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[deanpet21]

According to ESPN Redskins reporter John Keim, there's a "good chance" impending free agent Kirk Cousins will earn more than Andrew Luck on his next contract.

Luck, of course, signed the largest contract in NFL history last offseason. That deal was for six years and $140 million with a whopping $87 million in guaranteed money. That's a ton of dough, but Cousins should have a chance to top that if he and the Redskins reach a long-term deal this offseason. With salary caps on the rise, Derek Carr, Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford could all be looking at enormous paydays in the very near future. It's a good time to be an NFL franchise quarterback.


Source: ESPN.com
Feb 11 - 9:59 AM


I remember some people on here didn't think he would get more than Luck. Im not naming any names. lol

 

[skinsdad62]

According to ESPN Redskins reporter John Keim, there's a "good chance" impending free agent Kirk Cousins will earn more than Andrew Luck on his next contract.

Luck, of course, signed the largest contract in NFL history last offseason. That deal was for six years and $140 million with a whopping $87 million in guaranteed money. That's a ton of dough, but Cousins should have a chance to top that if he and the Redskins reach a long-term deal this offseason. With salary caps on the rise, Derek Carr, Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford could all be looking at enormous paydays in the very near future. It's a good time to be an NFL franchise quarterback.


Source: ESPN.com
Feb 11 - 9:59 AM


I remember some people on here didn't think he would get more than Luck. Im not naming any names. lol

so what ? in a few years KC's contract will be obsolete too

 

[deanpet21]

so what ? in a few years KC's contract will be obsolete too

I know. Just an update.

 

[skinsdad62]

ryan , carr and stafford will blow away KC's contract

 

[Sharkinva]

Give Kirk a blank check, two weeks after he signs it some one will get a blank check that goes for MORE than what Cousins gets.

OR we could go the other route and deal Cousins and draft one of the subpar QBs in this draft and spend another twenty years throwing resources at the position and wondering why the entire team sucks.

Of the two options... IM willing to kick in $100 towards keeping Kirk long term. Who's with me??

 

[Skin'EmAll]

If I'm

Give Kirk a blank check, two weeks after he signs it some one will get a blank check that goes for MORE than what Cousins gets.

OR we could go the other route and deal Cousins and draft one of the subpar QBs in this draft and spend another twenty years throwing resources at the position and wondering why the entire team sucks.

Of the two options... IM willing to kick in $100 towards keeping Kirk long term. Who's with me??

As Fan, the fantasy front office -- we will know in a few days if Cousins will be our QB or not.

 

[j_y19]

According to ESPN Redskins reporter John Keim, there's a "good chance" impending free agent Kirk Cousins will earn more than Andrew Luck on his next contract.

Luck, of course, signed the largest contract in NFL history last offseason. That deal was for six years and $140 million with a whopping $87 million in guaranteed money. That's a ton of dough, but Cousins should have a chance to top that if he and the Redskins reach a long-term deal this offseason. With salary caps on the rise, Derek Carr, Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford could all be looking at enormous paydays in the very near future. It's a good time to be an NFL franchise quarterback.


Source: ESPN.com
Feb 11 - 9:59 AM


I remember some people on here didn't think he would get more than Luck. Im not naming any names. lol

What is your point? You are obsessed with how much Cousins is going to get. Is that all that matters to you? Does the prospect of not having an NFL caliber QB concern you at all or are you only concerned with who was right and who was wrong?

 

[deanpet21]

What is your point? You are obsessed with how much Cousins is going to get. Is that all that matters to you? Does the prospect of not having an NFL caliber QB concern you at all or are you only concerned with who was right and who was wrong?

My point is some [people who post on here said he wont get more than Luck. Simple as that.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

im sure no deal will get done intell the combine or during the combine or after

 

[Sharkinva]

Quit comparing Kirk Cousins' future deal to Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady
Feb 9, 2017

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  John KeimESPN Staff Writer

Legitimate arguments exist for what Washington Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins should make -- or not make -- in his next contract. The debate centers around one central issue: Do you view him as a top-10 passer (or close to it) or a guy who mostly benefits from his surrounding talent?

But two arguments don’t make sense, and they seem to pop up, at least from a fan's perspective, whenever this topic is broached.

Aaron Rodgers

If the only measuring stick were who’s better, then nobody except New England’s Tom Brady should be paid more than the Green Bay quarterback. Baltimore’s Joe Flacco, coming off knee surgery, signed a contract extension last March that paid him more per year than Rodgers. Yes, Flacco once won a Super Bowl, but he’s not better than Rodgers.

“He’s a great case of it being timing and leverage,” said Joel Corry, a former NFL agent who is considered a salary-cap expert, about Flacco's deal.

That’s how it works in every sport. Timing is everything. Also, if Rodgers and Cousins were free agents in the same offseason? Their salaries wouldn’t be close; Rodgers would make a lot more.

Also, Rodgers signed his deal in 2013, when the salary cap was $123 million. Cousins will sign his in 2017, when the cap could reach $168 million. Percentage of cap space matters more. And by 2019, estimates are the cap will reach $190 million.

The benchmark will be Andrew Luck’s deal with Indianapolis signed in June, giving him an average of $24.6 million per year (with $87 million in guaranteed money, $60 million fully guaranteed).

“There’s a point, always,” Corry said of when demands don’t match value. “But I don’t think Kirk Cousins trying to top Luck is that point. We’ve seen this year, if you don’t have a quarterback, you’re not going to go that far. You can do it with Trent Dilfer, but you have to have a great defense. That’s a harder route to go, and the Redskins don’t have a great defense.”

The last point on this, from Corry: If other quarterbacks such as Atlanta’s Matt Ryan, Oakland’s Derek Carr and Detroit’s Matthew Stafford get extensions this offseason, they would (or should) top Cousins’ contract. So by the end of the offseason, Cousins’ average salary per year would be fourth, at best. None of these quarterbacks are better than Rodgers. At this point, though, Rodgers would be eighth on the money list.

Tom Brady took less, why not Cousins?

The New England quarterback makes less per year than 21 other quarterbacks. Think about that for a minute. But the Patriots also use that to reduce salaries elsewhere. If the best player on a team takes less, then so should others. That means, for example, Redskins cornerback Josh Norman and left tackle Trent Williams would not be making what they do. Both will count more against the cap in 2017 than Brady.

“That’s something nobody else is going to do on a regular basis,” Corry said of Brady. “You don’t even see guys on third contracts doing anything remotely close. Eli [Manning] and Philip [Rivers] and Ben [Roethlisberger] all got market deals when they got their second bite of the apple. Even Drew Brees did not give New Orleans a discount.

“I guarantee if you got the [players’] union to be honest, they would express displeasure. The fact that [Brady] didn’t get fair market value impacts the quarterback market. ... That comes up in other negotiations with other players, where a team talks about how Tom didn’t maximize every dollar, and they use it as a point why other players shouldn’t.”

Brady also happens to be married to a supermodel, Gisele Bundchen, who made a reported $30.5 million last year, according to Forbes.

“Nobody else is in a position where they may have had to sign a pre-nup,” Corry said of other quarterbacks.

There are also other questions about whether or not Brady benefits in other ways, according to the Boston Globe, allowing him to take less money. Former New England tight end Christian Fauria once said, according to The Lead: “There is no way Tom Brady is going to take less money just to be a good guy. He’s looking at all those other salaries and he’s competitive and he knows he’s better than those other guys and in the end, I don’t care how we draw it up, I don’t care where you put the zeros or how you differ the money, I’m going to get paid more than those guys. Figure it out.”

That’s not to say Cousins should squeeze every dollar out of the Redskins. He has said he doesn’t want to do so. If he truly wants to stay in Washington, he’ll do a fair deal. Of course, the two sides could disagree on what they view as fair. And that’s reasonable.

“I don’t think it’s very persuasive to say, 'Take less money,'" Corry said. "Teams can always ask you to take a pay cut. They never gratuitously give you a raise."

 

[j_y19]

My point is some [people who post on here said he wont get more than Luck. Simple as that.

So what?

 

[SoCalWizFan]

My point is some [people who post on here said he wont get more than Luck. Simple as that.

If I am one of those people - great - who gives a shit. If it helps make the team better then whatever. You are apparently obsessed by this whole topic.

 

[deanpet21]

If I am one of those people - great - who gives a shit. If it helps make the team better then whatever. You are apparently obsessed by this whole topic.

no. you weren't one of those people. There we posters on here that said he wouldn't get near the guarantee money that Luck got. that is all im saying. calm down people.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

no. you weren't one of those people. There we posters on here that said he wouldn't get near the guarantee money that Luck got. that is all im saying. calm down people.

Cool. I hope that this gets resolved relatively soon. Kind of getting sick of this story & would love to hear news about the Redskins making other moves.

 

[skinsdad62]

we have about 16 days before the FA period begins socal , so hopefully we will have something

 

[skinsdad62]

Important dates to know for Kirk Cousins, Redskins and franchise tag

here are the big dates

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Redskins' window to ensure Kirk Cousins' return opens Wednesday

Really liked reading this in this ESPN article about Cousins:

There are others paying attention to what happens. Multiple agents have said they would like to have their player sign with Washington -- if Cousins sticks around. How widespread is that sentiment? That’s hard to say, and money comes into play as well, but it is the thinking of at least some. In their eyes, Cousins is a solid quarterback.

Hopefully they extend him soon & this at least gives them the chance to upgrade the team (or perhaps retain at least one of their FA WRs).

 

[skinsdad62]

Redskins' window to ensure Kirk Cousins' return opens Wednesday

Really liked reading this in this ESPN article about Cousins:

There are others paying attention to what happens. Multiple agents have said they would like to have their player sign with Washington -- if Cousins sticks around. How widespread is that sentiment? That’s hard to say, and money comes into play as well, but it is the thinking of at least some. In their eyes, Cousins is a solid quarterback.

Hopefully they extend him soon & this at least gives them the chance to upgrade the team (or perhaps retain at least one of their FA WRs).

hopefully

 

[skinsdad62]

Redskins may only have weeks, not months, to sign Cousins


the big thing here from the emotional over reaction crap is the transition tag in 2018 at 28 to 29 mil guaranteed not 34 . . he could negotiate with other teams , the skins could match the offer , if not the size of the contract would give us a 3rd round compensatory pick

 

[Breed]

According to ESPN Redskins reporter John Keim, there's a "good chance" impending free agent Kirk Cousins will earn more than Andrew Luck on his next contract.

Luck, of course, signed the largest contract in NFL history last offseason. That deal was for six years and $140 million with a whopping $87 million in guaranteed money. That's a ton of dough, but Cousins should have a chance to top that if he and the Redskins reach a long-term deal this offseason. With salary caps on the rise, Derek Carr, Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford could all be looking at enormous paydays in the very near future. It's a good time to be an NFL franchise quarterback.

I remember some people on here didn't think he would get more than Luck. Im not naming any names. lol

Just like they tweaked the rookie contracts. They need to tweak this bullshit for QBs. This is just fukin ridiculous.