Martinez signed

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Great deal:
24 Million over 6 years

 

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Voynovs contract has come off the books right?

 

[Deader2818]

No. He still has a contract. It just doesnt count right now. If nothing happens, he plays again and he finishes out his deal. If he goes to jail, im sure we can terminate the contract.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

Here are the results of the signing and how they affect the rest of the team.

The Hockey News:

 

[Deader2818]

I think Stoll is gone for sure. Richards can take 3C and Lewis can easily move into 4C.

McNabb has really started to round out so I think he takes over Regehr's spot next year unless Voynov goes to jail.

The real wild card is Williams. I think he'll have to take less than the 3.65 hes getting now.

 

[davnlaguna]

I think Stoll is gone for sure. Richards can take 3C and Lewis can easily move into 4C.

McNabb has really started to round out so I think he takes over Regehr's spot next year unless Voynov goes to jail.

The real wild card is Williams. I think he'll have to take less than the 3.65 hes getting now.

It is up to Williams. If he wants to stay he may have to take less. If he wants a payday, there will be teams offering $$$. There is a chance the cap will go up, butI don't think the PA is going to push it with escrow at 14% already.

 

[ouendan1]

It is up to Williams. If he wants to stay he may have to take less. If he wants a payday, there will be teams offering $$$. There is a chance the cap will go up, butI don't think the PA is going to push it with escrow at 14% already.

Kind of my thinking as well. As much as I'd hate to see Williams go, the NHL is a business and these moves happen. He's a big reason this team's won 2 cups in 3 years though.

 

[oxnardkingsfan]

Martinez's salary may just take the place of Voynov's. Let's not forget he may very well be gone next year too. Not by the Kings choice or his but the justice system.

Ox

 

[davnlaguna]

Martinez's salary may just take the place of Voynov's. Let's not forget he may very well be gone next year too. Not by the Kings choice or his but the justice system.

Ox

True but you can't count on that. You have to believe his cap hit is coming back.
Kings need some youth to step up on the cheap.

 

[oxnardkingsfan]

True but you can't count on that. You have to believe his cap hit is coming back.
Kings need some youth to step up on the cheap.

I'm not sure how they're doing so far this year but Weal, Shore, Mersch, and the Russians Zykov and Prokhorkin could be close. Plus there's Forbert and McKeown on the defense. I'll have to go out to the Monarchs site and check on how they're performing.

Ox

 

[PuckinUgly57]

I think Stoll is gone for sure. Richards can take 3C and Lewis can easily move into 4C.

McNabb has really started to round out so I think he takes over Regehr's spot next year unless Voynov goes to jail.

The real wild card is Williams. I think he'll have to take less than the 3.65 hes getting now.

Not overly thrilled with this deal although it's a bit more palatable than Muzzin's because a) Martinez was to be a UFA and they get paid more than RFAs (Muzzin) and b) he is more dependable overall than Muzzin is. I don't think he is as offensively creative but he isn't as big a liability either, he's just a solid two-way guy. He's proven his worth here over the last 4-5 years where as Muzzin is more potential than realization.

I agree on McNabb, he looked piss poor to start the season but he has made tremendous strides in elevating his game. I love the shoulder checks he lays out standing people up at the blue line and he has quietly gained confidence since the season started. Helps that he has championship breed around him instead of the Buffalo roster. He is Regehr's replacement for sure me thinks, so Regehr and his $3 million won't be back.

One of Stoll or Williams is gone for sure, just depends on which one. Stoll is very valuable as a defensive center who plays physical, goes balls out every shift and good in the dot. He showed some flashes of offensive skill early in his career (68 points including 22 goals) so I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Florida picked him up and inserted him as their 1C or 2C instead of his B6 role here hoping he can score a little more and thus paying him $4-$4.5 million a season on a 2-3 year deal. He won't get that here at all.

Williams is an interesting one, his RS numbers have steadily declined the last few years but what can you say, the dude is money when the calendar turns April. He will need to take less to stay here and honestly I can see him doing that, he did on his last contract and he is more about winning than chasing money from what I have seen from him. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take a very friendly deal to stay in LA and spread the money out much like Greene did.

The Kings have a ton of RFAs next summer (Nolan, Jones, Pearson, Toffoli, Clifford, Andreoff). I don't see one of Clifford or Nolan coming back, more so Nolan. Those are two big, physical guys and this team is designed on players like that so one will be gone but not both me thinks unless one of those types of prospects earns a spot in camp on an ELC instead of a second or third higher contract like these two.

Lots of moving parts and should be interesting to see how Dumbo manages this.

 

[PuckinUgly57]

Martinez's salary may just take the place of Voynov's. Let's not forget he may very well be gone next year too. Not by the Kings choice or his but the justice system.

Ox

I don't believe Voynov will go to jail, he will be given probation and a slew of other things - anger management courses, community service, fines and fees, etc. since he a first time offender. A good lawyer will plea this down, they are simply going through the legal process at this point to get there. This won't be resolved for another month or so.

The only folks who really go to jail/prison on something like this either can't afford a good attorney or simply plead guilty at the arraignment, which means they accept the full repercussions (whatever that may be) associated with the criminal act - in the case of felony DV, it's a maximum of 4 years in prison. Dude isn't dumb, he didn't accept that on Monday and thus the continuance.

That still doesn't address a few things as it stands with the Kings however; suppose he does go the plea route, the Kings have shown they don't tolerate character issues in the locker room. Is this the end for him as a King? Would suck considering Sutter (Dumbo?) said he has never had any issues on or off the ice and he is a good defender on an affordable contract. They would need a replacement.

Let's suppose he the Kings do not move him, then the cap relief is lifted and now they have an even larger mess to deal with next summer because some massive trimming will need to be done.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

So here is a Voynov side question. Does this year count as a contract year if he is suspended?

 

[PuckinUgly57]

So here is a Voynov side question. Does this year count as a contract year if he is suspended?

I would assume no.

In 1999-00, Yashin held out the final year of his contract with Ottawa ($3.6 million). He wanted to be paid on par with star centers like Sakic and Yzerman (haha!) who were making over $6 million at that time. He was a serial holdout artist if you recall, this was the third time in five years he demanded a new contract from the Senators. He was not going to honor the final year of that deal.

So dude held out/was suspended and tried to play in Switzerland but the IIHF backed the NHL and said you can't sign here either until you are a bonafide free agent. He didn't play anywhere in 1999-00. After the 1999-00 season, this went to an arbitrator and he ruled that Yashin was not going to be a GIII UFA and he needed to play out the final year of that deal.

He did, in 2000-01 and was traded to the NY Islanders in the infamous Chara trade, and then those dummies in NY gave him a 10 year/$87.5 million deal (which they ended up buying out in 2007 and and STILL have one more year left on the cap hit of $2.2 million. Ridiculous).

So while the situations are a bit different, they both resulted in the same scenario - player under contract suspended from playing the season. I would assume an extra year will be tacked on to his contract if he doesn't return this season.

 

[oxnardkingsfan]

Especially since Voynov is still getting paid. Be hard to argue it shouldn't count as a contract year.

Ox