Nikola Jokić/Shai Gilgeous-Alexander comparison

[msgkings322]

That sounds right

If we’re being honest he has been snubbed for MVP like 4 times already

 

[raptorlife4]

could be a chance we get co-mvp

 

[thunderc]

could be a chance we get co-mvp

No

 

[Old Sweater]

This is Crazy Close, metric wise!

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[Picklerick 2.0]

If neither had ever won an MVP. I pick the joker. Sga would get my pick this year but only because jokic has a few.

 

[Picklerick 2.0]

Also, okc wins 35-40 without sga.
The nuggets are a lottery team without jokic.

 

[msgkings322]

Also, okc wins 35-40 without sga.
The nuggets are a lottery team without jokic.

OKC wins more than that without him. They are very deep

 

[DrewScott]

could be a chance we get co-mvp

I think it will go that way. It's impossible to rank one ahead of the other. Both great.

 

[Old Sweater]

From Basketball Reference…………………

2024-25 NBA MVP Award Tracker

The NBA MVP Award Tracker ranks candidates based on a model built using previous voting results. Players must have played in at least 70% of the league-wide average for team games to qualify. Players who are not currently on pace to play in 65 games are in italics. Players who cannot reach 65 games played are excluded.


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Rk	Player	Team	W	L	W/L%	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS		Prob%
1	Nikola Jokic	DEN	42	23	.646	59	59	36.4	11.1	19.2	.577	1.9	4.5	.430	9.1	14.7	.622	.627	4.8	5.9	.809	2.9	10.1	13.0	10.5	1.8	0.7	3.3	2.2	28.9		65.6%
2	Shai Gilgeous-Alexander	OKC	53	12	.815	63	63	34.3	11.3	21.5	.525	2.2	5.8	.373	9.1	15.7	.581	.575	8.0	8.9	.900	0.9	4.2	5.1	6.2	1.8	1.1	2.5	2.3	32.7		27.0%
3	Giannis Antetokounmpo	MIL	36	28	.562	52	52	33.9	12.2	20.2	.605	0.2	0.8	.186	12.1	19.4	.623	.609	6.0	10.2	.594	2.3	9.8	12.1	5.9	0.8	1.2	3.3	2.5	30.7		1.8%
4	Jayson Tatum	BOS	47	18	.723	60	60	36.5	9.2	20.3	.455	3.6	10.2	.355	5.6	10.1	.556	.544	5.1	6.3	.804	0.7	8.2	8.9	5.8	1.1	0.5	2.9	2.2	27.2		1.4%
5	Evan Mobley	CLE	55	10	.846	58	58	30.2	7.1	12.6	.568	1.1	2.9	.365	6.1	9.6	.630	.610	3.2	4.3	.744	2.3	7.0	9.3	3.1	0.8	1.6	2.0	2.0	18.6		0.9%
6	Karl-Anthony Towns	NYK	41	23	.641	57	57	35.1	8.7	16.7	.523	2.1	4.9	.421	6.7	11.8	.565	.584	4.8	5.7	.834	3.0	10.2	13.3	3.1	1.0	0.7	2.6	3.5	24.2		0.8%
7	Jarrett Allen	CLE	55	10	.846	65	65	28.6	5.5	7.9	.700	0.0	0.0	.000	5.5	7.8	.704	.700	2.5	3.3	.755	2.7	7.6	10.3	1.9	1.0	1.0	1.2	1.5	13.6		0.8%
8	LeBron James	LAL	40	23	.635	58	58	34.9	9.6	18.5	.517	2.3	5.9	.384	7.3	12.6	.580	.579	3.6	4.7	.770	1.0	7.2	8.2	8.5	0.9	0.6	3.9	1.5	25.0		0.6%
9	Darius Garland	CLE	55	10	.846	61	61	30.4	7.5	15.7	.477	2.9	7.1	.411	4.6	8.6	.533	.571	3.1	3.6	.881	0.6	2.0	2.6	6.7	1.2	0.2	2.4	2.0	21.0		0.6%
10	Donovan Mitchell	CLE	55	10	.846	60	60	31.3	8.4	18.6	.451	3.5	9.0	.384	4.9	9.5	.514	.544	4.0	4.9	.819	0.7	3.6	4.3	4.8	1.3	0.2	2.1	2.0	24.2		0.6%

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Generated 3/13/2025.

 

[thunderc]

This is all you need to look at, Shai -550 Jokic +380

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/basketball/nba?category=awards&subcategory=mvp

 

[Mr. Friscus]

There's a clear ESPN engineered narrative to declare that SGA is, without question, the MVP.

Jokic ran into this a few years ago with Embiid. Embiid ended up winning, but likely was behind Jokic and Giannis in reality.

Jokic's numbers, +/- effect on the game, his PER... all at legendary numbers. He means more than any player to any team. If he doesn't win this year, IMO, it will be because:
1. Voter fatigue
2. He's white

 

[tlance]

There's a clear ESPN engineered narrative to declare that SGA is, without question, the MVP.

Jokic ran into this a few years ago with Embiid. Embiid ended up winning, but likely was behind Jokic and Giannis in reality.

Jokic's numbers, +/- effect on the game, his PER... all at legendary numbers. He means more than any player to any team. If he doesn't win this year, IMO, it will be because:
1. Voter fatigue
2. He's white

Nope.

1: voter fatigue
2: Thunder have a significantly better record and SGA has amazing numbers also.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Nope.

1: voter fatigue
2: Thunder have a significantly better record and SGA has amazing numbers also.

I like to hold myself accountable and do my homework before I make bold predictions. I think I made one too quickly after looking at some of SGA's advanced stats.

SGA dominates in plus/minus. He leads the league at +841, Jokic is a distant second at +651
SGA squeeks past in Win shares per 48 minutes. He leads the league at .314 while Jokic is 2nd at .313
Jokic is 1st in Player efficiency rating at at a legendary 32.2, SGA is second at 30.9.

I would be fine with either winning. I don't mind fresh faces who deserve it, and with these advanced metrics, it seems SGA would quite deserve it in enough areas to get no complaints from me.

 

[tlance]

I like to hold myself accountable and do my homework before I make bold predictions. I think I made one too quickly after looking at some of SGA's advanced stats.

SGA dominates in plus/minus. He leads the league at +841, Jokic is a distant second at +651
SGA squeeks past in Win shares per 48 minutes. He leads the league at .314 while Jokic is 2nd at .313
Jokic is 1st in Player efficiency rating at at a legendary 32.2, SGA is second at 30.9.

I would be fine with either winning. I don't mind fresh faces who deserve it, and with these advanced metrics, it seems SGA would quite deserve it in enough areas to get no complaints from me.

He would absolutely deserve it.

Has Jokic had a slightly better season?

I think so. But not enough to negate the difference in the win column.

 

[Old Sweater]

GameScrore average>Jokić 29.8>SGA 27.2
+/- average>SGA 12.0>Jokić 8.2
^^^ does not include tonight’s Nuggets game.

Their Metrics
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Rk	Player	Age	From	To	G	GS	MP	PER	TS%	ORB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	OWS	DWS	WS	WS/48	OBPM	DBPM	BPM	VORP
1	Shai Gilgeous-Alexander	26	2024-25	2024-25	64	64	2197	30.9	.645	2.9	7.9	30.5	2.5	3.1	9.2	34.6	10.3	4.1	14.4	.314	8.8	2.7	11.5	7.5
2	Nikola Jokic	29	2024-25	2024-25	60	60	2186	32.2	.662	9.2	19.5	44.5	2.3	1.6	13.0	29.2	11.0	3.2	14.2	.313	10.1	3.5	13.5	8.5

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