Official Raw thread

[anotheridiot]

I read that Raw will only be two hours to get tough enough on an hour earlier because the WWE is really vested in tough enough and viewership was terrible.

 

[anotheridiot]

Didnt get home til 10, so missed all of it, did catch this on the internet today

WWE Divas Wardrobe Malfunction On Live TV

I would consider a thong a malfunction though.

 

[iowajerms]

Things I think WWE is doing right

* Rollins still having the WWE Title and facing Lesnar
* Kevin Owens
* New Day as heel and Cesaro-Kidd as babyface.
* Sheamus being heel
* If Lesnar does not have a belt, make him attraction superstar (not every week)


Things I think WWE is doing wrong

* Total Divas being part of the live storyline. I get that it is popular among females, even those that don't watch wrestling. But Total Divas needs to take Raw/Smackdown/Main Event/NXT/PPVs/etc. storylines on there but keep Total Divas drama on Total Divas.

* John Cena not turning heel. He has so many opportunities the past few years. The only time I really think him being face this past year or two have been when he was vs Rusev. He might not cut the best promos, but he cuts great promos and they are most realistic.

 

[anotheridiot]

From what I have seen of the Total Divas, they were not really following the story line. When Brie and Nikki were "fighting", Brie being the personal slave and all, they were way off on the time span during the new divas show.

Right now part of the wrong with the divas is Vindictive Vinnie not wanting AJ to be the longest reigning womans champ, so he is letting nikki hold onto the belt instead of dropping it back to paige.

 

[wazzu31]

I've never seen NXT but what is the reason they are pushing Owens? He is just a dude you just want to flip the channel when he is involved in anything. Is it just the storyline with Cena and he was actually entertaining in NXT?

 

[anotheridiot]

I've never seen NXT but what is the reason they are pushing Owens? He is just a dude you just want to flip the channel when he is involved in anything. Is it just the storyline with Cena and he was actually entertaining in NXT?

I feel the same way. Owens has been stuck in the minors for 10 years while the shield, bryan, wyatt, and mr acrobat all graduated. Maybe they wanted someone the fans could hate more than Rollins.

 

[wazzu31]

Like I said I've never seen NXT so maybe it's cause the Cena storyline but doesn't even come off as I guy I'd want to boo, just flip the channel or go grab snack when he's on there.

 

[OregonDucks]

Did I read correctly that RAW is going back to 2 hours? Brilliant move for WWE. 3 hour RAW is killing viewership just like 3 hours killed Nitro.

Its just far too much television and not nearly enough talent or interesting storylines to fill it. That is to blame on the WWE management and creative for the last 10 years pushing Cena, Orton, Kane, Big Show, CM Punk, etc.

Seriously why in the HELL is Big Show still involved AT ALL in any sort of main event storyline? He and Kane have flip flopped from face to heel so many times I forget which they are when the camera shines on them.

Like someone mentioned above...Cena not heel is just exhausting. there is enough young guys who are climbing the ranks that Cena doesn't need to be face. In fact, Cena turning heel would be so refreshing the vocal males who boo him would mark the hell out of him, and he would probably become the status Brock was before WWE officially turned him face.

Start pushing the younger guys, make Cena heel. Turn Raw back to 2 hours and WWE might actually have enough momentum to make it a must watch show again.

 

[anotheridiot]

I read that vince was pissed that tough enough had bad ratings so they want to make it the third hour of raws time spot, but I thought they were gonna do it last monday. Really dont know if it makes sense or not, most of the girls already have their fake boobs. I know he has the network now, but I really dont see how he thinks people are gonna choose reality show wrestling on Tuesday night while Raw is been so boring.

 

[Duffman]

I don't where people are "reading" that Raw is going back to 2 hours but it's not true. If it was a website someone read it on the only credible on is PWInsider and given that they have no knowledge of this someone just made it up.

 

[Ewa PGH Fan]

I don't where people are "reading" that Raw is going back to 2 hours but it's not true. If it was a website someone read it on the only credible on is PWInsider and given that they have no knowledge of this someone just made it up.

i agree PWInsider is the only credible one. Most if not all of the other websites either copy from PWI or just make stuff up.

 

[anotheridiot]

SB Nation does a daily rumor deal on Yahoo and uses PWInsider as their source, at least that is where I am reading about the tough enough invasion.

 

[OregonDucks]

ive said this before shamefully, but Total Divas is more entertaining than RAW these days....

For the past several years there has been talk from the "experts" that wrestling needs to change a bit to recapture what it had in the 90s....Well, maybe a format similar to Total Divas, but for the males.

Not saying you dump RAW for a reality show on the guys lives or how they prep for a show, but maybe you supplement the reality show for RAW. I don't know? take the 8-9 timeslot on Mondays and give it the reality show, tehn 9pm-11pm is RAW?

I know Vince will probably never do this as it kills kayfabe, but if WWE doesn't change RAW the ratings will continue to drop. they were down to 2.5 last week.....that's awful.

 

[anotheridiot]

well, I think part of what they had in the 90's was due to the competition WCW gave wrestling. I dont think there would ever be another chance for that since Vince eliminated the competition. He doesnt want to buy TNA, they want to create NXT to be that other weekday must see while their real must see is dribbling away.

 

[Judge Fudge]

well, I think part of what they had in the 90's was due to the competition WCW gave wrestling. I dont think there would ever be another chance for that since Vince eliminated the competition. He doesnt want to buy TNA, they want to create NXT to be that other weekday must see while their real must see is dribbling away.

I really think the WWE product is down the toilet because simply there saying "we are the only product out there. If you don't believe that watch TNA. We dare you."

They know TNA is the only competition and there product is like hot steamy garbage (maybe this whole GFW invasion angle their planning might pan out but for now......)

ROH has the ability to compete and Vince knows it. Punk, Owens, Bryan, Balor (i think), Joe, Rollins, Sami and Hideo all came from there and hell WWE is still trying to drain it.

 

[wazzu31]

The whole PG thing is hampering them badly. I loved wrestling during the attitude era but turned it off until recently when my wife got into because of Total Divas, but damn it is lame and seems to lack creativity.

Cena's character is 20 years too late, Owens is boring, Neville is a crusierweight without a crusierweight opponent so his matches bore me. Positives IMO without Bryan is Brock showing up once in awhile and Rollins and Ambrose. I don't mind Reigns but he needs to be a heal.

The Rusev angle has potential IMO because they are using Ziggler (not the some patriot) but I wish Fandango was the one that took Lana. He gets such a huge reaction and has a dancing Val Venus type character.

 

[anotheridiot]

I mentioned Fandango should have been involved, and for a split second he was, but then it went to Ziggler again. I think they were concerned about putting a real diva against Lana so summer rae, even though she showed up in a few matches is small and there is no chance Lana is gonna look really bad against her.

I think we lost the chance for Reigns to go heel when they started with Wyatt. I can see Wyatt somehow turning him to his side thru this, but all Wyatt is gonna do is let him go like he did the sheep boy and bruiser brody jr.

 

[Goldy]

Watching SD, and I'm still amazed at the pop that R-Truth gets. Outstanding.

 

[wazzu31]

Watching SD, and I'm still amazed at the pop that R-Truth gets. Outstanding.

I remember when I first semi tuned in again R Truth got a huge reaction with him and some imaginary friend, I think it was Jimmy or something. I actually like him because his character can work as a face or heel just depends on the crowd, he can steal a belt and get cheered like Ambrose or steal it and get booed like Rollins.

 

[anotheridiot]

I remember when I first semi tuned in again R Truth got a huge reaction with him and some imaginary friend, I think it was Jimmy or something. I actually like him because his character can work as a face or heel just depends on the crowd, he can steal a belt and get cheered like Ambrose or steal it and get booed like Rollins.

Little Jimmy time was awesome, showed his range. But I think Truth is really a little crazy, otherwise he could easily take a role like Junkyard dog and they simply do not trust him.