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I watched last nights game on Twitch with Move the Sticks/Daniel Jeremiah. worth checking out


 

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Fake news!!

Some perspective please!!!

ONLY one of them did this prior to relaxed rule changes and he wore the number 13. BTW; I know something that some here don't or won't acknowledge... These numbers will pale in comparison to what's coming because of these rule changes and it's also why you cannot compare eras or make judgement on things like the GOAT, best ever at a certain position, and even records as evidence for one thing or the other.

To lump Kirk Cousins and to a lesser extent Manning in such pairings, proves how worthless this stat is, because he is, in fact average and easily replaceable, while Manning cried, whined, and bitched his way into getting the rules changed.
 
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Fake news!!

Some perspective please!!!

ONLY one of them did this prior to relaxed rule changes and he wore the number 13. BTW; I know something that some here don't or won't acknowledge... These numbers will pale in comparison to what's coming because of these rule changes and it's also why you cannot compare eras or make judgement on things like the GOAT, best ever at a certain position, and even records as evidence for one thing or the other.

To lump Kirk Cousins and to a lesser extent Manning in such pairings, proves how worthless this stat is, because he is, in fact average and easily replaceable, while Manning cried, whined, and bitched his way into getting the rules changed.
If your assertion is correct then why haven’t these other qbs done it ?
 

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If your assertion is correct then why haven’t these other qbs done it ?
1.Other teams have run games that they can rely upon.

2. Coaches approach to the game differ from team to team.

3. You'd have to eliminate teams that simply don't have a clue, and simply waste decades, collecting money.

4. You'd have to also conclude that there are teams that would rather win than build personal stats, for example, how is it that Brady, Bradshaw or Montana aren't on the 3 person list?

I could go on and on with these, but I won't because you know and I know that it is a bullshit stat proving nothing, but good for them.
 
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How interesting is it that other teams seem willing to put together a package that would be deemed one that "mortgages the future" if done here... for what you've called a losing, Kirk Cousins level, can't will his team to victory type of QB.

Perhaps, it's time to stop with the foolishness and get in the real world. The game has changed and this guy is a franchise changer. Yes there are risks and yes the cost is high, but when others are willing, despite it all, to pay the cost for the best you have to wonder why our team isn't.
 

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How interesting is it that other teams seem willing to put together a package that would be deemed one that "mortgages the future" if done here... for what you've called a losing, Kirk Cousins level, can't will his team to victory type of QB.

Perhaps, it's time to stop with the foolishness and get in the real world. The game has changed and this guy is a franchise changer. Yes there are risks and yes the cost is high, but when others are willing, despite it all, to pay the cost for the best you have to wonder why our team isn't.
Perhaps we need to manage our risks and wait till the sex abuser is cleared
 

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1.Other teams have run games that they can rely upon.

2. Coaches approach to the game differ from team to team.

3. You'd have to eliminate teams that simply don't have a clue, and simply waste decades, collecting money.

4. You'd have to also conclude that there are teams that would rather win than build personal stats, for example, how is it that Brady, Bradshaw or Montana aren't on the 3 person list?

I could go on and on with these, but I won't because you know and I know that it is a bullshit stat proving nothing, but good for them.
I think a guy like mahomes will be there . The fact is he is on the list with some all time greats and if that were easy then more would be on it .
 

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Perhaps we need to manage our risks and wait till the sex abuser is cleared
I can't disagree with you, historically that is what this organization does. (Manage risks) It's also the reason why they are consistently an NFL afterthought.
 

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I think a guy like mahomes will be there . The fact is he is on the list with some all time greats and if that were easy then more would be on it .
Where's "there?" It's a bullshit stat!! I've given the reasons why. More aren't on it because it's contrived bullshit. However, to be fair, what's the take from having this stat? What does it mean to be the only three. Does it make any one of them great, (Marino excepted) or stat collectors?
 

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Trading up for RG3 is a much more manageable risk the trading for DW , same with trade ups for Patrick Ramsey or JC . Or bringing in Mcnab or george or Alex smith

We have taken risks to get better qbs it just hasnt worked out
 

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Where's "there?" It's a bullshit stat!! I've given the reasons why. More aren't on it because it's contrived bullshit. However, to be fair, what's the take from having this stat? What does it mean to be the only three. Does it make any one of them great, (Marino excepted) or stat collectors?
Passing for x amount of yds for x amount of tds in x amount of games is a standard of measure used throughout this game . And no one calls it a BS stat
 

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Passing for x amount of yds for x amount of tds in x amount of games is a standard of measure used throughout this game . And no one calls it a BS stat
Really?? Being the second all time all purpose yard record holder get you what in this league? There are plenty of stats that cannot be quantified because there's no way to go back in history in order to make the case that these new made up ones are legit. C'mon man you know this!!
 

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Really?? Being the second all time all purpose yard record holder get you what in this league? There are plenty of stats that cannot be quantified because there's no way to go back in history in order to make the case that these new made up ones are legit. C'mon man you know this!!
It is a standard of measure . What it gets you has no bearing on that
DW had a great season last year , it got him 4 wins
Does he suck dick ?
 

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All I know is AJ McCarron was great even though he does not have 50,000 yards and 250 TDs. :noidea: :pound:
 
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