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futballiscool

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I get it, I just keep saying that the first job is to make it believable. Choreograph the moves so it looks real is the first thing, second thing is dont let 200 pound guys defeat 300 pound guys unless they have a stunner type move that will put a guy out for three seconds.

I agree with the bolded part, but to me Bret Hart, Ricky Steamboat etc made it believable. It's about psychology and knowing how to sell moves.
 

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It's really about ring presence in the end. The ability to connect with the fans. The "it factor" if you may.
 

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I think you missed the play here.

The bricks were supposed to be hidden under the table as it was a planned deal.

The authority and Rollins planned the bricks being at ringside.

That's even more dumb. Because the set up was it was a fan vote so what if the match was voted where it wasn't in play (FWIW, I don't think the fan votes are real). Plus, no one would question a mysterious extra table? It's not a big deal. It's just amusing. Like in the days when they did more hardcore stuff and there would be like sledgehammers, chains, canes, etc under the ring. No reason why you'd ever have that stuff there but its just amusing to think about the under the ring magic act
 

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I guess I'm the only that thinks they f'd up. The match was a falls count anywhere, not a no disqualification. Once Kane got involved I changed the channel. It ruined what was a great match.

Pretty lame by the wwe.
 

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I guess I'm the only that thinks they f'd up. The match was a falls count anywhere, not a no disqualification. Once Kane got involved I changed the channel. It ruined what was a great match.

Pretty lame by the wwe.

I don't have a good feeling about NOC. It's like the WWE is setting this up to be the worst PPV possible.

Also,

:lol: @ the fan votes
 

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When night of champions started down south it was a great concept but it was also done as a special edition of the tv show.

Making NOC a pay per view ruined it.

as far as the LOL for the voting, I guess its a pretty good way to see how many people use the app.
 

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Yeah after that beat down makes no sense for Cena to beat Brock @ NOC. I just hope he shows up this time.

My far fetched fun would be to have Flair and Orton come out during the Cena match and while Flair distracts the ref, Orton hits Lesnar with an RKO. A beat down Cena rolls over and pins Lesnar. Rollins runs down, calls for a cash in match. Just as the match begins, Reigns shows up out of nowhere and spears Rollins. Rollins wins by DQ, Cena retains. Flair announces the 21st century Horsemen. If the WWE did something like this, they'd sell more subscriptions than they dreamed possible

What will happen...Lesnar crushes Cena for 30 minutes, Rollins and HHH come out, Trips distracts, Rollins hits Lesnar with a steel pipe and rolls Cena on top, Cena retains, Rollins then cashes. Cena gets another step closer to breaking Flair's record, which eventually leads to what this is all about, Cena catching Flair and defeating Lesnar clean at Wrestlemania to go down as the greatest champion ever
 

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I dont think the RKO would have the effect on Brocks thick neck that it has on most superstars to even make it believable.
 

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Lesnar is awesome. But not invincible. A fake pipe hit is what we are talking about here.

If real fists can do it, a fake pipe hit will certainly be convincing.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wxTghsSWnMc[/ame]
 

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NOC could have potential. They may want to remember the theme and actually have all the belts on the line. Here's my idea of what would draw me to watch:

Lesnar v. Cena (not ideal, but what other option is there? And they could build up a rematch. Hogan could train him, raw eggs, vitamins, and get him ready)

Sheamus v. Rusev (undefeated Russian goes for the US belt!)

Ziggler v. Bo Dallas

Paige v. Nikki v. AJ v. Brie fatal 4-way

I'm lost on the Usos. I guess we could see Rowan/Harper part 9?
 

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NOC could have potential. They may want to remember the theme and actually have all the belts on the line. Here's my idea of what would draw me to watch:

Lesnar v. Cena (not ideal, but what other option is there? And they could build up a rematch. Hogan could train him, raw eggs, vitamins, and get him ready)

Sheamus v. Rusev (undefeated Russian goes for the US belt!)

Ziggler v. Bo Dallas

Paige v. Nikki v. AJ v. Brie fatal 4-way

I'm lost on the Usos. I guess we could see Rowan/Harper part 9?

Nice card, I would put up the Usos against The Big Show & The World's Strongest Man.
 

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Nah...

NOC could have potential. They may want to remember the theme and actually have all the belts on the line. Here's my idea of what would draw me to watch:

Lesnar v. Cena (not ideal, but what other option is there? And they could build up a rematch. Hogan could train him, raw eggs, vitamins, and get him ready)

Sheamus v. Rusev (undefeated Russian goes for the US belt!)

Ziggler v. Bo Dallas

Paige v. Nikki v. AJ v. Brie fatal 4-way

I'm lost on the Usos. I guess we could see Rowan/Harper part 9?

Part 9? No

How about the Big Show & Mark Henry vs the Usos?

Also, Rusev vs Brock needs to happen sooner than later, but since both are heels, that won't materialize. I've heard "the king of swing" is fighting Sheamus.

How about this, a REAL US, US champ?

Ziggler vs Stardust?
 

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Cody and Dustin freak show fer tag team champs!!!!!!

:dance:
 

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NOC could have potential. They may want to remember the theme and actually have all the belts on the line. Here's my idea of what would draw me to watch:

Lesnar v. Cena (not ideal, but what other option is there? And they could build up a rematch. Hogan could train him, raw eggs, vitamins, and get him ready)

Sheamus v. Rusev (undefeated Russian goes for the US belt!)

Ziggler v. Bo Dallas

Paige v. Nikki v. AJ v. Brie fatal 4-way

I'm lost on the Usos. I guess we could see Rowan/Harper part 9?

And then, of course, have Hogan turn on Cena because somewhere along the way, one of these writers went to the Vince Russo School of Wrestling Storytelling.
 

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WWE should bring in a bunch of MMA guys, then let them go within a month, so they could be just like TNA.
 

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Bo needs to interrupt Cena's promo and offer him some words of encouragement Monday.
 
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