NFL Network Reported Cincy Interviewing Geno Smith

[CrashDavisSports]

He will be a middle LB, who requires vision and the ability to read which gap is about to be penetrated, ability to shed blocks and take on larger blockers. He has to be smart enough to run a defense, make the calls, audible, be the brains on the field. He has "okay" speed for the MLB position, what has been in question is his ability to make decisions due to ability to rationalize his online situation that got him into trouble.

The 40 time doesn't bother me when you are a 250-260 lb MLB, what bothers me is his ability to make smart decisions. However, that was not on the football field either, so I am hoping instinctfully he can be a much smarter player on the field.

I mean seriously, when was the last time a MLB as considered for a Heisman Trophy? Football instincts can make a player smarter on the field even if his 40 time is a little less.

 

[cincygrad]

He will be a middle LB, who requires vision and the ability to read which gap is about to be penetrated, ability to shed blocks and take on larger blockers. He has to be smart enough to run a defense, make the calls, audible, be the brains on the field. He has "okay" speed for the MLB position, what has been in question is his ability to make decisions due to ability to rationalize his online situation that got him into trouble.

The 40 time doesn't bother me when you are a 250-260 lb MLB, what bothers me is his ability to make smart decisions. However, that was not on the football field either, so I am hoping instinctfully he can be a much smarter player on the field.

I mean seriously, when was the last time a MLB as considered for a Heisman Trophy? Football instincts can make a player smarter on the field even if his 40 time is a little less.

Brian Bosworth.

He was a good pro.

 

[Tubbs1518]

He will be a middle LB, who requires vision and the ability to read which gap is about to be penetrated, ability to shed blocks and take on larger blockers. He has to be smart enough to run a defense, make the calls, audible, be the brains on the field. He has "okay" speed for the MLB position, what has been in question is his ability to make decisions due to ability to rationalize his online situation that got him into trouble.

The 40 time doesn't bother me when you are a 250-260 lb MLB, what bothers me is his ability to make smart decisions. However, that was not on the football field either, so I am hoping instinctfully he can be a much smarter player on the field.

I mean seriously, when was the last time a MLB as considered for a Heisman Trophy? Football instincts can make a player smarter on the field even if his 40 time is a little less.

He has looked really good in the drills IMO. I'm starting to warm up to the ideal of him with our 1st pick in the 2nd round if he falls there. Play him at SAM LBer and them possibly instead of Burfict in the Nickle. He plays really well in zone but not as much in man.

Te'o really reminds me of James Lauranitis out of OSU a few years back. Coincidentally enough, I wanted Lauranitis instead of Maualuga and Lauranitis was picked like 2 picks ahead of us by the Rams.

 

[vancelot23]

I like Brown, but not sure I like him as our 1st round pick, and I am completely not sold on Cyprien, where there are probably 5 other S I would rather have before even looking at him, especially in the first where Vacarro, Reid and Elam would be available with our pick.

Wood is a decent WR, as you said, great hands, but Hunter is being compared to Julio Jones right now with the combine stats, plus his size and speed. Dude is a 6'4" burner with good hands. I honestly do not know how draft sites have him ranked as a 2nd to 3rd round WR, because I think he looks very solid as a late 1st to early second round WR pick.

Because scouts don't care about raw numbers in tights. As mentioned several times, everybody is fast these days. WRs are running 4.4s all day. They watch tape.

 

[vancelot23]

As for Brown and Cyprien, there's growing speculation that both will go top 20.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Because scouts don't care about raw numbers in tights. As mentioned several times, everybody is fast these days. WRs are running 4.4s all day. They watch tape.

I think their is a good chance Hunter is the best WR out of this draft, if he can get his mind into it. Patterson has a chance to be that as well if he can get his consistency together. I also really like Da'Rick Rodgers. Big, strong guy.

 

[Tubbs1518]

As for Brown and Cyprien, there's growing speculation that both will go top 20.

I've seen Cyprein go as high as 15 to STL.

 

[vancelot23]

Rogers would be a much higher pick if he weren't a moron.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Rogers would be a much higher pick if he weren't a moron.

Oh absolutely. Possible 1st rounder if he hadn't went retarded. From all reports he has seemed to turn himself around. Could be a steal. I think a WR like him is exactly what we could use. Go over the middle, offset Green and Jones.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I've seen Cyprein go as high as 15 to STL.

Well let's hope so, I rather it not be us that makes that mistake in the 1st round.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Well let's hope so, I rather it not be us that makes that mistake in the 1st round.

No mistake, dude is legit. You are the only person with anything bad to say about him.

 

[vancelot23]

Cyprien is going high. Not sure what you're watching, but scouts love him.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Cyprien is going high. Not sure what you're watching, but scouts love him.

He didn't like the INT against Louisville which all the scouts have been referring to as a great play this entire off season.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

He didn't like the INT against Louisville which all the scouts have been referring to as a great play this entire off season.

It is not about the INT, it is about his vision down in the trenches. He takes bad routes, gets pushed out of plays when in run defense. He doesn't wrap up, he goes for the knock out blow, which I freaking hate. He has good range, seems like a good CF'er, but I don't credit him with the INT as much as I do the QB who just hung it out there and gave Cy a chance to get there. The WR was open by 10 to 15 yards. If he threw it more on a rope, the WR would have been gone down the sidelines. I am not faulting him for getting an INT, I am just not giving him as much credit as some due to the fact I believed the QB f'ed up, not Cy making a great play. Besides, we have a FS in Nelson, what we need is a guy that can do both cover when needed and defend the run.

I am not confident enough in him personally. I am glad you guys are. I can hope we don't draft him, and you can hope we do. Since none of us call the shots, it doesn't really matter.

 

[Tubbs1518]

It is not about the INT, it is about his vision down in the trenches. He takes bad routes, gets pushed out of plays when in run defense. He doesn't wrap up, he goes for the knock out blow, which I freaking hate. He has good range, seems like a good CF'er, but I don't credit him with the INT as much as I do the QB who just hung it out there and gave Cy a chance to get there. The WR was open by 10 to 15 yards. If he threw it more on a rope, the WR would have been gone down the sidelines. I am not faulting him for getting an INT, I am just not giving him as much credit as some due to the fact I believed the QB f'ed up, not Cy making a great play. Besides, we have a FS in Nelson, what we need is a guy that can do both cover when needed and defend the run.

I am not confident enough in him personally. I am glad you guys are. I can hope we don't draft him, and you can hope we do. Since none of us call the shots, it doesn't really matter.

Not that I don't like your opinions, you have good thoughts, but everything you are saying is the exact opposite of all the scouts. I just can't feel like you have done your homework when you disagree that much with what everyone else is saying.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Not that I don't like your opinions, you have good thoughts, but everything you are saying is the exact opposite of all the scouts. I just can't feel like you have done your homework when you disagree that much with what everyone else is saying.

I just want you to watch the film link you provided of him against Louisville.

Watch how he goes for the knock out blow and does not wrap up when tackling. He takes poor angles when going for a tackle up near the line of scrimmage.

I will admit he looks like a decent CF'er range wise, but whose coverage was originally blown on the INT by him where the WR was wide open and the QB lofted it? Maybe he did make a great play on that if he was not responsible for the over the top coverage, but if he was, he is damn lucky the QB lofted the ball.

I watched that one game link you provided, and I was very unimpressed and it was against Louisville for shit sakes, not a Baltimore, Denver or New England team. I was not impressed with him at all, but that is just me. The thing that drove me most nuts about him is his lack of vision in the trenches, easily pushed out of the play and going for a knock out blow rather than a sure handed wrap up and drag down tackle.

As a 3rd or 4th round pick, I would be on board with it, but not 1st to high 2nd. No way.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I just want you to watch the film link you provided of him against Louisville.

Watch how he goes for the knock out blow and does not wrap up when tackling. He takes poor angles when going for a tackle up near the line of scrimmage.

I will admit he looks like a decent CF'er range wise, but whose coverage was originally blown on the INT by him where the WR was wide open and the QB lofted it? Maybe he did make a great play on that if he was not responsible for the over the top coverage, but if he was, he is damn lucky the QB lofted the ball.

I watched that one game link you provided, and I was very unimpressed and it was against Louisville for shit sakes, not a Baltimore, Denver or New England team. I was not impressed with him at all, but that is just me. The thing that drove me most nuts about him is his lack of vision in the trenches, easily pushed out of the play and going for a knock out blow rather than a sure handed wrap up and drag down tackle.

As a 3rd or 4th round pick, I would be on board with it, but not 1st to high 2nd. No way.

But see, every scout everywhere basically disagrees with you. I just can't take your opinion on him seriously. Especially when you still have Te'o as a top 10 pick. Like I said I respect your opinion, but in this instance I just can't take it seriously at all.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

But see, every scout everywhere basically disagrees with you. I just can't take your opinion on him seriously. Especially when you still have Te'o as a top 10 pick. Like I said I respect your opinion, but in this instance I just can't take it seriously at all.

And like I said, that is absolutely fine. You are not in the least required to agree with me on this. It is my opinion.

T'eo is still worthy of a top 10 pick, he just may not go that high. #1 MLB in the country, #2 overall LB in the country. Defensive leader on a National Championship contending team. Heisman trophy finalist as a MLB. 4 years of very solid numbers, including 7 INT's his senior season.

NFLDraftCountdown.com has him ranked as the #10 overall player in college football entering the draft. Does that mean much? No. but it is one guy who respects him enough to rank him there. NFL Draft countdown also has him going to the Steelers at #17. That is not a top 10 pick, but sometimes need over best available wins out in the top of the draft pushing guys down and his slower combine numbers pay hurt him a little bit. But there is no way he slides past 20 in my opinion, and no way in hell he ever gets by Cincinnati after letting Rey leave more than likely, Howard and Lawson free agents.

INDIANAPOLIS -- New York Giants general manager Jerry Reese said Saturday that the controversy surrounding Manti Te'o and the Internet girlfriend hoax won't prevent the Giants from considering drafting the Notre Dame linebacker, should they feel he falls. That is number 19.

Because he slides a little doesn't mean he is not a top 10 prospect.

 

[kramer1]

I don't respect any opinion here. Just FYI.

 

[cincygrad]

Te?o blames slow 40 time on Combine stress | ProFootballTalk

This dude seems more promising all the time.... An unathletic, gullible dude that has lapses in performances during stressful occasions.

I'm really not looking forward to having him on our team.