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[SlinkyRedfoot]

i did? did the sports webistes and the globe too?

Which website says they're comparable?

 

[msgkings322]

PS sale is missing a second start. i still think hes fine and this is intentional.

Yep, when you are rolling like the Red So you can afford to do this. If they were in a dogfight he'd be pitching

 

[Rock Strongo]

Which website says they're comparable?

the link i kinda posted n stuff?

 

[Rock Strongo]

Yep, when you are rolling like the Red So you can afford to do this. If they were in a dogfight he'd be pitching

yeah, "shoulder inflammation". hes resting. smart smart smart. he can start once a month going forward for all i care.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

the link i kinda posted n stuff?

You didn't post a single link that suggests that those two seasons are comparable.

 

[Rock Strongo]

You didn't post a single link that suggests that those two seasons are comparable.

uhhh. yeah i did. its what drove this?

 

[Rock Strongo]

gosh golly!!

its not just rock after all!

Let’s compare and contrast Pedro Martinez and Chris Sale | Boston.com


The informative Twitter feed @bostonsportsinf put together a chart Thursday of how Sale’s first 50 starts stack up to other prominent Red Sox pitchers over the last 40 years. He had nine fewer wins than Pedro over that stretch, and Pedro had the lower ERA in a hitter-happy time when pretty much no one other than him had a low ERA. But Sale’s WHIP, K/9, and K/BB rates were better. He’s not Pedro. But he’s done a lot of Pedro-like things, and only legends and aspiring legends can say that.

bump @SlinkyRedfoot

first 50 starts including this year.

sale leads in ERA, K's, FIP, ERA+, hits/9, k's/9,and WHIP this year

 

[Rock Strongo]

heres another link

Red Sox: How does Chris Sale match up with peak Pedro Martinez?

Only Legacy Separates Chris Sale From Pedro Martinez | CLNS Media

 

[Rock Strongo]

so yes, i provided a link and now 2 more. theres plenty more.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

lolz

Posting a bunch of links that don't support your position makes you look stupid.

 

[molsaniceman]

bump @SlinkyRedfoot

first 50 starts including this year.

sale leads in ERA, K's, FIP, ERA+, hits/9, k's/9,and WHIP this year

50 starts in 1 season no wonder Sale was worn out in sept.

 

[Rock Strongo]

50 starts in 1 season no wonder Sale was worn out in sept.

hes at 54 now, this is a few weeks old.

the other links are good too. apparently, i didnt provide any links. i just made it up n stuff.

 

[Rock Strongo]

lolz

Posting a bunch of links that don't support your position makes you look stupid.

you said i didnt provide links. i kinda did. now youre going in this direction, wholly unrelated to your prior statement which was proven incorrect.

and the links support my position. can you read?

so i didnt provide a link, which i did, and now its "well, yeah.,..but...uh...THEY DONT AGREE WITH YOU DUMMY!"

yet they do.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

hes at 54 now, this is a few weeks old.

the other links are good too. apparently, i didnt provide any links. i just made it up n stuff.

You provided plenty of links, the problem is that not a single one says that Sale's 2017 is comparable to Pedro's 1999, which is what you said.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

you said i didnt provide links. i kinda did. now youre going in this direction, wholly unrelated to your prior statement which was proven incorrect.

and the links support my position. can you read?

so i didnt provide a link, which i did, and now its "well, yeah.,..but...uh...THEY DONT AGREE WITH YOU DUMMY!"

yet they do.

So, which link says the two seasons are comparable?

 

[Peter Gozintite]

Which website says they're comparable?

I skipped 6 pages, and the conversation hasnt changed.

 

[Rock Strongo]

You provided plenty of links, the problem is that not a single one says that Sale's 2017 is comparable to Pedro's 1999, which is what you said.

yes they do. you apparently didnt read them.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I skipped 6 pages, and the conversation hasnt changed.

It's times like these that I have to come to terms with the fact that Rock's either just saying dumb shit to elicit responses, or is retarded.

I tend to think it's the former, but sometimes I wonder.

 

[Rock Strongo]

So, which link says the two seasons are comparable?

sure. i copied a section for you that you didnt read.

Martinez’s 1999 season may be the most dominant of all time. While his 2000 season had a higher ERA+ (291 vs 243) his 1999 season had a higher K/9, a lower HR/9, a lower FIP and a higher fWAR. (I like fWAR better for pitchers because it is based on FIP and not runs allowed.) And since Pedro pulled off the back-to-back-to back months of winning A.L. Pitcher of the Month in 1999, we’re going to use that as a comparison for what Sale is doing this season.

Pedro’s 1999 was just ridiculous. Over 213.1 IP, he managed a 2.07 ERA, a 1.39 FIP, with a 13.20 K/9 and a 1.56 BB/9.

Sale so far this season? A 2.04 ERA, 2.09 FIP, 13.21 K/9 and a 2.11 BB/9. While not quite matching Pedro’s 1999 season, it’s not a bad imitation. And his 216 OPS+ probably accurately captures the difference between their two years.

But the similarities don’t end there. Both HR/9’s are absurdly low with Pedro at 0.38 and Sale at 0.64. ERA- also looks a lot alike. Pedro was at 42 and Sale currently boasts a 47. ERA- is a park and league adjusted ERA metric similar to ERA+, only better than league average figures will be below 100 instead of above it. For context, anything lower than 70 is considered excellent.

they are
comparing
1999
vs
2018

 

[Rock Strongo]

sure. i copied a section for you that you didnt read.

Martinez’s 1999 season may be the most dominant of all time. While his 2000 season had a higher ERA+ (291 vs 243) his 1999 season had a higher K/9, a lower HR/9, a lower FIP and a higher fWAR. (I like fWAR better for pitchers because it is based on FIP and not runs allowed.) And since Pedro pulled off the back-to-back-to back months of winning A.L. Pitcher of the Month in 1999, we’re going to use that as a comparison for what Sale is doing this season.

Pedro’s 1999 was just ridiculous. Over 213.1 IP, he managed a 2.07 ERA, a 1.39 FIP, with a 13.20 K/9 and a 1.56 BB/9.

Sale so far this season? A 2.04 ERA, 2.09 FIP, 13.21 K/9 and a 2.11 BB/9. While not quite matching Pedro’s 1999 season, it’s not a bad imitation. And his 216 OPS+ probably accurately captures the difference between their two years.

But the similarities don’t end there. Both HR/9’s are absurdly low with Pedro at 0.38 and Sale at 0.64. ERA- also looks a lot alike. Pedro was at 42 and Sale currently boasts a 47. ERA- is a park and league adjusted ERA metric similar to ERA+, only better than league average figures will be below 100 instead of above it. For context, anything lower than 70 is considered excellent.

they are
comparing
1999
vs
2018

"umm, errr theyre comparing...wait a second...gotta go! done with this!"