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Nikola Jokić/Shai Gilgeous-Alexander comparison

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If neither had ever won an MVP. I pick the joker. Sga would get my pick this year but only because jokic has a few.
 

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Also, okc wins 35-40 without sga.
The nuggets are a lottery team without jokic.
 

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From Basketball Reference…………………

2024-25 NBA MVP Award Tracker

The NBA MVP Award Tracker ranks candidates based on a model built using previous voting results. Players must have played in at least 70% of the league-wide average for team games to qualify. Players who are not currently on pace to play in 65 games are in italics. Players who cannot reach 65 games played are excluded.


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RkPlayerTeamWLW/L%GGSMPFGFGAFG%3P3PA3P%2P2PA2P%eFG%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTSProb%
1Nikola JokicDEN4223.646595936.411.119.2.5771.94.5.4309.114.7.622.6274.85.9.8092.910.113.010.51.80.73.32.228.965.6%
2Shai Gilgeous-AlexanderOKC5312.815636334.311.321.5.5252.25.8.3739.115.7.581.5758.08.9.9000.94.25.16.21.81.12.52.332.727.0%
3Giannis AntetokounmpoMIL3628.562525233.912.220.2.6050.20.8.18612.119.4.623.6096.010.2.5942.39.812.15.90.81.23.32.530.71.8%
4Jayson TatumBOS4718.723606036.59.220.3.4553.610.2.3555.610.1.556.5445.16.3.8040.78.28.95.81.10.52.92.227.21.4%
5Evan MobleyCLE5510.846585830.27.112.6.5681.12.9.3656.19.6.630.6103.24.3.7442.37.09.33.10.81.62.02.018.60.9%
6Karl-Anthony TownsNYK4123.641575735.18.716.7.5232.14.9.4216.711.8.565.5844.85.7.8343.010.213.33.11.00.72.63.524.20.8%
7Jarrett AllenCLE5510.846656528.65.57.9.7000.00.0.0005.57.8.704.7002.53.3.7552.77.610.31.91.01.01.21.513.60.8%
8LeBron JamesLAL4023.635585834.99.618.5.5172.35.9.3847.312.6.580.5793.64.7.7701.07.28.28.50.90.63.91.525.00.6%
9Darius GarlandCLE5510.846616130.47.515.7.4772.97.1.4114.68.6.533.5713.13.6.8810.62.02.66.71.20.22.42.021.00.6%
10Donovan MitchellCLE5510.846606031.38.418.6.4513.59.0.3844.99.5.514.5444.04.9.8190.73.64.34.81.30.22.12.024.20.6%

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There's a clear ESPN engineered narrative to declare that SGA is, without question, the MVP.

Jokic ran into this a few years ago with Embiid. Embiid ended up winning, but likely was behind Jokic and Giannis in reality.

Jokic's numbers, +/- effect on the game, his PER... all at legendary numbers. He means more than any player to any team. If he doesn't win this year, IMO, it will be because:
1. Voter fatigue
2. He's white
 

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There's a clear ESPN engineered narrative to declare that SGA is, without question, the MVP.

Jokic ran into this a few years ago with Embiid. Embiid ended up winning, but likely was behind Jokic and Giannis in reality.

Jokic's numbers, +/- effect on the game, his PER... all at legendary numbers. He means more than any player to any team. If he doesn't win this year, IMO, it will be because:
1. Voter fatigue
2. He's white

Nope.

1: voter fatigue
2: Thunder have a significantly better record and SGA has amazing numbers also.
 

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Nope.

1: voter fatigue
2: Thunder have a significantly better record and SGA has amazing numbers also.
I like to hold myself accountable and do my homework before I make bold predictions. I think I made one too quickly after looking at some of SGA's advanced stats.

SGA dominates in plus/minus. He leads the league at +841, Jokic is a distant second at +651
SGA squeeks past in Win shares per 48 minutes. He leads the league at .314 while Jokic is 2nd at .313
Jokic is 1st in Player efficiency rating at at a legendary 32.2, SGA is second at 30.9.

I would be fine with either winning. I don't mind fresh faces who deserve it, and with these advanced metrics, it seems SGA would quite deserve it in enough areas to get no complaints from me.
 

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I like to hold myself accountable and do my homework before I make bold predictions. I think I made one too quickly after looking at some of SGA's advanced stats.

SGA dominates in plus/minus. He leads the league at +841, Jokic is a distant second at +651
SGA squeeks past in Win shares per 48 minutes. He leads the league at .314 while Jokic is 2nd at .313
Jokic is 1st in Player efficiency rating at at a legendary 32.2, SGA is second at 30.9.

I would be fine with either winning. I don't mind fresh faces who deserve it, and with these advanced metrics, it seems SGA would quite deserve it in enough areas to get no complaints from me.

He would absolutely deserve it.

Has Jokic had a slightly better season?

I think so. But not enough to negate the difference in the win column.
 

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GameScrore average>Jokić 29.8>SGA 27.2
+/- average>SGA 12.0>Jokić 8.2
^^^ does not include tonight’s Nuggets game.

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RkPlayerAgeFromToGGSMPPERTS%ORB%TRB%AST%STL%BLK%TOV%USG%OWSDWSWSWS/48OBPMDBPMBPMVORP
1Shai Gilgeous-Alexander262024-252024-256464219730.9.6452.97.930.52.53.19.234.610.34.114.4.3148.82.711.57.5
2Nikola Jokic292024-252024-256060218632.2.6629.219.544.52.31.613.029.211.03.214.2.31310.13.513.58.5

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