Name Change

[countryroads316]

Washington Red Feathers?

 

[chillerdab]

Image of an American Indian, designed and created by an American Indian, approved of by American Indians, and the correct nickname given to themselves is now offensive because white and black liberals told the American Indian they are too stupid to realize they should be offended.

Washington Redskins Primary Logo | Sports Logo History

Correction: White and black CEO's - who may or may not be liberal (you keep doing that, but you are probably wrong about it) - determined they were going to lose money by supporting the Redskins then they deemed acceptable, and applied pressure on the majority owner to change the name.

Capitalism.

 

[countryroads316]

 

[countryroads316]

 

[chillerdab]

Ok chiller since you may not have heard the left and some NA leaders don’t want NA imagery either . It wasn’t enough to get rid of the slur they said the logo was demeaning as well according to good ole Rebecca

Who the fuck is Rebecca?

Is she related to Karen?

 

[Sportster 72]

I believe the helmet with the "R" was only used for three years. Lombardi brought it they created it for him to be similar to the Packers logo. The profile on the current helmet has been used since 1972.

 

[chillerdab]

Redtails would be a great name.
Warriors would be a great name too, but you couldn't have any NA emblems or symbols. Perhaps the team could have modern warrior symbols - modern soldiers of one kind or another.

Some people are going to cry about any change, because it is a change.

"I'm never going to watch football again if the team does _______."
"I'm going to be done with the team completely if the team changes it's name to ____________."

Lighten up, Francis. Nobody believes you. You'll be back in a month or so, just like you always have been EVERY TIME you make the same kind of stand.

"Boycott ______ because they like show something I disagree with!"
"I'll never shop there again!!"

 

[Rowdy]

Redtails would be a great name.
Warriors would be a great name too, but you couldn't have any NA emblems or symbols. Perhaps the team could have modern warrior symbols - modern soldiers of one kind or another.

Some people are going to cry about any change, because it is a change.

"I'm never going to watch football again if the team does _______."
"I'm going to be done with the team completely if the team changes it's name to ____________."

Lighten up, Francis. Nobody believes you. You'll be back in a month or so, just like you always have been EVERY TIME you make the same kind of stand.

"Boycott ______ because they like show something I disagree with!"
"I'll never shop there again!!"

Ok AOC, just try it and see what happens.

 

[Rowdy]

Are all these fucking liberals claiming victory for themselves or the Indians? That’s the real question

 

[chillerdab]

Image of an American Indian, designed and created by an American Indian, approved of by American Indians, and the correct nickname given to themselves is now offensive because white and black liberals told the American Indian they are too stupid to realize they should be offended.

Washington Redskins Primary Logo | Sports Logo History

Another thing:

Walter "Blackie" Wetzel, who created the original logo, was a member of the Blackfoot Tribe from MONTANA. While it's true that there are some NA that are ok with "Redskins" being the team name as you said in the above quote (namely the Blackfeet, who take pride that one of their own is the creator of the logo, and the model for the helmet), there are quite a few other NA's that view "Redskins" as a slur.

The Oneida nation, for example, who started this website:
Change The Mascot - Launched By The Oneida Indian Nation

Here's their fact sheet, for you to read:
https://www.changethemascot.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ChangeTheMascotFactSheet2016.pdf

Here's a poll from this year, that suggests that the number of offended NA's is much higher than previously reported:
Washington Redskins’ name, Native mascots offend more than previously reported

Finally, Walter Wetzel's son thinks that changing the name itself isnt' all bad. Here is his quote from the following article:
Native American son of Redskins logo designer says it's not offensive, calls the change 'hard'

“The Native Americans were forgotten people. That logo, lets people know these people exist," Wetzel said. "If it were changed and it removed any derogatory feelings toward any person, then I think it’s a win. I don’t want that logo to be associated in a negative way, ever.”


So while it's true that the logo was designed and created by a NA, and approved by SOME NA, almost 50 years ago, it is also a nickname that has been offensive to some NA all along, an increasing amount of NA that was previously reported, and a change in name has the approval of the son of the original logo's creator.

LIke everything else in life, things are rarely "black or white."

 

[chillerdab]

Ok AOC, just try it and see what happens.

Try what, exactly, big boy?

 

[chillerdab]

Are all these fucking liberals claiming victory for themselves or the Indians? That’s the real question

Who's claiming victory, snowflake?

 

[Breed]

Who the fuck is Rebecca?

Is she related to Karen?

Nice ^^^^^

 

[countryroads316]

Fuck it just name them the

Washington RedKings

 

[skinsdad62]

Who the fuck is Rebecca?

Is she related to Karen?

Roy halbiter and Rebecca Hagel

 

[Rowdy]

Try what, exactly, big boy?

Naming the team Split tails or some other stupid ass name.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

I was hoping the name change would get rid of our bad luck and give us some good vibes . NOPE Harmon out for year same ole same ole shit ..

 

[reptec101]

Redtails would be a great name.
Warriors would be a great name too, but you couldn't have any NA emblems or symbols. Perhaps the team could have modern warrior symbols - modern soldiers of one kind or another.

Are you insane? Get the fuck away from anything Indian. They had their shot.

Modern soldier? The only soldier symbol a certain party would not have a problem with is that of an ISIS fighter, and a modern day warrior? You mean like a Ninja. Listen, I pray they name the team after an animal. Last I checked only time their whining in the wild is when they're horny as hell. Hope they go with something like The Washington Black Rats... or Mud Rats Or Swamp Rats. Now they would be a cool name with bad ass uni's. Fucking Snyder hear my cry!!

 

[gkekoa]

Another thing:

Walter "Blackie" Wetzel, who created the original logo, was a member of the Blackfoot Tribe from MONTANA. While it's true that there are some NA that are ok with "Redskins" being the team name as you said in the above quote (namely the Blackfeet, who take pride that one of their own is the creator of the logo, and the model for the helmet), there are quite a few other NA's that view "Redskins" as a slur.

The Oneida nation, for example, who started this website:
Change The Mascot - Launched By The Oneida Indian Nation

Here's their fact sheet, for you to read:
https://www.changethemascot.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ChangeTheMascotFactSheet2016.pdf

Here's a poll from this year, that suggests that the number of offended NA's is much higher than previously reported:
Washington Redskins’ name, Native mascots offend more than previously reported

Finally, Walter Wetzel's son thinks that changing the name itself isnt' all bad. Here is his quote from the following article:
Native American son of Redskins logo designer says it's not offensive, calls the change 'hard'

“The Native Americans were forgotten people. That logo, lets people know these people exist," Wetzel said. "If it were changed and it removed any derogatory feelings toward any person, then I think it’s a win. I don’t want that logo to be associated in a negative way, ever.”


So while it's true that the logo was designed and created by a NA, and approved by SOME NA, almost 50 years ago, it is also a nickname that has been offensive to some NA all along, an increasing amount of NA that was previously reported, and a change in name has the approval of the son of the original logo's creator.

LIke everything else in life, things are rarely "black or white."

If you offended by a word that your own people created, your own people embraced, that nobody today uses except to refer to a football team, and that your own people have nicknamed certain schools redskins...

you are a pansy ass bitch that needs to grow up. Stop being offended by things that don’t matter at all.

If you want to know offensive, look at that piece of shit Nick Cannon.

 

[gkekoa]

Are you insane? Get the fuck away from anything Indian. They had their shot.

Modern soldier? The only soldier symbol a certain party would not have a problem with is that of an ISIS fighter, and a modern day warrior? You mean like a Ninja. Listen, I pray they name the team after an animal. Last I checked only time their whining in the wild is when they're horny as hell. Hope they go with something like The Washington Black Rats... or Mud Rats Or Swamp Rats. Now they would be a cool name with bad ass uni's. Fucking Snyder hear my cry!!

Well, if we name them after an animal, eventually PETA will be pissed.

What are we going to do when they change the name of Washington because he was a white dude?


Everybody needs to stop with the PC BS and get over it. Black people in the US today face no obstacles greater than anybody else in the US, at least based on skin color. Indians face no issues based on being Indians. All the constant whining and bitching does is create hostility against “your people.” Look into a mirror and be the change.

Stop aborting your children, stop having children outside of marriage, stop committing crimes, get an education or learn a trade, and stop counting on others to lift you up. This isn’t racist because it is written to ALL PEOPLE because ALL LIVES MATTER, if they are goo people. If not, they need to dig their own grave.