That's a hard pass on trading for Vlad on a contract year cause we all know Seattle won't pony up the money for a new contract so it's not worth giving up top prospects.
I was going to say the same as jersey. One year then he walks because we won't pay anything close for him nor would I want us to. I think he is hugely overrated.
Ownership would declare bankruptcy if they gave Vlad what he wanted. Hmm...maybe that's the best way to force them to sell.
Agree, I’m not against rentals though. Just not at the price they are talking about with the gap between the M’s and the World Series. I know I’m on an island with the Varitek/Lowe and Cruz Jr’s trades, they were a WS caliber team so I can still justify them in my mind
Overrated? He would have led the (full time... excludes Robles, who played 77 games, and had a better BA) M's in Batting Average by 50 points and slugging by 80 points last year, and that isn't even his best year (and he's only 25).
You think a guy who thinks he is worth more than $500 million isn’t overrated? I think the guy is good but if he had a different last name I don’t think anyone would peg him as a superstar
2nd in the Majors in OPS in 2021 and 6th last year; I'm not sure how that isn't a Superstar. Worth $500 million or not, I'd be thrilled if the M's went and spent that on him (a commitment to try to win...)
1- Those numbers were with Toronto not Seattle. Apples to oranges.
So... you'd rather have what we have?
But that’s kind of the point. He is years removed from being a superstar. I guess I haven’t looked at his overall numbers last year but I don’t recall anyone talking about him being a MVP.
Kind of disagree with Ohtani though. Sure his contract is ridiculous but the Dodgers are making bank from Japanese advertisers and Japanese Americans, most likely guaranteed Japanese tourists coming over to catch a game. Plus got the two best pitchers out of Japan and most likely will get that 3B who should be posted.
Ichiro didn't come close to that kind of coin and I would assume he got the Japanese advertisers and Japanese Americans flying in for games to go along with Japanese tourists. No one person is worth 700mil to play baseball.
I would rather be realistic. M's entire roster won't make $500+M over the next whatever years so why pay one guy that? It makes zero sense. They wouldn't sign a guy for $50M for 2 years. Unless you are the Dodgers or Mets, any other team signing him has no room for any other solid vet players. He is not worth being the only guy on a roster with limit talent around him. So unless Bezos buys the M's tomorrow and commits to a $300M yearly payroll, this makes zero sense.
I want to return to this because I've had a few minutes to look at some numbers:
Well yeah Ichiro didn’t because no players were getting it. The Mariners made bank off of Ichiro though. And I still don’t get how the Mariners went from the team where most Japanese players wanted to come to, to not even getting a meeting.
I don't believe any player is worth $500M+. Just because it is getting to be the norm doesn't mean we should do it. And if we were to, Vlad would not be high on my list to give it to. I would have been fine trading for him last deadline if the trade price was right, but not now with his contract situation or the price it would take to get him.
Its alright to disagree, and we're going to disagree on this one... because it is the norm, we need to be doing it, or we are never going to compete (unless and until they implement a Salary Cap & Salary Floor... which, if the stupid contracts that we are now seeing don't lead to that, nothing ever will).
