Luke McCaffrey

[kbso83432]

if wagner has a good year,i see him staying another before getting into coaching here hopefully.

I think so too. He'll be invaluable for Magee.

 

[Stymietee]

I initially had him ranked higher than I do now. I've kinda come around to your view on this Sty. However, I am really interested to see what he looks like with a QB such as Daniels this year.

Without checking I am sure there are some WRs above him that don't have a franchise QB either. I'm going to reserve my final opinion on TM until after this year.

Without giving away too much of my annual predictions, I am quite confident that part or the game-planning against us will be one that takes Terry out by doubling him as often as they can. No other WR on our team has proven anything yet , especially when the question is reliability. Dotsonhad a good first year and a bad second one, who can honestly say at this point which of his two seasons we're going to get, or worse which accurately represents him? Dyami?? and everyone else are either rookies or players with very limited playing time. I truly want Terry to show his shit this year because I believe we haven't seen the best of him yet but without freeing him up he's the singular passing target that has to be stopped.

 

[kbso83432]

Without giving away too much of my annual predictions, I am quite confident that part or the game-planning against us will be one that takes Terry out by doubling him as often as they can. No other WR on our team has proven anything yet , especially when the question is reliability. Dotsonhad a good first year and a bad second one, who can honestly say at this point which of his two seasons we're going to get, or worse which accurately represents him? Dyami?? and everyone else are either rookies or players with very limited playing time. I truly want Terry to show his shit this year because I believe we haven't seen the best of him yet but without freeing him up he's the singular passing target that has to be stopped.

I'm all about freeing him up as well. We'll see if Dotson can return to form and if Sinnott is truly Kittle light. Those two things would certainly help.

I'm not as high on Higgins as you are, but I'm definitely on the lookout for someone maybe becoming disgruntled. It feels like LT and Corner are a lock to be our 1st and 2nd round picks next year, so I'm with you on scouring the trade market or addressing that in FA ASAP.

 

[Stymietee]

I'm all about freeing him up as well. We'll see if Dotson can return to form and if Sinnot is truly Kittle light. Those two things would certainly help.

I'm not as high on Higgins as you are, but I'm definitely on the lookout for someone maybe becoming disgruntled. It feels like LT and Corner are a lock to be our 1st and 2nd round picks next year, so I'm with you on scouring the trade market or addressing that in FA ASAP.

What are your thoughts on Terrance Marshall Jr.?
( 23 years old, 6' 2.5" runs 4.4/40 former LSU WR, 3rd year in the NFL. currently with the Carolina Panthers who is actively with permission seeking a trade)

 

[kbso83432]

What are your thoughts on Terrance Marshall Jr.?
( 23 years old, 6' 2.5" runs 4.4/40 former LSU WR, 3rd year in the NFL. currently with the Carolina Panthers actively with permission seeking a trade)

I remember him. Potential is there, but honestly he'd probably be fighting McCaffery for our 3rd receiver spot. I don't want to make a move just to make a move.

Preferably I'd love to get a big target in here, but I would want someone other teams have to game plan for, if not, I probably stay patient. For example, I really wanted them to be aggressive for Debo.

Defenses having to keep an eye on Debo while spying Jayden would have been a nightmare.

I trust your chops sty. You were in on Jayden way before me. How do you feel about him and his potential fit?

 

[Sportster 72]

There are other weapons as you mentioned kbso. McCaffrey could be a big piece of the puzzle. Eckler is going to see his share of passes and BRob to a lesser extent. I don't know that they are going to move Ertz around but I do think they will move Sinnott around (TE, split TE, FB) I am expecting packages based on who they are playing and down & distance.

Just my opinion but based on what was done in FA I am not expecting to trade a player then pay him big bucks at WR this year. It just doesn't fit with what Peters is doing ..... I think.

 

[kbso83432]

There are other weapons as you mentioned kbso. McCaffrey could be a big piece of the puzzle. Eckler is going to see his share of passes and BRob to a lesser extent. I don't know that they are going to move Ertz around but I do think they will move Sinnott around (TE, split TE, FB) I am expecting packages based on who they are playing and down & distance.

Just my opinion but based on what was done in FA I am not expecting to trade a player then pay him big bucks at WR this year. It just doesn't fit with what Peters is doing ..... I think.

Yeah, I expect Ertz to be on a snap count, but I think they move him around in the redzone. Hope he can be effective down there. I don't see a big trade either. I would say Aiyuk or Debo, but it feels like that time may have passed. 49ers are going to try to make a run.

I'm not opposed to adding a WR if one becomes available. We should be in the business of doing everything we can to develop Jayden. We'll see.

 

[gkekoa]

I think Daniels wil, help Dotson more than TM. TM is similar to Marvin Harrison…good route runner and hands with solid speed. If Peyton were throwing TM the ball, nobody would question him as a #1. Dotson has a bit more speed than TM and I expect when plays break down, Dotson will benefit more.

Yes I know TM had a faster 40.

 

[Stymietee]

I remember him. Potential is there, but honestly he'd probably be fighting McCaffery for our 3rd receiver spot. I don't want to make a move just to make a move.

Preferably I'd love to get a big target in here, but I would want someone other teams have to game plan for, if not, I probably stay patient. For example, I really wanted them to be aggressive for Debo.

Defenses having to keep an eye on Debo while spying Jayden would have been a nightmare.

I trust your chops sty. You were in on Jayden way before me. How do you feel about him and his potential fit?

Jayden Daniels is...S.P.E.C.I.A.L., temperamentally and with respect to his ability to throw the ball. His work ethic is second to none and he gives this team the added run feature.
If his future success, was based on talent alone that future would be as bright as any who have played the game. Unfortunately, there are major questions about the organization that drafted him having the wherewithal to protect and hone his considerable gifts from potential to what they could be... best in the league at his craft. We'll have to wait on that but in the meantime here are a couple of things about him that I personally don't see as debatable.
1. Right now, he's the most talented QB in the division.
2. Right now, how he fits into the organization isn't the question. As time goes on, we'll get reports about his being a natural leader, fun to work with and a host of other things that will have his teammates doing all they can to make sure that they (including veterans) best fit with the new face of the franchise. He's that type of dude.

 

[kbso83432]

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Jayden Daniels is...S.P.E.C.I.A.L., temperamentally and with respect to his ability to throw the ball. His work ethic is second to none and he gives this team the added run feature.
If his future success, was based on talent alone that future would be as bright as any who have played the game. Unfortunately, there are major questions about the organization that drafted him having the wherewithal to protect and hone his considerable gifts from potential to what they could be... best in the league at his craft. We'll have to wait on that but in the meantime here are a couple of things about him that I personally don't see as debatable.
1. Right now, he's the most talented QB in the division.
2. Right now, how he fits into the organization isn't the question. As time goes on, we'll get reports about his being a natural leader, fun to work with and a host of other things that will have his teammates doing all they can to make sure that they (including veterans) best fit with the new face of the franchise. He's that type of dude.

I live in Houston and honestly I'm just waiting on the schedule to drop so I can get my tickets and book my flight for me and my son. Can it be our turn again? Lol. I mean haven't we paid our dues as a fanbase?

 

[chillerdab]

Eckler scores lots of tds, Errz has too. Both will force lb coverage away from the intermediate routes run by wrs.

If Sinnott can run, they’ll send him deep sometimes and pull safety coverage away from TM.

This is the first time in a long fucking time that the redskins offseason plan seemed like an actual plan: proactive as oposed to reactive.

I dont know how it will translate to on field play, but I sure as shit know that whoever takes the field will know what their role is, and why, and what the expectations are for them, and how to accomplish them.

I fully expect multiple blown coverage mistakes to be a thing of the past.

Similarly, I fully expect the offensive game plan to be competent and fluid depending on game play and game opponent.

That’s quite a change from last year’s debacle.

 

[kbso83432]

Eckler scores lots of tds, Errz has too. Both will force lb coverage away from the intermediate routes run by wrs.

If Sinnott can run, they’ll send him deep sometimes and pull safety coverage away from TM.

This is the first time in a long fucking time that the redskins offseason plan seemed like an actual plan: proactive as oposed to reactive.

I dont know how it will translate to on field play, but I sure as shit know that whoever takes the field will know what their role is, and why, and what the expectations are for them, and how to accomplish them.

I fully expect multiple blown coverage mistakes to be a thing of the past.

Similarly, I fully expect the offensive game plan to be competent and fluid depending on game play and game opponent.

That’s quite a change from last year’s debacle.

Have a feeling this team will swarm and hit this year too.

 

[skinsdad62]

Well the honeymoon is in full swing . Let’s see what they actually do on the field

 

[Stymietee]

Well the honeymoon is in full swing . Let’s see what they actually do on the field

I wonder what type of honeymoon it's going to be?

 

[Skin'EmAll]

OK, let's hear from you on which of the 28 WR1s above him on this list (excluding new draftees) he would supplant as that team's WR1. Trust me, I tried and even when I gave all tie-breakers to Terry, or incorporated a bit of hometown favoritism, I still can't honestly rank him above a mid-grade WR1 ( in that 15, 16, 17 range). That's just me though, I'll wait for your ranking.
SN: it also might be fun to hear from our fellow posters on this topic and how they rank him in relation to other WR1s in the league.

Bills, Panthers, Chargers.

Obviously if this was before the trade and cuts, I'd say Panthers only. Also I'd guess Jax too because of cuts. So a season ago, I'd only say the Panthers, however Theilen put in work as the forced WR1

 

[kbso83432]

McLaurin is our Zimmerman. To win it all we need to find our Juan Soto.

 

[Stymietee]

McLaurin is our Zimmerman. To win it all we need to find our Juan Soto.

Yeah, excellent analogy, but in football terms, and closer to home, I see him as a close, but not as good Gary Clark type. He needs an Art Monk, to go along with J. Dotson hopefully serving the Ricky Sanders role.

 

[kbso83432]

Yeah, excellent analogy, but in football terms, and closer to home, I see him as a close, but not as good Gary Clark type. He needs an Art Monk, to go along with J. Dotson hopefully serving the Ricky Sanders role.

Yeah, Clark was better than McLaurin. Just more explosive. I think Dotson has a chance to be better than Ricky. Better route runner.

 

[Breed]

OK, let's hear from you on which of the 28 WR1s above him on this list (excluding new draftees) he would supplant as that team's WR1. Trust me, I tried and even when I gave all tie-breakers to Terry, or incorporated a bit of hometown favoritism, I still can't honestly rank him above a mid-grade WR1 ( in that 15, 16, 17 range). That's just me though, I'll wait for your ranking.
SN: it also might be fun to hear from our fellow posters on this topic and how they rank him in relation to other WR1s in the league.

Apologies for the late response. The duties of being a gentleman of leisure on the stroll while quite enjoyable. Can also be quite time consuming.

The 15-20 range is fair imo. Though I'd like to see what he would do with legit QBing. As well as having at least 1 more player who can consistently produce be it another WR, TE or RB, neither of which TM has had. He's been the only positive constant year in year out in multiple dismal n shitty Skins offenses. That if anything has held him back far more than its benefitted him. He's also one of the few, very possibly the only Skins player, you can make an argument for far as improving aspect(s) of his game upon entering the NFL.. He's gotten noticably better at coming up with contested passes n he's improved catching with his hands.

Is he a top tier, Grade A #1 WR? Nope. He's not untouchable far as if the right trade offer came along either. but he's the very last player on the Skins that any fan(s) should be talking about replacing this year or in the very near future. If the Skins by luck, or prudent moves should land a WR who's more capable as a #1 than TM. That would be spectacular as I agree with you. TM would be hellified on single coverage by #2 CBs. He's not bad on #1 CBs either though n with better QB play n better playcalling by an OC. He'd be even better.

 

[kbso83432]