OT: Disney buys Lucasfilm, plans to release Star Wars episode VII

[Darkstone42]

On one hand, Rogue One was spectacular.

On the other, it sucks to have lost Carrie Fisher.

 

[juliansteed]

Apparently she was done shooting Episode 8. If that doesn't involve being killed off (and I'm guessing it won't) it will be interesting to see what happens in Episode 9. I could see them killing her off screen with her ship being blown up or something, but I wonder how that would impact the story.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

'Star Wars' Finally Gets a Ron Howard Movie — Should Fans Cheer?

Ron Howard was also in American Graffiti which was directed by none other than George Lucas.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Just saw it today.

It was entertaining but man is it watered down. Some things I found tough to ignore (spoilers):

- So we know nothing about Snoke. Who is he? How did he come to power? Why was he so powerful?

- Leia in Space? (I'll let it slide)

- So Rey just out of nowhere is the most powerful person in the galaxy? Last movie she takes out Kylo, this movie she gets the best of Luke, come on.

- Luke saw the gooid in Vader but calls it quits with Kylo?

- Bombs in space, lack of gravity (I'll let this one slide as well).

I dunno, none of the characters are all that me memorable.

 

[Comeds]

Just saw it today.

It was entertaining but man is it watered down. Some things I found tough to ignore (spoilers):

- So we know nothing about Snoke. Who is he? How did he come to power? Why was he so powerful?

- Leia in Space? (I'll let it slide)

- So Rey just out of nowhere is the most powerful person in the galaxy? Last movie she takes out Kylo, this movie she gets the best of Luke, come on.

- Luke saw the gooid in Vader but calls it quits with Kylo?

- Bombs in space, lack of gravity (I'll let this one slide as well).

I dunno, none of the characters are all that me memorable.

Halfway through around Leia in space and the terrible imo casino scene - I thought the movie was pretty awful. The second half seemed better to me so overall I liked it ok.

The bombs make sense because the destroyer was in between the bomber and the planet so the planets gravitational pull affected the bombs. Just kidding, I never thought of that in the theater.

I agree with you about Rey. Not sure why but I kind of like the three main young characters, maybe it's the actors. Not sure.

 

[RP-29]

Just saw it today.

It was entertaining but man is it watered down. Some things I found tough to ignore (spoilers):

- So we know nothing about Snoke. Who is he? How did he come to power? Why was he so powerful?

- Leia in Space? (I'll let it slide)

- So Rey just out of nowhere is the most powerful person in the galaxy? Last movie she takes out Kylo, this movie she gets the best of Luke, come on.

- Luke saw the gooid in Vader but calls it quits with Kylo?

- Bombs in space, lack of gravity (I'll let this one slide as well).

I dunno, none of the characters are all that me memorable.

Halfway through around Leia in space and the terrible imo casino scene - I thought the movie was pretty awful. The second half seemed better to me so overall I liked it ok.

The bombs make sense because the destroyer was in between the bomber and the planet so the planets gravitational pull affected the bombs. Just kidding, I never thought of that in the theater.

I agree with you about Rey. Not sure why but I kind of like the three main young characters, maybe it's the actors. Not sure.

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Overall, I think there's too much nitpicking on this movie. It seems like people are looking for excuses to not like it. Just about everything people have a problem with in 8 are also issues in 4-6.

RE Space bombs: Tie Bombers did the same thing when they were searching for the Falcon in an asteroid field. Who nitpicked that then?

RE Space Leia: my first reaction was "okay, that's dumb" but then I suspended disbelief by realizing this is a force-sensitive humanoid in a fantasy space galaxy, not an Earthling in our solar system. Different rules can apply.

I too would've liked more info on Snoke, but I'm betting Disney intentionally left out that information to make a satellite movie about him.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Spoiler

Overall, I think there's too much nitpicking on this movie. It seems like people are looking for excuses to not like it. Just about everything people have a problem with in 8 are also issues in 4-6.

RE Space bombs: Tie Bombers did the same thing when they were searching for the Falcon in an asteroid field. Who nitpicked that then?

RE Space Leia: my first reaction was "okay, that's dumb" but then I suspended disbelief by realizing this is a force-sensitive humanoid in a fantasy space galaxy, not an Earthling in our solar system. Different rules can apply.

I too would've liked more info on Snoke, but I'm betting Disney intentionally left out that information to make a satellite movie about him.

Yeah the two you mentioned was certainly me nitpicking. The others though are kind of sloppy/lazy.

 

[RP-29]

Yeah the two you mentioned was certainly me nitpicking. The others though are kind of sloppy/lazy.

I didn't mean to insinuate that it's just you nitpicking. I've read through comments in other threads on this site, other sites and fan reviews and a lot of people are tearing the movie apart for mostly little nitpicky things that often mirror holes in the beloved original trilogy. Kinda silly. ...and self-righteous. ...from a certain point of view.

 

[mattola]

Spoiler: Really real spoilers

Once I realized the director was from Xmen: apocalypse I feared for some laziness and over the top. Got both. Holy one liners and bad jokes. Not to mention that shirtless scene. But it's not a bad movie, no where good as rogue one and the force awakens (which is also no where near as good as rogue one). I couldn't stand phasma and am really glad that's over as well as the question of Rey's parents. Loved the yoda scene and expect Luke fully back as ghost Luke. 6/10

 

[davnlaguna]

Disney to release episode 10-12

 

[mattola]

Spoiler: Really real spoilers

Once I realized the director was from Xmen: apocalypse I feared for some laziness and over the top. Got both. Holy one liners and bad jokes. Not to mention that shirtless scene. But it's not a bad movie, no where good as rogue one and the force awakens (which is also no where near as good as rogue one). I couldn't stand phasma and am really glad that's over as well as the question of Rey's parents. Loved the yoda scene and expect Luke fully back as ghost Luke. 6/10

I went to bed even more annoyed. I went and saw t again this morning. I believed i over hyped myself and didn't focus truly on it. I am not happy with how they used Luke and I don't think mark Hamill is either. But it's a very good Star Wars movie but rogue one is better

 

[elocomotive]

...from a certain point of view.

Bonus points!

Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie outside the original 3. Tell me I'm wrong!

 

[RP-29]

Bonus points!

Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie outside the original 3. Tell me I'm wrong!

Rogue One is the only Star Wars movie I didn't get to see in the theater. I'm pretty bummed about that. The theater experience adds to the Star Wars experience like no other franchise.

 

[elocomotive]

Rogue One is the only Star Wars movie I didn't get to see in the theater. I'm pretty bummed about that. The theater experience adds to the Star Wars experience like no other franchise.

5 points, Gryffnforce!

 

[Darkstone42]

I loved The Last Jedi. I loved it for its thematic ambition, and I especially loved it for the nuanced acting performances (especially Mark Hamill's) which I thought sold that ambition and made it work.

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The opening battle set the stage and the theme brilliantly, introducing us to Poe's deepest flaw and the dangers of that flaw. Yeah, they blew up the Dreadnought, but forcing the heroes to struggle with the cost of their victory was, I thought, important, and something largely omitted in every other not-Rogue-One film in the saga. This is the first time the consequences even of a victory--and one achieved so heroically--were really dealt with in any detail and with any thought, and I appreciated that. I was also glad Poe was so slow to learn his lesson.

Which leads me to the next thing I loved. The protagonists made mistakes. And they were costly mistakes. Deeply costly mistakes. Introducing this fallibility makes their triumphs harder earned and more impactful, I think.

At first I was bothered by Luke thinking about killing Ben, but on further thought, his moment of indecision I think effectively illustrated the delicate balance someone with his power has to maintain: responsible for the safety and well-being of the universe, but responsible also to maintain an absolute morality. He faltered for just a moment, and that was enough--because of his power--to have disastrous widespread consequences.

And that's why I'm not bothered at all by his character. He'd never had to grapple with that degree of failure. He'd screwed up in the past, but he'd never been the cause of evil. Now he was, and that had to be agonizing to him. And though he was old and experienced, his wisdom was not absolute, and when he learned he was allowed to screw up and to learn from screwing up, he was finally able to move forward to set things in motion to fix his mistake.

And while Hamill might not like how they wrote his character, he acted the crap out of that script. He was brilliant. His redemption was gradual, reluctant, and natural. He was immersive, and that's not common in Star Wars. The universe immerses you, but the characters seldom do, and he did. And on top of that acting, I thought the triangle between him, Rey, and Kylo was used to great effect alongside Hamill's performance.

Which brings me to Rey and Kylo specifically. Connecting and mirroring them showed how similar they are. They're similarly motivated, have the same pitfalls, and each has a strong and convicted will. Just one choice differentiates them, and each shows what the other could have become--or could yet become--if something had gone differently. This was my favorite part of the Clone Wars series, using Anakin's apprentice to show what Anakin could have become by leaving the Jedi Order on different terms, rather than becoming Vader, and I thought they did a decent job doing the same thing much faster in The Last Jedi.

The film was also visually arresting, especially the battle on the salt world and--my personal favorite--the ten seconds of silence to punctuate Holdo--who I thought was an awesome character--crashing through the command ship at hyperspeed was breathtaking.

The fight with Snoke's guards had a beautifully brutal choreography, which was to me a welcome deviation from the usual. There was no grace. It was violent and desperate. And it being set off by Snoke dying largely as a consequence of his own arrogance was also something I appreciated.

I didn't especially like Leia in space--not because it didn't make sense, because I thought it did make sense that a Force-sensitive character would use the Force to save herself--because it just didn't look all that great, and it seemed unnecessary. I'm half-and-half on Rose saving Finn from crashing himself into the battering ram cannon, because I liked Rose's motivation to save him, but not Finn's motivation (or hair-brained attempt at execution) for his maneuver. I thought the Porg gag was overused.

And most of all, I wanted Luke's conviction to the Jedi needing to end to stand to his death. Because he was right. The Jedi do need to end. The Jedi way opened itself to the creation of the Sith, and it shuns the balance they claim to pursue. The rigidity and self-repression of the Jedi Order don't allow them to be as good as they could be, and opening themselves to connection and emotion and other sources of nuance would allow Force users to actually achieve that touted balance. I was disappointed when he announced Rey would be the next Jedi, because I liked Rey's potential to be something new entirely, since her character so far has seemed to be heading in that direction.

I still liked Rogue One better, because I deem it a genuine masterpiece which is unlikely to be topped, but The Last Jedi ranks high on my list. I'll need to see it again to determine exactly where.

 

[Comeds]

At first I thought Star Wars The Musical was a stupid idea, but now it's grown in me and I am glad they are moving forward with it.

 

[scoutyjones2]

That was an awful, bland movie with horrible acting. None of the characters you could care for or wish for/against. Kylo wren has to be the most snowflake evil character ever...ugg...

 

[puckhead]

Spoiler

to be clear, we still don't know who Rey's parents are, do we?
i figured was Kylo's twin, and they split them up again or something.

 

[mattola]

Holy fuck