NFL Scouting Combine notes

[ChrisPozz]

Maiocco:

49ers DB coach Ed Donatell was chatting with ex-LSU CB Tyrann Mathieu between drills. Mathieu smiled and gave Donatell pat on his back.

 

[ChrisPozz]

I wouldn't draft Mathieu - his character/make-up just scares me too much for his skill set and physical make-up - but he looks fantastic today. Very good workout about halfway through.

 

[Bemular]

Maiocco:

49ers DB coach Ed Donatell was chatting with ex-LSU CB Tyrann Mathieu between drills. Mathieu smiled and gave Donatell pat on his back.

Don't be tempted Eddie - let this punk grow-up on someone elses dime.

 

[LeaderOCola]

some sick verticals from group 2.

if s. thomas blows away the 40 like is speculated he will move into day 2 probably.

elam looked very good and likely first day now

banks looked like shit.

 

[Dodub]

Looks like Milliner solidified his spot. I didn't see, did Trufant not run?

Other thoughts: Mathieu might of helped himself a lot today, depending on his interviews (4.43 is faster than advertised). Elam running a 4.4 is faster than I thought he would be.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I wouldn't draft Mathieu - his character/make-up just scares me too much for his skill set and physical make-up - but he looks fantastic today. Very good workout about halfway through.

Oh I'd absolutely take him in the 3rd. Maybe even with the Bengals second 2nd rounder.

 

[LeaderOCola]

Looks like Milliner solidified his spot. I didn't see, did Trufant not run?

Other thoughts: Mathieu might of helped himself a lot today, depending on his interviews (4.43 is faster than advertised). Elam running a 4.4 is faster than I thought he would be.

trufant is in group 2.
there are 60 dbs

 

[ChrisPozz]

A few wasted/garbage steps from Mathieu in the 2nd half of drills after he got off to a pretty good start.

 

[Dodub]

I think he looks really good, but I'm still not sure I'd touch hiim before the 4th

 

[4lifer9er]

If we get a comp pick in the third, there is no doubt I would look hard at him and Lattimore.

 

[ChrisPozz]

Ugh, Deion. If you're a kid now-a-days and you're playing football for a small school and you don't think you have a chance to get to the NFL then you're really unintelligent and I don't feel one bit sorry for you if you let that get to you.

 

[Dodub]

Pozz is that 4.37 for Mathieu official? Oh wait NVM, they just said unofficial

 

[ChrisPozz]

ESPN CFB analyst and former NFL player Mark May on Te'o:

Any team that wastes a 1st round pick on Manti Teo should fire their GM on draft day

He's a mid to late 2nd at best

 

[Ray_Dogg]

ESPN CFB analyst and former NFL player Mark May on Te'o:

Any team that wastes a 1st round pick on Manti Teo should fire their GM on draft day

I agree.

 

[ChrisPozz]

Pozz is that 4.37 for Mathieu official? Oh wait NVM, they just said unofficial

Scroll back a page or so for the unofficial times and splits I posted. Oh, wait. I'll just post it again. Thought I didn't have it up still on my computer.

NFL Network Unofficial DB 40 Times

Johnny Adams - 4.45 (not shown), 4.47 (1.53)
Robert Alford - 4.41 (1.53), 4.44 (1.52)
David Amerson - 4.38 (1.52), 4.47 (not shown)
Marc Anthony - 4.56 (1.56), 4.57 (1.75 - whoa!)
Johnthan Banks - 4.59 (1.61), 4.64 (1.59)
John Boyett - DNR
Adrian Bushell - 4.50 (1.57), 4.56 (1.55),
Sanders Commings - 4.48 (1.53), 4.50 (1.53)
John Cyprien - DNR
Will Davis - 4.53 (1.56), 4.59 (not shown)
Mike Edwards - 4.59 (1.60), 4.47 (not shown)
Matt Elam - 4.46 (1.61), 4.53 (1.57)
Josh Evans - 4.60 (1.64), 4.60 (1.63) - On his 2nd attempt he flinched and rocked forward at the start. Didn't pop up like he should.
Dwayne Gratz - 4.41 (1.50), 4.35 (not shown)
Terry Hawthorne - 4.40 (1.56), 4.41 (1.51)
D.J. Hayden - DNR
Aaron Hester - 4.57 (1.59), 4.65 (1.59)
Micah Hyde - 4.47 (1.61), 4.54 (1.59)
Tony Jefferson - 4.65 (1.67), 4.62 (not shown) - On his 1st 40 attempt, he popped way up just inside 10 yards. Ugly. 2nd attempt was very slow the first 10 yards.
Josh Johnson - 4.53 (1.59), 4.63 (1.57)
Keelan Johnson - 4.47 (1.59), 4.47 (1.53)
Robert Lester - 4.68 (not shown), 4.69 (not shown) - On his 1st 40 attempt, he had a slight misstep just inside 10 yards. 2nd attempt he looked very slow inside 10 yards.
Tyrann Mathieu - 4.43 (1.51), 4.50 (1.53)
Demetrius McCray - 4.47 (1.50), 4.48 (1.53)
T.J. McDonald - 4.53 (1.59), 4.59 (1.53)
Bradley McDougald - 4.69 (1.68), 4.72 (1.73)
Leon McFadden - 4.47 (1.53), 4.59 (1.53)
Brandon McGee - 4.41 (1.46), 4.38 (1.47)
Rontez Miles - 4.60 (not shown), 4.62 (not shown)
Dee Milliner - 4.31 (1.52), 4.37 (1.49) - His 1st attempt may have looked like the slowest unofficial 4.3 I've ever seen.

Zeke Motta -
Jordan Poyer -
Bacarri Rambo -
Eric Reid -
Greg Reid -
Xavier Rhodes -
Nickell Robey -
Logan Ryan -
Tharold Simon -
Jamoris Slaughter -
Darius Slay -
Daimion Stafford -
Jawanza Starling -
Daxton Swanson -
D.J. Swearinger -
Rod Sweeting -
Jamar Taylor -
Phillip Thomas -
Shamarko Thomas -
Desmond Trufant -
Kenny Vaccaro -
B.W. Webb -
Kayvon Webster -
J.J. Wilcox -
Duke Williams -
Shawn Williams -
Steve Williams -
Earl Wolff -
Khalid Wooten -
Blidi Wreh-Wilson -

 

[LeaderOCola]

Rhodes unofficial 4.41 would easily take over Millner

 

[Dodub]

Scroll back a page or so for the unofficial times and splits I posted. Oh, wait. I'll just post it again. Thought I didn't have it up still on my computer.

NFL Network Unofficial DB 40 Times

Johnny Adams - 4.45 (not shown), 4.47 (1.53)
Robert Alford - 4.41 (1.53), 4.44 (1.52)
David Amerson - 4.38 (1.52), 4.47 (not shown)
Marc Anthony - 4.56 (1.56), 4.57 (1.75 - whoa!)
Johnthan Banks - 4.59 (1.61), 4.64 (1.59)
John Boyett - DNR
Adrian Bushell - 4.50 (1.57), 4.56 (1.55),
Sanders Commings - 4.48 (1.53), 4.50 (1.53)
John Cyprien - DNR
Will Davis - 4.53 (1.56), 4.59 (not shown)
Mike Edwards - 4.59 (1.60), 4.47 (not shown)
Matt Elam - 4.46 (1.61), 4.53 (1.57)
Josh Evans - 4.60 (1.64), 4.60 (1.63) - On his 2nd attempt he flinched and rocked forward at the start. Didn't pop up like he should.
Dwayne Gratz - 4.41 (1.50), 4.35 (not shown)
Terry Hawthorne - 4.40 (1.56), 4.41 (1.51)
D.J. Hayden - DNR
Aaron Hester - 4.57 (1.59), 4.65 (1.59)
Micah Hyde - 4.47 (1.61), 4.54 (1.59)
Tony Jefferson - 4.65 (1.67), 4.62 (not shown) - On his 1st 40 attempt, he popped way up just inside 10 yards. Ugly. 2nd attempt was very slow the first 10 yards.
Josh Johnson - 4.53 (1.59), 4.63 (1.57)
Keelan Johnson - 4.47 (1.59), 4.47 (1.53)
Robert Lester - 4.68 (not shown), 4.69 (not shown) - On his 1st 40 attempt, he had a slight misstep just inside 10 yards. 2nd attempt he looked very slow inside 10 yards.
Tyrann Mathieu - 4.43 (1.51), 4.50 (1.53)
Demetrius McCray - 4.47 (1.50), 4.48 (1.53)
T.J. McDonald - 4.53 (1.59), 4.59 (1.53)
Bradley McDougald - 4.69 (1.68), 4.72 (1.73)
Leon McFadden - 4.47 (1.53), 4.59 (1.53)
Brandon McGee - 4.41 (1.46), 4.38 (1.47)
Rontez Miles - 4.60 (not shown), 4.62 (not shown)
Dee Milliner - 4.31 (1.52), 4.37 (1.49) - His 1st attempt may have looked like the slowest unofficial 4.3 I've ever seen.

Zeke Motta -
Jordan Poyer -
Bacarri Rambo -
Eric Reid -
Greg Reid -
Xavier Rhodes -
Nickell Robey -
Logan Ryan -
Tharold Simon -
Jamoris Slaughter -
Darius Slay -
Daimion Stafford -
Jawanza Starling -
Daxton Swanson -
D.J. Swearinger -
Rod Sweeting -
Jamar Taylor -
Phillip Thomas -
Shamarko Thomas -
Desmond Trufant -
Kenny Vaccaro -
B.W. Webb -
Kayvon Webster -
J.J. Wilcox -
Duke Williams -
Shawn Williams -
Steve Williams -
Earl Wolff -
Khalid Wooten -
Blidi Wreh-Wilson -

The reason I was asking is because the NFL.com feed was talking 4.37 as his unofficial time, had me confused for a second.

 

[BINGO]

I don't see any way Mathieu is drafted before the 4th or 5th. He is undersized, not an overwhelming athlete, hasn't played in a year and has character issues.

I'd draft him though in the 4th. We have too many picks not to find it in us to act aggressive with our approach in the draft. I can see him and Spillman battleling it out to be our best gunners on the squad/NFL. He is a future starter IMO. He's tenacious and also has a nose for the ball (keen sense to make the critical plays). Which is why I think he's worth a 4th round pick for a team that possess a total of 19 draft picks (with Alex Smith trade). I agree with Sick though, a 5th is where he should be drafted, but he won't last that long for us, forcing us to use one of our fourth round picks on him.

 

[ChrisPozz]

The reason I was asking is because the NFL.com feed was talking 4.37 as his unofficial time, had me confused for a second.

They're wrong. Unless they were saying somebody they talked to in the stands had him at 4.37.

 

[LeaderOCola]

4.38 with a faceplant.
lol