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WizardHawk

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You’re point? Your guys programs hit the toilet because you had 1 P5 caliber QB recruit in a 5 year stretch.
He's trying pretty desperately to either bring up WSU to the Ducks level around the 2014/2015ish era, or bring the ducks in line with WSU. Either way it's amusing so keep up the good work. :thumb:
 

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Pac-12 football preview: Ranking the 2019 schedules
By JON WILNER | [email protected] | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: January 31, 2019 at 9:24 am | UPDATED: January 31, 2019 at 5:35 pm

Pac-12 football early look for 2019: Ranking the schedules

12. Utah
Non-conference lineup: at Brigham Young, vs. Northern Illinois, vs. Illinois State
Toughest stretch: Oct. 19 vs. Arizona State, Oct. 26 vs. Cal, Nov. 2 at Washington
Misses: Stanford and Oregon
Comment: Utes benefit from the switch in cross-division rotations, dodging two North heavyweights. They took the arduous road to the South title last season. In 2019, the path is greased. That said, the non-conference lineup will be an issue if they sneak into the playoff conversation.

11. Arizona
Non-conference lineup: at Hawaii, vs, Northern Arizona, vs. Texas Tech
Toughest stretch: Oct. 12 vs. Washington, Oct. 19 at USC, Oct. 26 at Stanford
Misses: Washington State and Cal
Comment: Nice to see a Power Five opponent back on the schedule (first time since 2012). Combine the non-conference dates with UCLA and Colorado as the openers for Pac-12 play, and the Wildcats could be 5-0 when Washington pays a visit.

10. Arizona State
Non-conference lineup: vs. Kent State, vs. Sacramento State, at Michigan State
Toughest stretch: Oct. 12 vs. Washington State, Oct. 19 at Utah, Oct. 26 at UCLA
Misses: Stanford and Washington
Comment: Sun Devils get a break this year after the grueling ’18 lineup. In addition to what’s shown above, their only road trip in the final month is Oregon State. If they’re in the South race when November arrives — and that could require a win in Salt Lake City — the schedule tilts in their favor.

9. Washington
Non-conference lineup: vs. Eastern Washington, vs. Hawaii, at Brigham Young
Toughest stretch: Sept. 21 at BYU, Sept. 28 vs. USC, Oct. 5 at Stanford, Oct. 12 at Arizona, Oct. 19 vs Oregon
Misses: UCLA and Arizona State
Comment: Swap out one game (Hawaii on, Auburn off), and the schedule feels completely different. The five-week stretch ending with Oregon will shape the season, for November is mostly manageable. Not shown but noteworthy: A Week Two visit from Cal.

8. Washington State
Non-conference lineup: vs. New Mexico State, vs. Northern Colorado, at Houston
Toughest stretch: Nov. 29 at Washington. That is enough. That is all.
Misses: USC and Arizona
Comment: The Cougars don’t face any dastardly stretches, don’t play back-to-back roadies and don’t have any Thursday/Friday conference games. But their ceiling is limited if they can’t win the Apple Cup, unless they’re unbeaten when they head across the state.

7. Oregon State
Non-conference lineup: vs. Oklahoma State, at Hawaii, vs. Cal Poly
Toughest stretch: Nov. 8 vs. Washington, Nov. 16 vs. Arizona State, Nov. 23 at Washington State, Nov. 30 at Oregon
Misses: Colorado and USC
Comment: Nice to see a Power Five opponent visiting Corvallis, and the Beavers return the date to open the 2020 season. Their toughest games are at home (Stanford, Utah, Washington) or a short drive down the highway. As was the case in ’18, November is unforgiving.

6. Cal
Non-conference lineup: vs. UC Davis, vs. North Texas, at Mississippi
Toughest stretch: Sept. 21 at Ole Miss, Sept. 27 vs. Arizona State, Oct. 5 at Oregon
Misses: Arizona and Colorado
Comment: Bears have a difficult November (Stanford, WSU and the L.A. schools), but I selected the late-Sept. stretch as their toughest because of the long trip to Oxford, followed by a Friday date and the roadie to Autzen. Also, don’t sleep on North Texas, which won nine games last year.

5. Colorado
Non-conference lineup: vs. Colorado State (Denver), vs. Nebraska, vs. Air Force
Toughest stretch: Oct. 11 at Oregon, Oct. 19 at Washington State, Oct. 25 vs USC
Misses: Oregon State and Cal
Comment: Not sure what to make of the non-conference portion — it could prove sneaky-tough or pleasantly soft (depending largely on Nebraska’s state of existence). For anyone else, missing Oregon State would be viewed as a disadvantage. For the Buffs, it means no nightmares.

4. Oregon
Non-conference lineup: vs. Auburn (Arlington), vs. Nevada, vs Montana
Toughest stretch: Oct. 19 at Washington, Oct. 26 vs. Washington State, Nov. 2 at USC
Misses: UCLA and Utah
Comment: The Ducks take the assignment UW had last year, opening in a non-neutral site against Auburn. (One key difference: The Tigers will have a new quarterback.) Otherwise, it’s not a soul-crushing schedule: No back-to-back roadies, two well-placed byes and Colorado at home as the Friday night date.

3. UCLA
Non-conference lineup: at Cincinnati, vs. San Diego State, vs. Oklahoma
Toughest stretch: Nov. 16 at Utah, Nov. 23 at USC, Nov. 30 vs. Cal
Misses: Washington and Oregon
Comment: The Bruins have a favorable cross-division schedule, missing two teams they want to miss, but it’s more than offset by the opening three weeks. Cincinnati was 11-2 last season, and the Sooners are the Sooners. When SDSU is your most manageable non-conference game, by far, the lineup is just this side of brutal.

2. USC
Non-conference lineup: vs. Fresno State, at Brigham Young, at Notre Dame
Toughest stretch: Sept. 7 vs. Stanford, Sept. 14 at BYU, Sept. 20 vs. Utah, Sept. 28 at Washington
Misses: Washington State and Oregon State
Comment: The Huskies and Ducks are back on the schedule, which makes for choice viewing but pushes the degree-of-difficulty well past daunting. And the schedule tilts heavily to September, which raises the specter of a rough start … and mid-season coaching change.

1. Stanford
Non-conference lineup: vs. Northwestern, at UCF, vs. Notre Dame
Toughest stretch: Aug. 31: vs. Northwestern, Sept. 7 at USC, Sept. 14 at UCF, Sept. 21 vs. Oregon
Misses: Arizona State and Utah
Comment: If not for the misses (especially Utah), this would qualify as perhaps the toughest schedule for any Pac-12 team in the division era. Put it like this: Stanford’s ‘easiest’ non-conference opponent is a nine-game, Big Ten division winner that beat Utah in the Holiday Bowl (and beat Stanford in the 2015 opener).
 

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This is why I still like UW and even WSU's chances in the North despite Shaw's track record and Oregon having Herbert back again as well as all of the losses on defense plus Gaskin for UW. Degree of difficulty is vastly different for several teams this year.

Fun fact: Herbert is 4-8 in road games as a starter. They play at UW, USC, Stanford, and ASU, plus that 'neutral' site game vs Auburn.

And as Wilner pointed out, Stanford's schedule out of the gate is about as brutal as I've ever seen.

Utah again has it setup for a run at the south title while USC has to make a massive leap forward to avoid another disappointing season. Zona should be able to keep the pressure up on Utah though.
 

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7. Oregon State
Non-conference lineup:
vs. Oklahoma State, at Hawaii, vs. Cal Poly
Toughest stretch: Nov. 8 vs. Washington, Nov. 16 vs. Arizona State, Nov. 23 at Washington State, Nov. 30 at Oregon
Misses: Colorado and USC
Comment:
Nice to see a Power Five opponent visiting Corvallis, and the Beavers return the date to open the 2020 season. Their toughest games are at home (Stanford, Utah, Washington) or a short drive down the highway. As was the case in ’18, November is unforgiving.




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This is why I still like UW and even WSU's chances in the North despite Shaw's track record and Oregon having Herbert back again as well as all of the losses on defense plus Gaskin for UW. Degree of difficulty is vastly different for several teams this year.

Fun fact: Herbert is 4-8 in road games as a starter. They play at UW, USC, Stanford, and ASU, plus that 'neutral' site game vs Auburn.

And as Wilner pointed out, Stanford's schedule out of the gate is about as brutal as I've ever seen.

Utah again has it setup for a run at the south title while USC has to make a massive leap forward to avoid another disappointing season. Zona should be able to keep the pressure up on Utah though.

It is really all about our QB. I will put our returning offense (outside QB) against any offensive talent outside of anyone not named USC. Our defense only loses Pueller and the 2017 defense was better once he got hurt. Our Achilles heal will always be Leach’s inability to adapt his offense against Lake. With an 8 man coverage and rain or snow you don’t throw it 50 times but 2nd place is better than Oregon I suppose.
 

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It is really all about our QB. I will put our returning offense (outside QB) against any offensive talent outside of anyone not named USC. Our defense only loses Pueller and the 2017 defense was better once he got hurt. Our Achilles heal will always be Leach’s inability to adapt his offense against Lake. With an 8 man coverage and rain or snow you don’t throw it 50 times but 2nd place is better than Oregon I suppose.
Both Washington schools have a clearer path, but nothing in this crazy fucked up league is ever written in stone.
 

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Both Washington schools have a clearer path, but nothing in this crazy fucked up league is ever written in stone.

True, but I don’t sweat the South, Stanford or either Oregon schools. Cal has me nervous and at this point I’ve given up on the Apple Cup. I’ll watch but I’ve gotten to the point where my bets aren’t overly fuckered up for myself.
 

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True, but I don’t sweat the South, Stanford or either Oregon schools. Cal has me nervous and at this point I’ve given up on the Apple Cup. I’ll watch but I’ve gotten to the point where my bets aren’t overly fuckered up for myself.
Oregon has to seriously improve their defense, especially on the road, and they have an unfavorable record, but they can't be dismissed. Cal will trip up a few teams, but enough to challenge for the north? Not likely. Stanford

The problem with really picking anyone is most of these teams are capable of tripping up someone and no one knows who will end up on the wrong end of it.
 

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Well at least Mark Rypien has more championships than Jared Goff
 

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Best 2019 Pac-12 conference games: Oregon vs. Washington sure to be another big one

1. Oregon at Washington - October 19 - One of the best games of 2018 reignited the engine of what might be the Pac-12’s best rivalry with the Ducks beating the Huskies in overtime in Eugene. There’s no love lost between these two and there is sure to be a ton of build up to this one with Oregon emerging as the preseason Pac-12 favorite over 2018 champ Washington.

2. Utah at Washington - November 2 - A rematch of the 2018 Pac-12 Championship Game could be a preview of the 2019 Pac-12 Championship Game. Three of the last four in the series have gone down to the wire with the Huskies pulling out the win.

3. Oregon at Stanford - September 21 - The Ducks met up for an unbelievable thriller in Autzen in September of last year and they lock horns early in the season again, this time in Palo Alto in what will assuredly have major implications in the race for the Pac-12 North. Justin Herbert vs. K.J. Costello could be the best Pac-12 QB showdown of the year.

4. Washington at Stanford - October 5 - The Cardinal and Huskies have won the North the past four years and could easily be the case again in 2019. A massive divisional showdown between two of the Pac-12’s best coaches sandwiched between each team’s showdown with Oregon. Tune in for this one.

5. Washington State at Washington - November 29 - We’re due for a classic Apple Cup with Chris Petersen rolling at Washington Mike Leach rolling at WSU, right? Could this be the year with Washington rebuilding/reloading and WSU doing a mini-rebuild/reload?

6. Utah at USC - September 20 - This game has decided the South in recent years and it feels like it probably will again. The Utes took care of the Trojans in Salt Lake City last year, but the home team has won this match-up six times in a row, so the Utes face a stiff challenge, even against USC team that’s trying to pick itself back up early in the season.

7. Washington State at Oregon - October 26 - The Cougars have the Ducks’ number, winning four straight and will likely head into Eugene with a chip on their shoulder as North underdogs again. The Cougar air raid against Justin Herbert and the Ducks in Autzen as the season starts to head into the second half should be must-see T.V.

8. Stanford at Washington State - November 16 - The Cardinal and Cougars put on a show in Palo Alto last year in a game that put the Cougars in control of the North down the stretch. The two teams who could easily sneak up on North favorites Oregon and Washington meet in Pullman this year in what could be another high-scoring shootout.

9. Oregon at USC - November 2 - The Ducks are preseason darlings and the Trojans preseason garbage, but never count out the Trojans, especially with the Ducks coming to The Coliseum. This could end up sneaking into being a major late-season showdown if the Trojans put it together.

10. Washington State at Utah - September 28 - This game in Pullman last year was quietly one of the season’s best games and should have major division race implications again as the Utes try to get revenge on the Cougars for pulling off a miracle against them in 2018.

11. USC at Washington - September 28 - The Huskies and Trojans have played just twice since 2012 and haven’t met up since 2016 when the Trojans gave the CFP-bound Huskies their only loss of the regular season. This one should be fun, even if the Trojans aren’t completely fulfilling their potential.

12. Stanford at USC - September 7 - The semi-annual North/South showdown in LA that gives one of these teams early-season momentum and temporarily buries the other. This game has a special place in the hearts of all true Pac-12 fans.
 

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Oregon has to seriously improve their defense, especially on the road, and they have an unfavorable record, but they can't be dismissed. Cal will trip up a few teams, but enough to challenge for the north? Not likely. Stanford

The problem with really picking anyone is most of these teams are capable of tripping up someone and no one knows who will end up on the wrong end of it.

Well yes Oregon does and why I don’t sweat them and I do Cal. Defensive coaches are the only real concern for us unless we totally piss a game away with turnovers or penalties like we did with USC or Arizona. A defensive minded coach will almost always beat Leach because he doesn’t adjust. Arizona and USC win because we melt down and give them the game.
 
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