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[trojanfan12]

the fact that the Lakers sell a TON MORE MERCHANDISE than the Bucks means ABSOLUTELY ZIPPO

is that hard to understand? am i not writing something clearly?

Never said it did Einstein. I said it's money that they get on top of the t.v. money that already covers their salary and any resultant luxury tax.

You're really not making yourself look very bright right now.

 

[Heatles84]

Never said it did Einstein. I said it's money that they get on top of the t.v. money that already covers their salary and any resultant luxury tax.

You're really not making yourself look very bright right now.

This is a gross understatement. If Russ is going to be a lawyer, I see him being as effective of a lawyer as the prosecution in the Casey Anthony case.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Never said it did Einstein. I said it's money that they get on top of the t.v. money that already covers their salary and any resultant luxury tax.

You're really not making yourself look very bright right now.

i am jsaying its irrelevant- it does the same exact for each team covering their own salaries - so if you are going to say the Lakers get an advantage from it somehow in covering their salary it makes no sense waht so ever -

there is no reason to even mention it because it does nothing that it doesnt do for the other teams


I fail to see its relevance because it benefits each team equally in covering their salary. To me- in an argument of why the Lakers can pay the tax- when all they have done is cost cutting moves the last few years- is irrelevant to me

 

[trojanfan12]

allright- as i said- obviously you did not read my prior posts

the main business of the Buss' is basketball- its how they have made their money- the Buss' do not have NEAR - not a FRACTION of the wealth a Gilbert, or Arison or Prokohrov, or Cuban or Allen have- they just dont

ANd that Tv contract- take 40 million RIGHT OFFF THE TOP each year for revenue sharing.


that TV contract is small potatos compared to carnival cruise lines, compared to quicken loans and a handful of casinos, compared to microsoft,

Dan Gilbert is a FREAKING BILLIONAIRE who could buy and sell the combined personal wealth of the Buss' many times over


these are facts- not made up stuff

Dan Gilbert and the rest of those owners mentioned have the means to go FAR deeper into the tax- ESPECIALLY with its new design than the Lakers do

that is a fact

The Buss' family did not make their money on basketball, Dr. Buss made his fortune in real estate. The family still has many very valuable assets from Dr. Buss' real estate ventures.

The Lakers have paid the most or close to the most in luxury tax ever since the luxury tax was instituted.

Face it Einstein, you're dead wrong and you have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[Hambombs]

i never said Allen because i dont think he is coming

but when Tom Withers of the AP of Cleveland reports something and Adrian Woj reports the same thing concerning Love- i trust it above all other reporters since they do not go with something- especially the Cleveland AP guy- until it is confirmed multiple times by multiple reliable sources

and the Pacers have given up on signing Marion because they believe it is a fait accompli he signs with the Cavs- when other teams start doing that i feel very confident he will be here-

if it was not a 95% level of assuredness on MArion i would not go with it---- and as for the Love thing- ill proverbially live and die with what Tom withers of the AP reports on a Cleveland sports basis

Marion just met with bird today actually, and it's all good I'm just talking about everyone in general

 

[WiggyRuss]

an astonishing turn of events, the Los Angeles Lakers have decided to trade Derek Fisher to the Houston Rockets for forward Jordan Hill, likely ending the Laker career of a point guard who has started for three of the five Laker championship teams he's played on. In a day that saw the Lakers save a good chunk of money (both in terms of Luke Walton's 2012-13 contract, and the 2012 draft pick they don't have to pay, sending both to Cleveland) while improving their point guard situation, the Lakers made a callous, needless, money-saving deal just to rid itself of Fisher's $3.4 million contract for next season.




he NBA refused to let the Los Angeles Lakers trade Lamar Odom last week but not a peep was heard from David Stern when the Lakers pulled a straight salary dump, unloading Odom a for a No. 1 draft pick in 2012.


Lamar Odom
photo by: compujeramey Wikimedia Commons
Trading the NBA's best sixth man for the 24th-28th pick overall in next year's draft is bad enough, but to trade Odom to the Dallas Mavericks, the team that destroyed the Lakers in the playoffs last season, is unfathomable.



We’ve got another NBA trade to report breaking at this hour. The Cleveland Cavaliers have sent Ramon Sessions and Christian Eyenga to the Los Angeles Lakers for Luke Walton, Jason Kapono and the Lakers 2012 first round draft pick.
The biggest significance of this deal? It’s a salary dump for L.A. Lakers fans in the Twitterverse are happy to see him go.


the Lakers have been making moves for YEARS to save salary since their heyday

this year what is their salary compared to when they were competing for titles?

 

[Hambombs]

break down the spurs for me against the Heat because i simply dont agree- especially considering the dwade that showed up

the only clear advantage the heat had at a position was lebron v. leonard and leonard was no slouch

Heat were better on paper than the spurs. Pops the superior coach though. That's why I'm hoping Kerr has learned a lot from pop over this summer

 

[bksballer89]

Heat were better on paper than the spurs. Pops the superior coach though. That's why I'm hoping Kerr has learned a lot from pop over this summer

The Heat weren't better on paper....

 

[Heatles84]

The Heat weren't better on paper....

Talent-wise they were, not by much, but with Lebron in the lineup they were. Pop is just a bad ass for a coach.

 

[WiggyRuss]

2012/2013 LAkers 90M
2013/2014 LAkers 77M
2014/2015 Lakers projected 73M

once big daddy Buss went away- and now its the kids in charge that have to split the team- they arent so hot on paying a ton of extra luxury tax money out there

 

[Hambombs]

The Heat weren't better on paper....

So spurs were better in 2013 and 2014? People thought heat #1 team every year

 

[Heatles84]

an astonishing turn of events, the Los Angeles Lakers have decided to trade Derek Fisher to the Houston Rockets for forward Jordan Hill, likely ending the Laker career of a point guard who has started for three of the five Laker championship teams he's played on. In a day that saw the Lakers save a good chunk of money (both in terms of Luke Walton's 2012-13 contract, and the 2012 draft pick they don't have to pay, sending both to Cleveland) while improving their point guard situation, the Lakers made a callous, needless, money-saving deal just to rid itself of Fisher's $3.4 million contract for next season.




he NBA refused to let the Los Angeles Lakers trade Lamar Odom last week but not a peep was heard from David Stern when the Lakers pulled a straight salary dump, unloading Odom a for a No. 1 draft pick in 2012.


Lamar Odom
photo by: compujeramey Wikimedia Commons
Trading the NBA's best sixth man for the 24th-28th pick overall in next year's draft is bad enough, but to trade Odom to the Dallas Mavericks, the team that destroyed the Lakers in the playoffs last season, is unfathomable.



We’ve got another NBA trade to report breaking at this hour. The Cleveland Cavaliers have sent Ramon Sessions and Christian Eyenga to the Los Angeles Lakers for Luke Walton, Jason Kapono and the Lakers 2012 first round draft pick.
The biggest significance of this deal? It’s a salary dump for L.A. Lakers fans in the Twitterverse are happy to see him go.


the Lakers have been making moves for YEARS to save salary since their heyday

this year what is their salary compared to when they were competing for titles?

You point out all of these trades where the Lakers attempt to shed salary. Yet you don't mention that the aforementioned trades would've made the Lakers better. Any team is going to try to shed unnecessary salary. As Mecca mentioned it before, just because you have money, doesn't mean you have to spend it blindly. Why spend $80 million on a roster when you can spend about $67 million on a roster that gets the same production?

 

[Hambombs]

Talent-wise they were, not by much, but with Lebron in the lineup they were. Pop is just a bad ass for a coach.

Exactly talent wise they were.

 

[bksballer89]

Talent-wise they were, not by much, but with Lebron in the lineup they were. Pop is just a bad ass for a coach.

The Heat big 3 were better than the Spurs big 3 and after that the spurs had the advantage. They had the better role players, better offense, better defense, and better 3 point shooting. In 2013 the Heat had the advantage in 3 pt shooting and defense due to Battier & Allen being better shooters than they were last year

 

[bksballer89]

Exactly talent wise they were.

Basketball is more than 3 players. Heat had the advantage over most teams 1-3 but the Spurs had the significant advantage 4-12

 

[bksballer89]

So spurs were better in 2013 and 2014? People thought heat #1 team every year

Are we talking about 2013 or 2014? I jumped in the convo late and assumed you were talking about this past season.

 

[Heatles84]

The Heat big 3 were better than the Spurs big 3 and after that the spurs had the advantage. They had the better role players, better offense, better defense, and better 3 point shooting. In 2013 the Heat had the advantage in 3 pt shooting and defense due to Battier & Allen being better shooters than they were last year

Like I said, talent-wise the Heat were better (slightly). Game-planning and strategy goes to the Spurs though. No fault to Spo, but Pop is in the league of Phil, Riley and other greats.

 

[trojanfan12]

i am jsaying its irrelevant- it does the same exact for each team covering their own salaries - so if you are going to say the Lakers get an advantage from it somehow in covering their salary it makes no sense waht so ever -

there is no reason to even mention it because it does nothing that it doesnt do for the other teams


I fail to see its relevance because it benefits each team equally in covering their salary. To me- in an argument of why the Lakers can pay the tax- when all they have done is cost cutting moves the last few years- is irrelevant to me

It is absolutely relevant. As turnup tried to explain to you.

The Lakers get $200 million dollars from Time Warner every year. That is before any other revenue from any other source. That is the richest t.v. deal in the NBA. That means they are at a financial advantage before any other revenue is added. It's part of the reason why the Lakers are one of few NBA teams that actually turn a profit every year.

If the Cavs have get $50 million in t.v. revenue and the Lakers get $200 million, the Lakers are already at a $150 million advantage. If each team gets $10 million in merchandise money from the league, the Lakers are still at a $150 million advantage.

It's pretty basic math.

The Lakers haven't been making cost cutting moves until this coming season. There is this thing called a salary cap. They are getting the team under the cap, so that they can sign a couple of max level players over the next couple of seasons as they have to be under the cap to do that. Once they have those players signed, they can then go over the cap to fill the roster.

How is it possible that you can't understand any of that?

 

[Hambombs]

Are we talking about 2013 or 2014? I jumped in the convo late and assumed you were talking about this past season.

Both 2013 and 14. 2 years I thought spurs should of won it but you guys got it

 

[bksballer89]

Both 2013 and 14. 2 years I thought spurs should of won it but you guys got it

In my opinion 2013 the Heat were better but in 2014 the Spurs were. Heat role players produced more in 2013 and our defense was better in 2013. In 2014 Ray shot poorly, Battier was god awful, and this was a bad defensive team.