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Yes exciting when the fastest guy on our team can't make it past the 12 so we are forced to take a knew on every ensuing kickoff

But they haven't been. Instead of just the return between the returns to the 20-30, we've been seeing more stops before the 20 (exciting for the defense), more big returns and TDs (exciting for the offense), and more touchbacks (safer for the players).

I think it's a win-win.
 

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But they haven't been. Instead of just the return between the returns to the 20-30, we've been seeing more stops before the 20 (exciting for the defense), more big returns and TDs (exciting for the offense), and more touchbacks (safer for the players).

I think it's a win-win.

defense is not exciting though. People want to see offense, they want to see the big play. This new rule will eventually eliminate it.


The returns we got today were to typical week 1 jitters that most teams will eventually work out.
 

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But they haven't been. Instead of just the return between the returns to the 20-30, we've been seeing more stops before the 20 (exciting for the defense), more big returns and TDs (exciting for the offense), and more touchbacks (safer for the players).

I think it's a win-win.


I think the big returns are more the kickoff team being caught offguard, unprepared and shocked that thier team can't find a dude to kick off who can hit the back of the end zone from the 40 now.
 

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I think the big returns are more the kickoff team being caught offguard, unprepared and shocked that thier team can't find a dude who can hit the back of rhe end zone now.

No, it's b/c the kicking team is rushing down deeper. So, every return becomes higher risk-reward for both sides. I'm pretty sure the special teams guys (many of whom barely have jobs) are doing everything they can to get down and make a play. The fact that so many guys are getting hit at the 12 or 17, or 10 is good evidence of that.

I'll bet there are more return TDs this season. Anyone want that action?
 

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No, it's b/c the kicking team is rushing down deeper. So, every return becomes higher risk-reward for both sides. I'm pretty sure the special teams guys (many of whom barely have jobs) are doing everything they can to get down and make a play. The fact that so many guys are getting hit at the 12 or 17, or 10 is good evidence of that.

I'll bet there are more return TDs this season. Anyone want that action?

Ummm yes.... I would bet lots of money against that. You can bump this at the end of the season if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt I am.


Don't see how this can improve that one bit. The touchdowns you have this week are a result of a short/uncertain training camp
 

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I think the number of kickoff returns was the element of surprise. When the games get down to crunch time and making the playoffs the coaches will tell these guy's not to take those chances.

The NFL is already talking about tweaking the new KO spot. One idea is instead of the kickers kicking the ball off of a tee they would kick it from a punting position. The other ideas is to make a touchback start at the 25 yard line instead of the 20.
 

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I think the number of kickoff returns was the element of surprise. When the games get down to crunch time and making the playoffs the coaches will tell these guy's not to take those chances.

The NFL is already talking about tweaking the new KO spot. One idea is instead of the kickers kicking the ball off of a tee they would kick it from a punting position. The other ideas is to make a touchback start at the 25 yard line instead of the 20.

That I wouldn't mind. Make touchbacks a neutral decision as opposed to a reward to the kicking team.
 

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No, it's b/c the kicking team is rushing down deeper. So, every return becomes higher risk-reward for both sides. I'm pretty sure the special teams guys (many of whom barely have jobs) are doing everything they can to get down and make a play. The fact that so many guys are getting hit at the 12 or 17, or 10 is good evidence of that.

I'll bet there are more return TDs this season. Anyone want that action?

I will because the teams will adjust. The Bills were kicking into the corners of the end zones and every time the Chiefs tried to return the ball they got squat. It will not take long before the coaches get nervous about guy's returning the ball 7-8 yards deep in the end zone.
 

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I will because the teams will adjust. The Bills were kicking into the corners of the end zones and every time the Chiefs tried to return the ball they got squat. It will not take long before the coaches get nervous about guy's returning the ball 7-8 yards deep in the end zone.

Agreed. Dion Lewis tried to return his first two kickoffs for the birds and got to the 10-12 both times. After that, he just took a knee the rest of the game.


Yea, the better guys will test the waters first but eventually most teams will play it conservative. Starting form the 10 hurts an offense big time.
 

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I will because the teams will adjust. The Bills were kicking into the corners of the end zones and every time the Chiefs tried to return the ball they got squat. It will not take long before the coaches get nervous about guy's returning the ball 7-8 yards deep in the end zone.

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