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Here is a hypothetical mock trade to send Arenado to the Mariners:

Cardinals receive: Right-handed pitcher Bryan Woo

Mariners receive: Third baseman Nolan Arenado, Left-handed pitcher Matthew Liberatore, and $5 million
 

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"I have an obligation to the people who own this baseball team, an obligation to make money, to operate in a profitable fashion. Doing that, we expect to put the best product we can on the field, and I think we have accomplished that over the last two years."

"You can go to the Series two ways; first, go for it regardless of the financial risk or consequences, the way Cleveland or Florida has; or go for it with a competitive team that plays for championships on a continual basis. The objective of the Seattle Mariners is not to go to the World Series regardless of the financial consequences, that is irresponsible."


I love these quotes from Jerry Dipoto...Oh wait these are Howard Lincoln from 2002. Owner's today were part of ownership then. Nothing has changed. Nothing will change. Blueprint established decades ago.

 

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Give up on..mariners .is that the message.

If it is it's the wrong message.
 

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Here is a hypothetical mock trade to send Arenado to the Mariners:

Cardinals receive: Right-handed pitcher Bryan Woo

Mariners receive: Third baseman Nolan Arenado, Left-handed pitcher Matthew Liberatore, and $5 million
I don't like it much. It leaves the Mariners on the hook for $59 million of Arenado's salary over the next three years. Unfortunately, this is not a golden era for third basemen. There just aren't that many good ones right now.

Then again, there aren't that many good second basemen either. Hoerner and India were good targets. Royals got India. Hoerner is still out there. https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/...ECOND_BASE&qualified=FALSE&sortStatId=AT_BATS
 
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Here is a hypothetical mock trade to send Arenado to the Mariners:

Cardinals receive: Right-handed pitcher Bryan Woo

Mariners receive: Third baseman Nolan Arenado, Left-handed pitcher Matthew Liberatore, and $5 million
You trade Woo for someone in their prime, not a 33 year old. Regardless M's ownership would never take on his contract.

Yet another off-season of fucking nothing from this shit ownership.
 

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"I have an obligation to the people who own this baseball team, an obligation to make money, to operate in a profitable fashion. Doing that, we expect to put the best product we can on the field, and I think we have accomplished that over the last two years."

"You can go to the Series two ways; first, go for it regardless of the financial risk or consequences, the way Cleveland or Florida has; or go for it with a competitive team that plays for championships on a continual basis. The objective of the Seattle Mariners is not to go to the World Series regardless of the financial consequences, that is irresponsible."


I love these quotes from Jerry Dipoto...Oh wait these are Howard Lincoln from 2002. Owner's today were part of ownership then. Nothing has changed. Nothing will change. Blueprint established decades ago.

For the most part what Jedi..says.is

Right there is a true .story.
Seattle is not..New York..
LA..what's left of it anyway..
Chicago..

Seattle does have to..watch.there budget.
Ok understood..

But maney other teams .make it like.
Guardians is who...I would.
Compare
Seattle to....
Maybe Minnesota..
Arizona..

There funds are not limitless..
So.then..
You go by the situation....
In seattles situation..

Is they will lose there pitching..
Before they get hitting..

And they can not trade Castillo..
This year anyway...

So it makes it hard..to deal with..
Understood..
Yes that seems it..

1st thing..is .needs..1b,2b,3b..

Seattles rotation could be traded..
For hitting..really.
Only one guy..

Cuz.there.is.only one team that could.
Get close .to what Seattle need..

Baltimore .without hurting themselves.
In the proceses..
So Seattle tried to shop...Castillo
Did not quit work
But will in the .future.to Mets at least .
Is what mariners need to know
Anyway..so .ok
 

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So what can be done..
Let's put this to rest 1st..
Miller and woo..

Will..survive.the exit...of.the top
3..they are not even in arb yet.

So that leaves us dealing with the top.
3; and we all ready have..Castillo..

So we are down to 2..

Gilbert and kerby..

Kerby is Greg Maddox..when he is on.
A control.pitcher..

Makes him worth..a ton..

I don't know who to compare gilbert.to.
But he is an ace .type .

That Seattle..should keep..
Cardinals know that and that's why.
They wanted him..

So..to..bridge the gap....
Seattle needs to.trade.kerby..

To the only team..that can.get.close.
To what Seattle needs

1b.2b,3b..

Baltimore
 

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For.
Kerstade..rf../1b.

Montcastle..1b..who Seattle could trade
To minn for Miranda but it's pie in the sky
And montcastle is one year..then free.
Agent

Urias .3b.
And.this is not quit enough for kerby...

So Dylan beavers .cf/1b..AA Baltimore..

THIS IS GETTING CLOSE .

NO 2B THERE..??NOPE..

witch Seattle would have to..deal with.
On there own..
 

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That said....interject..a middle part in
Cole young and Williamson.

1.wiklianson.has went from..ACL.
To AAA..in one year...
Cole young in..This will be his 3rd.
Year.comming.

I say they are the best .2 prospect.
In Seattle..they were smart enough.
And good..
Enough to..git where they are in a short.
Amount of time..
And have not hit road blocks
Yet..

Witch.means...there probability .of being.
Mlb..is high...

Yeah ya don't want to bring them ..too.
Early.
So ya say..ok AAA..for know..

And go with..
Leo.rivas..
Bliss .at 2b/3b..

Yeah .they tried to..horner did not work
So..are left with.

Leo Rivas
Bliss.
Cole young
And maybe some more I don't know
 

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The problem back to..
Maybe trade .kerby.
One of seattles best pitchers .
To Baltimore.

Is about the only thing.left.that. can salvage.
The infield..

With
Kerstad .who fits for outfield as well.
With raley ..
As left....both play 1base..that's good

Right mayo..and ohearn..are left for.
Baltimore ..
But who cares...we talking Seattle..


Montcastle .who would#4..
For 1season...maybe extention.
For 1or 2more..would be unknown..


Urias .3b .who is a utility .type for.
Baltimore ..for know..
Speaking of which .Seattle.
Needs Moore as bad as any.
Right know..

Dylan beavers. .cf .cal berkly..
Is coming along fine..
Was one of my top guys.
As well .when drafted .
Plays all..the outfield spots..
And 1b .as well.
Hits hrs..
 

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Yeah I know kerby is Greg Maddox
But will.
It matter ..it won't...

Unless it's for an other .team..

Or until.sesttle. gets hitting..
Or both .
So..I would do.it for that reason.

Leaving Seattle with .

Gilbert.
Castillo...for know..
Miller.
Woo.
Hancock.

Taylor dollard

Garcia .
Logan evens .
Micheal.morales..

For know..what ya going to.
Do..
Is all..ya can do..
 

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Cuz ...right .ya have to move on anyway.
With.
Kerby and Castillo..and gilbert.is.only.
A maybe.
At 30mil...you would think..they may try to.
Save..but who.knows..
 

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Have to face reality at some point.
Hopefully they
Do.
Before it's to late..
 

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Ya prob deal.canzone to Baltimore.
As well..as left.
Instead .of kerstad.
 

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Having already tried
Trading Castillo...====did not work.
Trading for horner ======did not work.

Ya have to move to something ..
That will ...
 

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Yeah canzone will act for Baltimore.
Like Santander..
 

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And Seattle needs big power.
Bats like kerstad .
And montcastle..to park in the middle.
Of the order..
 

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SI:

Here is a hypothetical mock trade to send Arenado to the Mariners:

Cardinals receive: Right-handed pitcher Bryan Woo

Mariners receive: Third baseman Nolan Arenado, Left-handed pitcher Matthew Liberatore, and $5 million
No…any Arenado trade starts with Mitch Haniger
 
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