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wazzu31

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Which tiebreaker are you ahead in exactly? UW has one more conf win. That's a fact. They are alone in first place. That too is a fact. Same logic you used last year when the cougs took a later bye and had a half game lead with the same number of conf losses.

Stanford, WSU, and UW are in the same boat. All have 1 conf loss and all have yet to play each other. Oregon now is sitting back and hoping the 3 each trade losses so they are back in it again.

Tie breakers as of right now is division losses, it goes conference losses, division losses the overall losses. We are firmly in control of the North. But like I said after the Wyoming game, for the third straight year the winner of the north will be decided at our annual loss at the Apple Cup.
 

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Tie breakers as of right now is division losses, it goes conference losses, division losses the overall losses. We are firmly in control of the North. But like I said after the Wyoming game, for the third straight year the winner of the north will be decided at our annual loss at the Apple Cup.
I guess that's wazzu math. 4-1 > 3-1. And it's the same math you used last year to attempt to argue WSU was in first place when their bye was later. So don't even try arguing lol. It's not hard to go find that shit.
 

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I guess that's wazzu math. 4-1 > 3-1. And it's the same math you used last year to attempt to argue WSU was in first place when their bye was later. So don't even try arguing lol. It's not hard to go find that shit.

Obviously 4-1 is better than 3-1, I understand math but we are in control of the Pac 12 North and you guys are not. It’s rather simple, not saying we will win because Leach doesn’t beat Petersen.
 

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Obviously 4-1 is better than 3-1, I understand math but we are in control of the Pac 12 North and you guys are not. It’s rather simple, not saying we will win because Leach doesn’t beat Petersen.
So if 4-1 is better than 3-1 exactly how are you in control? :L

We have one less chance to lose a game than you do. Same with Stanford. That's a pure fact.

All 3 teams with 1 conf loss in the North have yet to play each other. That too is a fact.
And both have one at home and one on the road. Again, those pesky details.
All 3 entirely control their own fate. That again is also a fact. If any of the 3 wins both they take the North.

So having one less chance to lose a game is a slight edge to an otherwise tie.

Next.
 

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None of the offshore or domestic books are publicly touching the USC/ASU game this week yet. Either one have questionable players or some other issue?

Rest of the lines are out -
Utah -10 at UCLA on Friday
Beavs +23.5 at Buffs
Cougs +3.5 at Ferd
UW -10.5 at Cal
Ducks +20.5 at Zona

Some tempting bets on the board so far.
 

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So if 4-1 is better than 3-1 exactly how are you in control? :L

We have one less chance to lose a game than you do. Same with Stanford. That's a pure fact.

All 3 teams with 1 conf loss in the North have yet to play each other. That too is a fact.
And both have one at home and one on the road. Again, those pesky details.
All 3 entirely control their own fate. That again is also a fact. If any of the 3 wins both they take the North.

So having one less chance to lose a game is a slight edge to an otherwise tie.

Next.

Fair and factual point, I stand corrected as for some reason I already chalked you guys having a loss to Stanford. So my bad, let me have this moment. Either way, the AC for the 3rd straight year will determine the North.
 

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Thats not the oregon arizona line.
 

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Thats not the oregon arizona line.
Seriously, if you are saying that won't be the line, then that is almost certainly correct.

I doubt anyone is actually taking bets on that line and it certainly isn't the first time we've seen weird initial offerings that were way out of whack.

If you can find a book actually offering it, I'd hit that shit for whatever their early max bet is.
 

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Seriously, if you are saying that won't be the line, then that is almost certainly correct.

I doubt anyone is actually taking bets on that line and it certainly isn't the first time we've seen weird initial offerings that were way out of whack.

If you can find a book actually offering it, I'd hit that shit for whatever their early max bet is.
the same Twitter that posted that just a few hours later posted the game had no line
 

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I wonder if the post time of 4:20 had anything to do with it
 

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the same Twitter that posted that just a few hours later posted the game had no line
The tweet you are talking about was not what I posted. I gave you the actual live vegasinsider listing. There are dozens more that also have that. I worked in gaming for a long time and have a dozen book index sites I monitor and all of them had that. Again, those are just indexes. Books may, or may not use them or post their own. As of right now I highly doubt anyone is using that line.

Wouldn't be surprised if they simply reversed the +/- or had another clerical error.

I would expect an updated/live line to be in sometime today unless there is an injury I'm not aware of. Those can delay lines into mid week.

It was still funny though.
 

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Updated line is now out. Oregon -9
 

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None of the offshore or domestic books are publicly touching the USC/ASU game this week yet. Either one have questionable players or some other issue?

Rest of the lines are out -
Utah -10 at UCLA on Friday
Beavs +23.5 at Buffs
Cougs +3.5 at Ferd
UW -10.5 at Cal
Ducks +20.5 at Zona

Some tempting bets on the board so far.

I can't really blame them for not touching the USC/AzSt yet.

Heck, I'm never sure which USC team is gonna "show up" every week either. :noidea: :tsk:
 

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Not an update. Thats the legit opening line.
I'm not going to take the time to teach you how the vegas lines work. It's just enough to know you are clueless.
 

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I'm not going to take the time to teach you how the vegas lines work. It's just enough to know you are clueless.
opening line is opening line. Opening line, first actual line. opening line, actually taking bets at this line. Whatever your 20 point index was was never legit and no bets were taken at it because it wasnt actually the game line. the only thing you can say was updated was No line to 9.
 

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opening line is opening line. Opening line, first actual line. opening line, actually taking bets at this line. Whatever your 20 point index was was never legit and no bets were taken at it because it wasnt actually the game line. the only thing you can say was updated was No line to 9.
Someone's cranky as fuck today aren't they? :lol:

Already explained what happened, but for some reason you are way over the top concerned with the looks of that and I find that quite amusing.
 
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