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Game Thread: Maryland @ Nebraska

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I see @Exorbitant is back to insisting he's the smartest guy in the room...
Is not.. I said gravity would exist this afternoon and right after that I dropped my beer and it fell...DOWN.
Did you hear what I said. This is science dude here. I said there would be gravity and right after that it fell DOWN. You know what that means? I'm not saying I am the smartesst guy here but I'm pretty sure no one else did that.
 

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I see @Exorbitant is back to insisting he's the smartest guy in the room...

I guess OSU with their overwhelmingly large talent gap over Nebraska, sure showed an awesome display of power today didn't they? LMAO!!!

By the way, at least I can see that Nebraska was way more outcoached against OSU, than outplayed.
 

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Is not.. I said gravity would exist this afternoon and right after that I dropped my beer and it fell...DOWN.
Did you hear what I said. This is science dude here. I said there would be gravity and right after that it fell DOWN. You know what that means? I'm not saying I am the smartesst guy here but I'm pretty sure no one else did that.
Yeah your like Isaac Hayes or something.
 

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Is not.. I said gravity would exist this afternoon and right after that I dropped my beer and it fell...DOWN.
Did you hear what I said. This is science dude here. I said there would be gravity and right after that it fell DOWN. You know what that means? I'm not saying I am the smartesst guy here but I'm pretty sure no one else did that.
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I guess OSU with their overwhelmingly large talent gap over Nebraska, sure showed an awesome display of power today didn't they? LMAO!!!

By the way, at least I can see that Nebraska was way more outcoached against OSU, than outplayed.
Yes, because we all know college football teams play the exact same every single week (and at home or on the road too!) and so if team A beats team B and team B beats team C that means that every time team A will beat team C.
 

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Yes, because we all know college football teams play the exact same every single week (and at home or on the road too!) and so if team A beats team B and team B beats team C that means that every time team A will beat team C.

Oh that's real intelligent. I've said myself before that a team can be sky high for a game and then be flat for their next game, and their next opponent can be sky high and when they play a poorly prepared team like Nebraska was against OSU, that WILL result in disaster. A competitive and well prepared Nebraska team that night would most likely have still lost by 17 to 21 points and very possibly still be in the top ten in the polls presently.

Since it's convenient for you to overlook the competitiveness of the Northwestern vs OSU game, that really was a part of this whole equation, even though I do know that comparative scores can be misleading. There are tons of variables involved in different team matchups, but since that game was a relevant part of our game with OSU, than just about everyone knows except you that Nebraska should not have been blown out by OSU.

Oh well, looking back at Riley's history, his teams at Oregon State did receive a boatload of blowouts, so I'm sure we'll see a few more within the next few years. For crying out loud, Nebraska was blown out by the last place team last season!
 

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Yes, because we all know college football teams play the exact same every single week (and at home or on the road too!) and so if team A beats team B and team B beats team C that means that every time team A will beat team C.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the awesome number OSU did to Michigan State, you know that 3 win powerhouse! Come on now, I know that Michigan State has given OSU some tough games the last few years, but if OSU is so overwhelmingly more talented than Nebraska is, than they would not have had as much trouble as a down to the wire game with a Michigan State team that has really struggled this year. Oh but wait, OSUs second string players are all better than Nebraska's first string according to you!
 

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i think weather conditions equalized the OSU vs MSU game. it was cold/windy/snowing leaving both teams mostly running the rock. The little i watched Barrett couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. and to me that was the big difference, against us OSU didn't miss a lot of passes, our defense has been playing soft coverage all year to stop big plays and with some hope that the opposing QB won't hit every single throw. look at this MD game, there were guys open, but the QB would be off target so we'd get off the field.

offensively, MSU's o-line was just much better than ours. which was the real problem with our team against OSU. just too many damn 3 and outs which snow balled into their offense getting back onto the field.

do i think the coaching was great, no, not by any means, but I also think some of our talent limitations is what led to the big blowout.
 

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the awesome number OSU did to Michigan State, you know that 3 win powerhouse! Come on now, I know that Michigan State has given OSU some tough games the last few years, but if OSU is so overwhelmingly more talented than Nebraska is, than they would not have had as much trouble as a down to the wire game with a Michigan State team that has really struggled this year. Oh but wait, OSUs second string players are all better than Nebraska's first string according to you!
To your last point, here are some facts for you (all taken from OSU vs Nebraska depth charts for both teams):


OSU (second string)

Defense:
Avg star ranking: 3.89
Avg position ranking: 15.78
Unranked players: 2

Offense:
Avg star ranking: 3.82
Avg position ranking: 17.27
Unranked players:0

Overall:
Avg star ranking: 3.85
Avg position ranking: 16.6
Unranked players: 2

Nebraska (starters)

Defense:
Avg star ranking: 3.22
Avg position ranking: 52.67
Unranked players: 2

Offense:
Avg star ranking: 3.56
Avg position ranking: 30.33
Unranked players: 3

Overall:
Avg star ranking: 3.39
Avg position ranking: 41.50
Unranked players: 5

Those averages do not include the players that were unranked coming out of high school. If they had been ranked, they likely would have brought our averages down more so than OSU (we have 5 to their 2). Position by position, there are 5 of Nebraska's starters that were ranked higher than the backup at their position for OSU. Those players are Michael Rose-Ivey, Dedrick Young, Tanner Farmer, David Knevel, and Tommy Armstrong. I'd say my analysis that in general their second string is more talented was spot-on.
 

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To your last point, here are some facts for you (all taken from OSU vs Nebraska depth charts for both teams):


OSU (second string)

Defense:
Avg star ranking: 3.89
Avg position ranking: 15.78
Unranked players: 2

Offense:
Avg star ranking: 3.82
Avg position ranking: 17.27
Unranked players:0

Overall:
Avg star ranking: 3.85
Avg position ranking: 16.6
Unranked players: 2

Nebraska (starters)

Defense:
Avg star ranking: 3.22
Avg position ranking: 52.67
Unranked players: 2

Offense:
Avg star ranking: 3.56
Avg position ranking: 30.33
Unranked players: 3

Overall:
Avg star ranking: 3.39
Avg position ranking: 41.50
Unranked players: 5

Those averages do not include the players that were unranked coming out of high school. If they had been ranked, they likely would have brought our averages down more so than OSU (we have 5 to their 2). Position by position, there are 5 of Nebraska's starters that were ranked higher than the backup at their position for OSU. Those players are Michael Rose-Ivey, Dedrick Young, Tanner Farmer, David Knevel, and Tommy Armstrong. I'd say my analysis that in general their second string is more talented was spot-on.

On paper talent isn't the same as actual game playing talent. How many times have highly ranked players coming out of high school turned out to be duds?... Answer: Countless times.
 

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To your last point, here are some facts for you (all taken from OSU vs Nebraska depth charts for both teams):


OSU (second string)

Defense:
Avg star ranking: 3.89
Avg position ranking: 15.78
Unranked players: 2

Offense:
Avg star ranking: 3.82
Avg position ranking: 17.27
Unranked players:0

Overall:
Avg star ranking: 3.85
Avg position ranking: 16.6
Unranked players: 2

Nebraska (starters)

Defense:
Avg star ranking: 3.22
Avg position ranking: 52.67
Unranked players: 2

Offense:
Avg star ranking: 3.56
Avg position ranking: 30.33
Unranked players: 3

Overall:
Avg star ranking: 3.39
Avg position ranking: 41.50
Unranked players: 5

Those averages do not include the players that were unranked coming out of high school. If they had been ranked, they likely would have brought our averages down more so than OSU (we have 5 to their 2). Position by position, there are 5 of Nebraska's starters that were ranked higher than the backup at their position for OSU. Those players are Michael Rose-Ivey, Dedrick Young, Tanner Farmer, David Knevel, and Tommy Armstrong. I'd say my analysis that in general their second string is more talented was spot-on.

On paper talent isn't the same as actual game playing talent. How many times have highly ranked players coming out of high school turned out to be duds?... Answer: Countless times.

I got a pop up message saying to wait 18 seconds to post, and then I see two of the same posts! Amazing!
 

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i think weather conditions equalized the OSU vs MSU game. it was cold/windy/snowing leaving both teams mostly running the rock. The little i watched Barrett couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. and to me that was the big difference, against us OSU didn't miss a lot of passes, our defense has been playing soft coverage all year to stop big plays and with some hope that the opposing QB won't hit every single throw. look at this MD game, there were guys open, but the QB would be off target so we'd get off the field.

offensively, MSU's o-line was just much better than ours. which was the real problem with our team against OSU. just too many damn 3 and outs which snow balled into their offense getting back onto the field.

do i think the coaching was great, no, not by any means, but I also think some of our talent limitations is what led to the big blowout.


Weather conditions did play into it, but there were 4 or 5 teams that Nebraska beat that Michigan State were beaten by. Nebraska was just a WAY better team than Michigan State is. On the other hand, Urban Meyer's staff is worlds better then Riley's staff is. Will more talent down the road equalize things? I'm not convinced it will.
 

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On paper talent isn't the same as actual game playing talent. How many times have highly ranked players coming out of high school turned out to be duds?... Answer: Countless times.
So you're going to say a half a star difference across 22 players is because of "paper talent" and can just be ignored?
 

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So you're going to say a half a star difference across 22 players is because of "paper talent" and can just be ignored?

Well I guess if we had a half a star higher talent level than OSU, Riley would still most likely find a way to lose to Meyer. No, a half a star higher in talent can't be ignored, but I'm not convinced it made that much of a difference when Riley was just completely outmaneuvered against Urban's team.

Are you finished now with the grilling? Let's move on to the Iowa game. I believe Armstrong will start. Hopefully he can last the whole game because of his game experience mainly, and his running ability. If he does start, there better be some scoring by Nebraska early in case he gets reinjured. A double digit lead going into the 4th quarter would sure be nice for once. By the way, I have a funny feeling that Minnesota will do their part, and it will be up to Riley to do his part to get Nebraska to the title game.
 

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Well I guess if we had a half a star higher talent level than OSU, Riley would still most likely find a way to lose to Meyer. No, a half a star higher in talent can't be ignored, but I'm not convinced it made that much of a difference when Riley was just completely outmaneuvered against Urban's team.

Are you finished now with the grilling? Let's move on to the Iowa game. I believe Armstrong will start. Hopefully he can last the whole game because of his game experience mainly, and his running ability. If he does start, there better be some scoring by Nebraska early in case he gets reinjured. A double digit lead going into the 4th quarter would sure be nice for once. By the way, I have a funny feeling that Minnesota will do their part, and it will be up to Riley to do his part to get Nebraska to the title game.
You were the one that called me out. I showed evidence to back up my point. So far all you've brought to the table is your unsubstantiated opinion.
 
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