Overrated, Overpaid OLB Threatening Physical Harm To Cooley's For Cooley's Criticism Of RGIII

[Sharkinva]

Cooley is a douchebag.

Why is that?? Because he is willing to publicly come out and say what most sane individuals could see from a mile away? Griffin was tolerated because he was the owners pet. But after he threw every one short of the water boy under the bus at one time or another, you cant really think he was beloved in the locker room.

 

[JonBlaze]

Just drop it man. Bob is gone. I actually hope Denver does sign him. He would be walking into a some what complete team with no excuses. Cooley is, was and will always be more of a Redskin than Griffin ever was.

Drop it? I didn't start this topic. It's national trending news. I just putting my comments in like you and everyone else gets to. It's a message board. Why don't you ignore the Bob threads if it bothers you that much.

 

[Sharkinva]

Drop it? I didn't start this topic. It's national trending news. I just putting my comments in like you and everyone else gets to. It's a message board. Why don't you ignore the Bob threads if it bothers you that much.

The topic bothers me not one bit because he is finally gone which is the best thing for this team since Riggins. I just find it funny that people are STILL defending him.

 

[JonBlaze]

That was definitely a revelation, but, depending on the circumstances, I don't think you always need for someone to come up and say something directly. One shining example of this was what the o-line thought of Jeff George, which culminated in that one play where he got knocked to the ground and every o-lineman walked away from him. No words needed there. Same with Robert. He put him o-line in impossible situations at times by doing things like rolling into pressure, taking seven step drops on a play designed for a five step drop and getting sacked. Couple that with blaming other teammates and you get a pretty clear picture of how others viewed him.

I watched a game where every OL walked by Alf who got tackled and not one person helped him up. Alf is generally perceived as a well liked guy right? I think some people just see what they want to see. Cooley admits basically he made up all this shit based on his 1 year of observation. A year where RG3 was probably a lot more immature and cocky than he is now.

I don't doubt there are people on the team who felt exactly as Cooley said. But he started this by making like it was fact and that everyone hated RG3. Now as guys like Niles Paul, Clark, RJF, Pot Roast and Rak come out and call bullshit he starts backtracking a bit.

People will believe what they want. Like Shark will take what Cooley says and use it to reinforce his opinion and I'll take it with a bit more grain of salt. In the end no one knows the truth and the truth is probably that both sides are right. RG3 almost certainly had teammates that loved him and others that hated him.

 

[JonBlaze]

The topic bothers me not one bit because he is finally gone which is the best thing for this team since Riggins. I just find it funny that people are STILL defending him.

Please quote my defense of RG3 in this thread. I'll be waiting.

 

[Sharkinva]

Please quote my defense of RG3 in this thread. I'll be waiting.

When you start to dislike a true Redskin because he had a negative opinion of Bob, I kind of see that as defending Bob. Cooley turned down potential job opportunities because he ONLY wanted to play for this team... not once bit twice. He has NEVER thrown a team mate, or a coach under the bus. And gave his honest opinion. And aside from Don Warren, up to this point has been the best TE this team has ever seen. Yet you dislike his opinion because he came out and said he thinks RG3 wasnt actually liked?? And you dont think thats more defending Bob than anything??

 

[redskinsfan]

I watched a game where every OL walked by Alf who got tackled and not one person helped him up. Alf is generally perceived as a well liked guy right? I think some people just see what they want to see. Cooley admits basically he made up all this shit based on his 1 year of observation. A year where RG3 was probably a lot more immature and cocky than he is now.

I don't doubt there are people on the team who felt exactly as Cooley said. But he started this by making like it was fact and that everyone hated RG3. Now as guys like Niles Paul, Clark, RJF, Pot Roast and Rak come out and call bullshit he starts backtracking a bit.

People will believe what they want. Like Shark will take what Cooley says and use it to reinforce his opinion and I'll take it with a bit more grain of salt. In the end no one knows the truth and the truth is probably that both sides are right. RG3 almost certainly had teammates that loved him and others that hated him.

Cooley didn't backtrack on anything other than the b**** comment he made. I didn't keep track of how many times people did or didn't help Alf up, but you're missing the point: the reason why o-linemen didn't help up Jeff George was because he was a jackass. The fact that they walked away from him that instance was simply the cherry on top of everything. While Cooley conceded that he didn't have direct evidence of how others thought of Bob, it's clear from other reports how his teammates felt about him. Cooley was simply articulating what's pretty obvious.

 

[JonBlaze]

When you start to dislike a true Redskin because he had a negative opinion of Bob, I kind of see that as defending Bob. Cooley turned down potential job opportunities because he ONLY wanted to play for this team... not once bit twice. He has NEVER thrown a team mate, or a coach under the bus. And gave his honest opinion. And aside from Don Warren, up to this point has been the best TE this team has ever seen. Yet you dislike his opinion because he came out and said he thinks RG3 wasnt actually liked?? And you dont think thats more defending Bob than anything??

My opinion of Cooley started before he criticized RG3. Or is it only ok if you have an opinion not based on facts?

 

[JonBlaze]

Cooley didn't backtrack on anything other than the b**** comment he made. I didn't keep track of how many times people did or didn't help Alf up, but you're missing the point: the reason why o-linemen didn't help up Jeff George was because he was a jackass. The fact that they walked away from him that instance was simply the cherry on top of everything. While Cooley conceded that he didn't have direct evidence of how others thought of Bob, it's clear from other reports how his teammates felt about him. Cooley was simply articulating what's pretty obvious.

Maybe we have different definitions of backtracking then. Coming out hard like he knows for 100% about something one day and then changing your tune to saying it's just what I perceive the next. To me, that's backtracking 101.

Here's another former Redskin opinion

 

[redskinsfan]

Maybe we have different definitions of backtracking then. Coming out hard like he knows for 100% about something one day and then changing your tune to saying it's just what I perceive the next. To me, that's backtracking 101.

Here's another former Redskin opinion

You don't seem to get the fact that you don't need direct evidence to reach a conclusion such as the fact that Bob's teammates didn't like him. Cooley simply clarified that the evidence he had wasn't direct proof but that which he infer from reactions of o-linemen under specific circumstances. Did you hear any o-linemen saying that they didn't like Jeff George? But will anyone dispute the fact that they did?

 

[JonBlaze]

I admitted that there most definitely some teammates that didn't like him. Just like there were most definitely some that loved him. My problem is Cooley speaking for everyone like it's just 100% fact. There's a ton of guys in that locker room. To expect all of them to get along is ridiculous. For Cooley to speak for all of them is just as ridiculous.

 

[redskinsfan]

Dude, then you're blind. Yes, some guys might've loved him. But there's a certain contingent that didn't such as the o-line and WRs. And that's not something you need to hear from Cooley but from print and other media on this issue.

 

[JonBlaze]

Niles Paul, who is a TE (basically a WR and OL in one eh?) and would be far more dialed in to the current locker room than Cooley feels differently.

Former teammates rip Chris Cooley for RG3 comments

Now Paul is just speaking his opinion but I'm more likely to believe him than Cooley at this point. But as has been said and posted, let's move on. Bob is gone. Cooley got his hits. Go Skins.

 

[ehb5]

Please quote my defense of RG3 in this thread. I'll be waiting.

No man how dare you say what you did. If you don't declare rg3 the antichrist some people on here take it to mean you love him and hate kirk. It's totally logical and super fun for everybody who won't verbally crucify him.

 

[j_y19]

Cooley is a douchebag.

And you know this how?

 

[Sharkinva]

I will believe Cooley was wrong when guys like Garcon, Jackson, Reed, Morris, Williams or maybe the coaches come out and say...

We had no issue with Griffin and his constant blame shifting.

Until then, you got to give what Cooley has said, some measure of credibility.

 

[Sportster 72]

You didn't think Cooley was going to name players names. At the same time he is around the team more than most. I think Ricky Jean's point was "it is over, lets move on."

 

[Breed]

LOL @ I don't sack no mo.

I was dead set against the trade for Griffin. Having said that by the time the Baltimore game rolled around I was all in.

My opinion of Griffin changed when:
Cooley also mentioned Griffin’s comments to members of the media after Cousins beat the Browns in late 2012, when Griffin was held out because of injury. ” I was not happy with the decision,” Griffin said then, even though the Redskins had won the game. “At the end of the day, that’s the decision they went with. I respect that, but it doesn’t mean I necessarily have to like it.” Griffin also said that it was a “great business trip,” and that the win was “huge” for the Redskins, but Cooley said players looked askance at his comments.

Dude he helped the team win. What was up your arse to act like that.

10-6 in 2012 - Cousins engineered the tie that allowed Crawfords punt return to set up the winning field goal. Cousins let the victory over Cleveland. Alf had 200 yards rushing and 3 TDs vs Dallas at the end of the year so I think Griffin got a little too much credit for that year.

Now I am done, don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

Lets see. Player practices all week as is if he's gonna start this upcoming Sunday. Just like he has for the past 13 weeks........check.

The night before the game player is told not only is he not starting, he's not even gonna dress for the game as he's been deactivated. Player is fuckin pissed.......check

Game is over and player is still clearly peeved that he didn't get to play, even though he believed he could play. Player was seen throughout the game encouraging teammates and pow wowing with Off Co and QB who did start.......check

At the end of the day player is quoted saying..................“We’re in first place in our division now. It was a great business trip for us,” he said. “Although I was not happy with the decision, I got healthier by not playing, and we won the game and put ourselves in position to control our destiny. That’s a huge thing.” Check, mircophone check, microphone mothafuckin check.

There wasn't anything in that article for anyone, fan or player, to get upset at Griffin about. His reactions/responses in the article were completely within reason. Though I could see some fans getting upset. Some fans are crazy though and could get upset at some stupid shit like the ski not being blue enough.

As for bringing up players being upset over it. That's a little different and I'd personally like to know which players and I'd like to ask them why they were upset. Cause this was some completely unnecessary shit for Cooley to even bring up. Its serves no purpose whatsoever other than trying to create drama where there was none. Or to throw some unnecessary shade on Griffin as he exits stage left . Either way, bringing this shit up at this point and time was a straight bitch move by Cooley and he lost some cool points today.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I'm not sure why there's so much hate for Cooley on this issue. What he's saying is nothing new or isn't what's already been reported from other sources. RGIII put the o-line in some impossible positions at times and, on at least certain occasions, publicly threw his teammates under the bus. Santana Moss took exception to him doing so during the 2013 season, Santana Moss takes exception to Griffin’s failure to take blame, and a Yahoo article took issue with him doing that the next season. RG3 throws Redskins teammates under bus after his own bad game There are, of course, other instances of this type of conduct, but these are simply illustrative of what Robert brought -- or didn't bring -- to the table.

If you've ever followed Cooley's show, you know he's a straight shooter and gives great film breakdowns that you won't generally hear on other media outlets.

And Ryan Clark? Please.

Overall I like Ryan Clark on ESPN and believe that he does a good job. However - I laugh whenever he recants his time during the 2014 season with the Redskins. I have heard him talk about that time & rip on Gruden & others. Excuse me? He was a complete joke in the secondary for that time - one of the worst ever due to his age & declining skills. He needs to keep his mouth shut about that time.

 

[Sportster 72]

Lets see. Player practices all week as is if he's gonna start this upcoming Sunday. Just like he has for the past 13 weeks........check.

The night before the game player is told not only is he not starting, he's not even gonna dress for the game as he's been deactivated. Player is fuckin pissed.......check

Game is over and player is still clearly peeved that he didn't get to play, even though he believed he could play. Player was seen throughout the game encouraging teammates and pow wowing with Off Co and QB who did start.......check

At the end of the day player is quoted saying..................“We’re in first place in our division now. It was a great business trip for us,” he said. “Although I was not happy with the decision, I got healthier by not playing, and we won the game and put ourselves in position to control our destiny. That’s a huge thing.” Check, mircophone check, microphone mothafuckin check.

There wasn't anything in that article for anyone, fan or player, to get upset at Griffin about. His reactions/responses in the article were completely within reason. Though I could see some fans getting upset. Some fans are crazy though and could get upset at some stupid shit like the ski not being blue enough.

As for bringing up players being upset over it. That's a little different and I'd personally like to know which players and I'd like to ask them why they were upset. Cause this was some completely unnecessary shit for Cooley to even bring up. Its serves no purpose whatsoever other than trying to create drama where there was none. Or to throw some unnecessary shade on Griffin as he exits stage left . Either way, bringing this shit up at this point and time was a straight bitch move by Cooley and he lost some cool points today.

Ummm ... I watched the interview. Robert did not respond the way I thought he would have and I didn't like it. I am entitled to that view and don't plan on changing just as you are entitled to yours.

As for Cooley, I don't really care what he said. He only refreshed the memory of Robert after the Cleveland game when I read the article.

As I said, Griffin is no longer here and I am moving on. Best of luck to him wherever he goes.