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WHy is it everyone Sports Center shows a highlight praising Cabrera for hitting yet another HR or a triple I Just roll my eyes and think, it's just the juice.

ESPN goes nuts over these steroid and HGH scandals, yet they praise the cheaters. There should be a rule, you get busted with cheating you don't get highlights or mentioned.

So much cleaning up to do in MLB.
 

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There is zero proof Miguel Cabrera has ever used steroids, and he's never failed a drug test. So how can you call him out for juicing?
 

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There is zero proof Miguel Cabrera has ever used steroids, and he's never failed a drug test. So how can you call him out for juicing?

You seriously think this dude is clean? C'mon man. Look at his stats.
 

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You seriously think this dude is clean? C'mon man. Look at his stats.


How about those of us who choose to embrace the most basic principle of our legal system; innocent until PROVEN guilty?
 

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FACT: Any amazing hitter in baseball is and will continue to be labeled as juicers until the MLB gets their shit together and starts to actually lay the hammer down and clean up their act.

In fact, it will probably be good for the sport, maybe start change if wide range of people started claiming this, and even better if it so happens Cabrera is clean, then you have a mass majority of people screaming that this guy is cheating (Because of the lack of MLB rules and past history of other recent great hitters being caught juicing) yet he isn't, causing his reputation and his name to be tarnished. You might start to get change.

But until MLB does something, any amazingly great hitter is going to be labeled as roids.
 

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You seriously think this dude is clean? C'mon man. Look at his stats.

He's a generational player. He's been dominant since he first made it to the big leagues. It's not like his production suddenly spiked one year. Again, there's zero evidence and he's never failed a test. Innocent till proven guilty.
 

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FACT: Any amazing hitter in baseball is and will continue to be labeled as juicers until the MLB gets their shit together and starts to actually lay the hammer down and clean up their act.

In fact, it will probably be good for the sport, maybe start change if wide range of people started claiming this, and even better if it so happens Cabrera is clean, then you have a mass majority of people screaming that this guy is cheating (Because of the lack of MLB rules and past history of other recent great hitters being caught juicing) yet he isn't, causing his reputation and his name to be tarnished. You might start to get change.

But until MLB does something, any amazingly great hitter is going to be labeled as roids.

Actually, the vast majority aren't screaming that he's cheating. In fact, anyone who knows baseball doesn't. Not even rivals of Detroit. Seriously, stop posting about shit you know nothing about.
 

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He's a generational player. He's been dominant since he first made it to the big leagues. It's not like his production suddenly spiked one year. Again, there's zero evidence and he's never failed a test. Innocent till proven guilty.

How easy is it to pass the drug tests? How many MLB players have passed them yet found later to be guilty, or continue to be brought up in reports for HGH and other PEDs? Braun, A-Rod continued to pass drug tests yet finally it appears it might catch up to them.

If you really want to be naïve about the issues in the MLB and these top players, then I guess it might help you enjoy the sport more. But if you want to be realistic about the whole thing then think with some common sense.
 

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LOL Mark McGuire passed drug tests, so did Bonds. I guess they are clean huh?
 

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How easy is it to pass the drug tests? How many MLB players have passed them yet found later to be guilty, or continue to be brought up in reports for HGH and other PEDs? Braun, A-Rod continued to pass drug tests yet finally it appears it might catch up to them.

If you really want to be naïve about the issues in the MLB and these top players, then I guess it might help you enjoy the sport more. But if you want to be realistic about the whole thing then think with some common sense.

Again, there's no evidence. Innocent till proven guilty. Why can't he just be that good?

:stfu:
 

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by your logic Barry Bonds is innocent and completely clean. OK then.
 

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LOL Mark McGuire passed drug tests, so did Bonds. I guess they are clean huh?

Miguel Cabrera never hit 70+ HR's. If he was juicing, he would crush that number easily.
 

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By your logic, every MVP is juicing. Shut up dumbass.

there is a great chance they are, dating back to 2000's.

so you're admitting you think Barry Bonds is clean as clean can be.

Wow, your life must be so awesome. Innocence is really bliss.
 

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there is a great chance they are, dating back to 2000's.

so you're admitting you think Barry Bonds is clean as clean can be.

Wow, your life must be so awesome. Innocence is really bliss.

Once again, were not talking about a guy hitting 73 home runs. You know absolutely nothing about baseball. Quit trying to talk about it.
 

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there is a great chance they are, dating back to 2000's.

so you're admitting you think Barry Bonds is clean as clean can be.

Wow, your life must be so awesome. Innocence is really bliss.

Your posts in this thread are the epitome of ignorance.
 
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There were non-test-related physical indications Bonds was juicing. They don't exist for Cabrera. Ergo, we can, for now, assume he's clean.

But if you actually watch Cabrera hit, you will see something remarkable which is unrelated to strength. His approach is incredible. Few players today command the strike zone and "go with the pitch" as well as Cabrera. Even fewer combine that skill set with tremendous contact skills. He's a great hitter not because he's strong (though he is strong), and certainly not because he's fit (he is not, by conventional terms, fit), but because he centers the ball a lot and hits it to the perfect spot.

To me, only Joey Votto compares in terms of contact skill and approach. Cabrera just has a lot more raw power than Votto, which is what makes Cabrera the best hitter in the game. But that power is not beyond the realm of reason like Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, etc.
 
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