NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[dtgold88]

Yep an owner that is willing to spend and let his employees do their job is a great owner

Yep....and the Tribe is proof you need both in most cases.

 

[fightinfunbags]

That is why having a shit owner is everything especially if they try to control everything and not let people do their job. Should be the GM with coaches input, not the owner.

There’s a fine line with this stuff. The Eagles owner Jeff Lurie is highly involved with the team’s football philosophy. That culture has remained intact since the late 90s early 2000s. It’s led to 3 Super Bowl trips and one world championship. They have hired guys without a big rep purposefully because they don’t want a head coach that wants to control personnel and the salary cap. Ray Rhodes, Andy Reid, Chip Kelly, Doug Pederson, and Nick Siriani are all guys who never had NFL head coaching jobs prior to coming to Philly. When they let Andy start having more say with personnel his regime started to go south. To a greater extent that happened in just one year when they acquiesced to the demands of Chip Kelly. So on the level of your personal experience directing your perspective, all Lurie has seen is that when he is more hands off on the operation the Eagles don’t do as well. They’ve been one of the more consistent NFC franchises under his ownership.

You need to have an owner that is invested and committed. What that investment and commitment looks like will vary from franchise to franchise. For instance, Jerry Jones like Lurie has been hands on in his ownership. But it really hasn’t worked for the Cowboys since Jones let Jimmy Johnson walk over personnel control dispute.

 

[trojanfan12]

No, but they were a bit overrated going in as well. They have top 10 talent, but outside of Boogie Ellis, they don't have a lot of experience. So, when they are in close games, they tend to resort to "hero ball" and that hasn't really worked.

Bronny (who has looked better than I thought he would) is still on a minutes restriction and Vince Iwuchukwu has been slow developing. Isaiah Collier is ridiculously talented but has been a bit slow on balancing his game between scoring and including his teammates. He's been the most guilty of playing hero ball and some of his decisions with the ball have been pretty suspect which has resulted in too many turnovers.

Also, they were depending on Kobe Johnson to take a step forward offensively this season, but other than flashes here and there, that hasn't really happened.

They just played arguably their best game of the season vs. Cal. They should continue to improve as the season goes on. Loosening Bronny's minutes restriction as the season goes on will help as so far, he seems to have a lot of his dad's basketball i.q.

I expect that late in the season they will be playing a lot closer to expectations, but if they don't start playing with the balance they just showed against Cal, they're going to put themselves in the position of having to win the PAC-12 tournament if they want to get into the NCAA tourney.

@bksballer89

So, I give you the above answer to your question yesterday.

And what happens...USC plays well, Kobe Johnson plays his best game of the year, but Bronny has an off game.

So, pretty much the opposite of what I said has been happening.

These damn kids today. Just can't depend on them. lol

 

[trojanfan12]

Not Baltimore but the other two would be fun. Or Cleveland.

Not Cleveland.

Last thing we need is Browns fans running amuck around here.

 

[tlance]

Not Cleveland.

Last thing we need is Browns fans running amuck around here.

To be fair, that will happen anyway.

 

[msgkings322]

Not Cleveland.

Last thing we need is Browns fans running amuck around here.

That ship has sailed

 

[Shanemansj13]

There’s a fine line with this stuff. The Eagles owner Jeff Lurie is highly involved with the team’s football philosophy. That culture has remained intact since the late 90s early 2000s. It’s led to 3 Super Bowl trips and one world championship. They have hired guys without a big rep purposefully because they don’t want a head coach that wants to control personnel and the salary cap. Ray Rhodes, Andy Reid, Chip Kelly, Doug Pederson, and Nick Siriani are all guys who never had NFL head coaching jobs prior to coming to Philly. When they let Andy start having more say with personnel his regime started to go south. To a greater extent that happened in just one year when they acquiesced to the demands of Chip Kelly. So on the level of your personal experience directing your perspective, all Lurie has seen is that when he is more hands off on the operation the Eagles don’t do as well. They’ve been one of the more consistent NFC franchises under his ownership.

You need to have an owner that is invested and committed. What that investment and commitment looks like will vary from franchise to franchise. For instance, Jerry Jones like Lurie has been hands on in his ownership. But it really hasn’t worked for the Cowboys since Jones let Jimmy Johnson walk over personnel control dispute.

Of course there is a line but the owner does not need to control everything is the point but still involved. That is what great owners do. Who knows what happened with Carolina but as we all see the Tepper guy is a looney

 

[Shanemansj13]

My buddy sent me this. Insane

 

[fightinfunbags]

Of course there is a line but the owner does not need to control everything is the point but still involved. That is what great owners do. Who knows what happened with Carolina but as we all see the Tepper guy is a looney

No doubt. He scapegoated Reich for actually having the right evaluation with Stroud. A successful person learns from that and grants Reich’s opinion greater deference. Instead, Tepper lacked self confidence so he wanted Reich out.

 

[thunderc]

My buddy sent me this. Insane

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I would think that guy has settled by now

 

[bksballer89]

Defense getting lit up and they are really talking about trading Lattimore lol

Who gets lit up by the Falcons offense?

Terrible front office

 

[bksballer89]

Mixon got his incentive early

2 TDS to get a mil

Job done

 

[thunderc]

Mixon got his incentive early

2 TDS to get a mil

Job done

I’m watching my 18th week of as many nfl games as possible. Hoping the incentives kick in.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Ridder 5 of 5 for 157 yards with 2 TD's.

 

[thunderc]

Ridder 5 of 5 for 157 yards with 2 TD's.

You crowning him?

 

[DJ Fieri]

You crowning him?

Nope.

Just waiting to see how NO's lack of defense today will be Carr's fault since he does not play defense.

 

[thunderc]

Titans not rolling over for the Jags

 

[bksballer89]

A 3rd and 6 run with your season on the line is comical

Got to at least fire this guy since you have to bring back Carr and Allen

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Jags D be like nah on the playoffs

 

[bksballer89]

The Panthers offense did not improve at all from september to now