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And even though they altered the timeline, you still have Wolverine who still remembers the 50 years the way it happened in the other movies. So bascially he could be asking the same questions then if you think about it.
 

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Oh yeah, and how is Professor X in his own body before sending Wolverine back into the past?

I know that he apparently threw his consciousness into another body before Jean destroyed him, but how did he get his body back after that? I guess there was some commentary from the Last Stand movie that says he put his consciousness into his comatose twin brother, but why did we never hear about him having a twin brother, and why is he also paralyzed? Is he like Joe Swanson from Family Guy, where anyone he becomes is always going to be handicapped?

I could go on and on.....
 

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And if Raven killed Trask back in 1973 causing the Sentinels to be deployed into action, then why didn't we see or hear about them in all the movies that take place after 1973?

How did Magneto and Raven both escape prison, and join back up, if they split ways back in the 70's?

Why is Quicksilver a teenager living in DC when Magneto wasn't even in the US back when he would have been born? How and where did he then meet his mother, and how did she wind up in DC?

:gaah:
 

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Jeez, IPW! Take it up with Fox :laugh3:

oh leave him be Johnny, I mean if you cant nitpick about a movie where humans have mutant powers that fight other humans that have mutant powers in a world that has aliens, and gods and people with superpowers then what fun is there in watching the movies.
 

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lol its no wonder you do not have a favourite movie IPW :D
 

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oh leave him be Johnny, I mean if you cant nitpick about a movie where humans have mutant powers that fight other humans that have mutant powers in a world that has aliens, and gods and people with superpowers then what fun is there in watching the movies.

Hey, even if you make up something, you at least have to be consistent with your storylines. Especially if you are promoting a series of movies that all exist in the same universe and co-mingle with one another.

Lazy writing is what it is I tell ya.
 

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lol its no wonder you do not have a favourite movie IPW :D

Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?

No, I mean is, you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass... No, wait. It's gotta be your bull.
 

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Yes, but if Wolverine never travels back into his younger body, the serum would still exist back in 1973.

If the serum exists, then why wouldn't it be used more, and in the other movies? The X-men could have used it as a weapon to stop other Mutants without fighting or any damage being done. Why did they fight so hard over that one kid in the Last Stand, when Hank already had a serum that did the same thing his blood did? Why couldn't they just have used the serum to stop Magneto and others before the final battle ever took place?

What about Rogue? Why couldn't they have let her use the serum to be a normal person and touch people? If they used the serum on her, then Magento would never have used her powers in the 1st movie to power his machine.

And if Charles traded his powers to be able to walk, then how was he walking AND using his powers in the Wolverine Origins movie?

And what about Magento? He showed that he could use metal to control the Sentinels in the movie, so why could he have done that in the other timeline as well? Why couldn't he create or use giant metal blades that could cut right through them?

I might be nitpicking, but there are so many holes and unansered questions.

well last stand sucked so there is NO explanation for that.

The serum wasnt a solution. Hank explained that, it just suppressed, its possible Hank just destroyed it and his files after this incident. I do imagine Charles didnt like to use it anymore after that and that he refused to use it on his own kind, he had a different set of morals and guidelines for that, violence was a last resort for him, he was always looking for a peaceful solution without changing or messing with the DNA. hes a very conflicted man

I havent seen the 2nd wolverine movie yet so I cant comment.

he used the rail car tracks and ran them through the skeletons of the sentienls as they were made of some super strong plastic in the future, they were infused with the DNA of raven so they could adapt and change powers, they had no metal in them, and even though they could get torn apart they could heal faster and not die. the other timeline sentinels were empowered with mutant powers and could adapt as they showed in the fighting.



Oh yeah, and how is Professor X in his own body before sending Wolverine back into the past?

I know that he apparently threw his consciousness into another body before Jean destroyed him, but how did he get his body back after that? I guess there was some commentary from the Last Stand movie that says he put his consciousness into his comatose twin brother, but why did we never hear about him having a twin brother, and why is he also paralyzed? Is he like Joe Swanson from Family Guy, where anyone he becomes is always going to be handicapped?

I could go on and on.....

was it a twin brother? did he just take over that body and maybe he looks different and his mind is so powerful everyone sees him as the professor we know :D I totally agree with this slip up however.

And if Raven killed Trask back in 1973 causing the Sentinels to be deployed into action, then why didn't we see or hear about them in all the movies that take place after 1973?

How did Magneto and Raven both escape prison, and join back up, if they split ways back in the 70's?

Why is Quicksilver a teenager living in DC when Magneto wasn't even in the US back when he would have been born? How and where did he then meet his mother, and how did she wind up in DC?

:gaah:

it may have been they took a really long time to get perfected to have the mutant powers for those future sentinels to be shown, the originals were taken offline after trask died in that timeline and mystique was captured at that point.

quicksilver origin is shown to have been Magnetos son so I can only think they are taking liberties with the timeline a bit to have a slightly older boy (or magneto is older than he looks or he just had some chikkachikkabowwow with him mom when he was a younger lad.

I dont think the points you have are huge plot holes and are more nitpicky but they are valid questions but not ones that would ruin the movie.

being your friend must be exhausting if this is how you look at all movies lol
 
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I dont think the points you have are huge plot holes and are more nitpicky but they are valid questions but not ones that would ruin the movie.

They are huge plot holes because the events and storylines are not the same from movie to movie when they should be, and subtle changes in one movie should reflect then in others.

Even if the serum Hank created only supressed mutant powers, then why not use it at all like I mentioned before? They could have used it to help other mutants live a semi-normal life and experience things, and they could have used it to temporally stop other Mutants in battle before serious harm or damge could occur. The serum itself would be a major game changer.

Mutants would be able to take it to hide from the Sentinels as well. Or at least untill the sentinels developed the ability to see that their grandchildren would be Mutants. Still don't know how that works?

All I'm saying is that the original Sentinels could be controlled by Magento in the movie, so why couldn't that happen again in the other timeline? Magento could have controlled them and stopped them before they had the time to develop and adapt. Even in the fighting scenes, you saw a Sentinel was missing an arm, so why couldn't Magneto create giant weapons made out of metal that could slice them up in pieces?

I don't think they are trying to say that Sentiels are impossible to destroy, and if they are, why create hundreds of them?
 

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They are huge plot holes because the events and storylines are not the same from movie to movie when they should be, and subtle changes in one movie should reflect then in others.

to you maybe not so to me, with my thoughts above I can work around those

Even if the serum Hank created only supressed mutant powers, then why not use it at all like I mentioned before? They could have used it to help other mutants live a semi-normal life and experience things, and they could have used it to temporally stop other Mutants in battle before serious harm or damge could occur. The serum itself would be a major game changer.

again I can say that hank just destroyed it knowing how bad it could be, maybe the next xmen will explain that, Im not sure why that is not a plausible option

Mutants would be able to take it to hide from the Sentinels as well. Or at least untill the sentinels developed the ability to see that their grandchildren would be Mutants. Still don't know how that works?

maybe hank was the first KILLED before he could make more serum and his notes taken, again we get none of that war background story and he is not shown in the future timeline

All I'm saying is that the original Sentinels could be controlled by Magento in the movie, so why couldn't that happen again in the other timeline? Magento could have controlled them and stopped them before they had the time to develop and adapt. Even in the fighting scenes, you saw a Sentinel was missing an arm, so why couldn't Magneto create giant weapons made out of metal that could slice them up in pieces?

they were not made of metal, not even the originals thats why he graphed the rail way tracks on them to control them, the future ones had mutant powers so they could adapt to him if he tried to do that to them as they were not metal either

I don't think they are trying to say that Sentiels are impossible to destroy, and if they are, why create hundreds of them?

there is a alot of mutants and humans and they wanted to get it done quicker, maybe they also started to develop AI and precreated at their "factory" to have their own species. I think a few sentinels could be controlled with enough mutants to give those mutants time to get away and the sentinels said fuck it lets send dozens to get er done

see above
 

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I don't know. Sounds like a lot of "what ifs" and "could have beens" to me, and I don't like it.

They tried to create a series of movies that all flow and gel with one another, but they have failed to address or explain why so many of the movies have scenes or events that would radically alter the timelines just as much as sending Wolvering back in time, but don't.

I can suspend belief, just not bullshit and shitty writng however.
 

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being your friend must be exhausting if this is how you look at all movies lol

That's easy to explain, I don't have any friends.
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I don't know. Sounds like a lot of "what ifs" and "could have beens" to me, and I don't like it.

They tried to create a series of movies that all flow and gel with one another, but they have failed to address or explain why so many of the movies have scenes or events that would radically alter the timelines just as much as sending Wolvering back in time, but don't.

I can suspend belief, just not bullshit and shitty writng however.

I See it as they created 2 movies that fixed a bad third movie from a different film maker :D
 

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You want to know what the serum Hank created is?

It's a very shitty plot contrivance to explain why Charles couldn't use his powers, while also saying thay everyone in the 60's and 70's was on drugs. It's also a way to complete a circle of life bullshit feel good story and get Logan to do for Charles what Charles did for Logan.

IT RUINED THE MOVIE FOR ME!!!!!
 

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One more thing about the serum.

It had the ability to not only suppress mutant powers, but it gave Charles the ability to walk again after being paralyzed by a bullet to the spine.

Why didn't Hank use that serum to help all the suffering people in the World who are also paralyzed? The medical companies and hospitals could carry it and charge people for weekly injections or what not just so they could make money, and people would be able to function and contribute again in life.

That's a win-win in my book, but NO, Hank would rather hang out in a run down mansion watching his hippy friend get high and whine about his life every day instead.

What a dick Hank is.
 
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