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[fredsdeadfriend]

Oklahoma football didn’t begin with the Bud Wilkinson era.

It began decades prior with Bennie Owen, whom the field is named after.

He was the first of 4 coaches with 100+ wins at OU. The only school in the history of college football with 4 coaches to win 100+ games.

1915 & 1918 are recognized by the NCAA as National Championship seasons. OU claims neither, unlike multiple other schools who claim pre poll era mythical national championships.


And by the way, Oklahoma is responsible for creating……

Trash can punch
Adult diapers
Maxi pads
Ribbed condoms

Your Welcome!

Dude, the last 6 years with Bennie, combined with the very mediocre tenures of Lindsey, Hardage and Jones wasn't proving OU was anything more than average at best. Stidham wasn't horrible, he was actually good, but Luster wasn't anything special. You could try to argue that all of Bud's success was based on Tatum's one year proceeding him, but that would be beyond ridiculous. Bennie coached there 22 years, he could have won just 5 games a year and gotten to 100, hardly meaningful when you compare a Bernie Bierman who didn't win 100 games at Minnesota yet won 5 Natl Titles there. # of total wins is meaningless when you play a bunch of nobodies. OU was better than most in it's region under Bennie, but they weren't a Natl force like Wilkinson turned them into.

 

[Tritonboat71]

Damn. If only they would have created "You're" I would be impressed.

They did

But spell check fouled it up

 

[Tritonboat71]

Minnesota doesn't claim their 1903, 1911 or 1915 titles, so what?

Oklahoma wouldn't claim a title in 1918 seeing as that team only won 6 games, one against Post Field, one against Phillips, and another against Central St Ok. Hardly worthy opponents, leaving only 3 opponents people would recognize today, and the team garnered ZERO All-Americans and ZERO All-Conference players. lol

The 1915 team wasn't much more impressive, with a 1 pt win over Kendall? Who/what is Kendall? lol A 1 pt win over mighty Kansas probably didn't impress too many people, either. Too bad Minny and Oklahoma didn't play in 1915, I'm sure UMn would have pummeled OU.



Oh, and adult diapers, maxi pads and ribbed condoms? lol I'm going to assume you are joking, right?

That was the landscape of college football in those days. There was not only a World War, but a global pandemic (Spanish Influenza), record drought, Wall Street collapse, America’s westward expansion, etc…

Oklahoma had only been a state since 1907. New Mexico and Arizona shortly followed.

Flight across the Atlantic was fantasy

Teams traveled by train, and sometimes played multiple games in a week. Especially in rural America.

Minnysoda played some real football powerhouses in that same era vs. Overland Station, St. Thomas, Municipal Pier, and who could forget the juggernauts Carleton St. Olaf and Shattuck.

But more important than any of that is the Golden Goofers are 0-2 vs. OU.

In any era, at any given moment in time, the Goofers will always be winless against OU.

Anything else is fake news

 

[Irish7478]

Wow, you keep trying REALLY hard, lol.

A high school, eh? lol Well that High School has 2 recent Natl Titles in football and several Natl Titles in Hockey(8), and ranks better than Providence, Gonzaga, Butler, New Mexico, Ball St, St John's, Wyoming, NIU, WMU, Idaho, Miss St, Memphis, Wichita St, S Miss & La Tech according to Forbes. So you claiming all of those colleges are akin to high school's, too? lol

Also didn't know you could get a Master's Degree from a High School, in 25 different fields, in fact. lol

And since when did high schools receive Sea Grant University status, or have 50 separate buildings or a Museum of Art with over 10,000 works of Art, or a Planetarium, etc.? lol


UMD's produced the winningest cfb coach in Div 2, possibly the first American to get into the Hockey Hall of Fame, and even your Fighting Irish looked to UMD to lead it's cfb program to it's 2nd to last Natl Title. He followed in the footsteps of a legend, did he not? Was portrayed in the movie Rudy, lol.

so now a community college can get a national title in hockey. No wonder no one follows college hockey. And I’m sure a masters degree from a community college is worth every cent you paid for it. All 100 cents.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

That was the landscape of college football in those days. There was not only a World War, but a global pandemic (Spanish Influenza), record drought, Wall Street collapse, America’s westward expansion, etc…

Oklahoma had only been a state since 1907. New Mexico and Arizona shortly followed.

Flight across the Atlantic was fantasy

Teams traveled by train, and sometimes played multiple games in a week. Especially in rural America.

Minnysoda played some real football powerhouses in that same era vs. Overland Station, St. Thomas, Municipal Pier, and who could forget the juggernauts Carleton St. Olaf and Shattuck.

But more important than any of that is the Golden Goofers are 0-2 vs. OU.

In any era, at any given moment in time, the Goofers will always be winless against OU.

Anything else is fake news

The difference is that when I listed the sham teams Oklahoma played, they were from those 2 seasons you claim Oklahoma doesn't claim as Natl Titles, and I was pointing out how they shouldn't claim those as 3 out of 6 opponents that one year were nobodies, and were the 3 teams we'd recognize any good?

Minnesota played at least 5-6 legit teams every one of the years someone claims they won a Title, only 1 year of which U of Mn claims, 1904, the year after they went undefeated outside of the Michigan game, which ended in a tie, that is the point a minute Michigan men who were declared Natl Champs. They followed that up by going undefeated, beating the likes of Iowa, Wisc, Iowa St and NW by a combined score of 88-0. Nebraska was the only team that scored on them the entire season. They beat Grinnell by a score of 146-0, now you may chuckle my listing Grinnell, but Grinnell put a whooping on Iowa, 26-0 or something like that just over a decade earlier, so they were possibly a more legit team back then.

And Minnesota was inventing things like the 4 man backfield and the offensive shift, during that time period, so it makes sense that they were one of the best teams in the country. Among teams still in Div 1, UMn had the best winning percentage in the nation from 1900-1919.

And the 1905 team was the last to play teams like Carleton and Shattuck. None of UMn's other title years, 1911 and 1915 had anything but legit teams on them. The 1910 squad outscored their opponents 179-0 going into the Michigan game to end the season, losing 0-6 to miss out on their 3rd Natl Title, but didn't lose any games in 1911, beating the likes of Chicago, Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa St and Iowa and tying Wisconsin and Billingsley crowned them Champs, but UMn doesn't claim this one. The 1914 team's only loss was to natl Champs Illinois, and the 1915 team managed a tie with Illinois and won all their other games for another Billingsley Natl Title that UMn doesn't claim. They outscored their opponents 191-35 that season, including wins over Chicago, Wisc, Iowa and Iowa St. I think the best Gopher team of that era was the 1916 team, who unfortunately ran into a great coach who introduced a couple new fb trick plays to the nation, during their game vs the Gophers that year. They outscored every other opponent 339-14, that includes wins vs Iowa, Wisc & Chicago. They were dubbed The Immortals by the Press, maybe Grantland Rice?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

so now a community college can get a national title in hockey. No wonder no one follows college hockey. And I’m sure a masters degree from a community college is worth every cent you paid for it. All 100 cents.

UM-Duluth is not a community college. DUH. It's been a Div 1 hockey program for a long time now. Div 2 in football.

You think Forbes would rank a Community College ahead of a bunch of major P5/P6 colleges ?! LOL

You are not the brightest bulb on the tree, are you?


UM-Duluth's hockey program is rated better than Notre Dame's. Notre Dame's hockey program has never been able to win a Natl Title yet, while UMD has won three Div 1 Natl Titles.

 

[Tritonboat71]

The difference is that when I listed the sham teams Oklahoma played, they were from those 2 seasons you claim Oklahoma doesn't claim as Natl Titles, and I was pointing out how they shouldn't claim those as 3 out of 6 opponents that one year were nobodies, and were the 3 teams we'd recognize any good?

Minnesota played at least 5-6 legit teams every one of the years someone claims they won a Title, only 1 year of which U of Mn claims, 1904, the year after they went undefeated outside of the Michigan game, which ended in a tie, that is the point a minute Michigan men who were declared Natl Champs. They followed that up by going undefeated, beating the likes of Iowa, Wisc, Iowa St and NW by a combined score of 88-0. Nebraska was the only team that scored on them the entire season. They beat Grinnell by a score of 146-0, now you may chuckle my listing Grinnell, but Grinnell put a whooping on Iowa, 26-0 or something like that just over a decade earlier, so they were possibly a more legit team back then.

And Minnesota was inventing things like the 4 man backfield and the offensive shift, during that time period, so it makes sense that they were one of the best teams in the country. Among teams still in Div 1, UMn had the best winning percentage in the nation from 1900-1919.

And the 1905 team was the last to play teams like Carleton and Shattuck. None of UMn's other title years, 1911 and 1915 had anything but legit teams on them. The 1910 squad outscored their opponents 179-0 going into the Michigan game to end the season, losing 0-6 to miss out on their 3rd Natl Title, but didn't lose any games in 1911, beating the likes of Chicago, Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa St and Iowa and tying Wisconsin and Billingsley crowned them Champs, but UMn doesn't claim this one. The 1914 team's only loss was to natl Champs Illinois, and the 1915 team managed a tie with Illinois and won all their other games for another Billingsley Natl Title that UMn doesn't claim. They outscored their opponents 191-35 that season, including wins over Chicago, Wisc, Iowa and Iowa St. I think the best Gopher team of that era was the 1916 team, who unfortunately ran into a great coach who introduced a couple new fb trick plays to the nation, during their game vs the Gophers that year. They outscored every other opponent 339-14, that includes wins vs Iowa, Wisc & Chicago. They were dubbed The Immortals by the Press, maybe Grantland Rice?

Fake News

 

[wazzu31]

WSU -

2-3
1-3
6-7
3-9
6-7
3-9
4-8
2-10
1-11
2-11
5-7
6-6
4-7
5-6
4-7
3-9
3-8

That is 17 of the last 24 seasons of WSU football. Two 1 win seasons, two 2 win seasons, four 3 win seasons, three 4 win seasons, 16 LOSING seasons out of the last 24, that is fully 2/3rds.

Love how you leave out of the years of us doing something that Minnesota hasn’t done since my parents were born and that is complete for the conference championship

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Love how you leave out of the years of us doing something that Minnesota hasn’t done since my parents were born and that is complete for the conference championship

That would be your Super Bowl, wouldn't it? lol The Dreams of a WSU fan, just to compete for a Conf Title, wow, how cool would that be?! lol I'm surprised, as I thought the game vs the Huskies was your lowly WSU fans super bowl?


Conference Titles are not all equal. Nebraska has won more Conf Titles than Minnesota has, but many of those years UMn would still beat Nebraska. Minnesota played Nebraska 10 times from 1907 to 1960 in years that Nebraska won a conf title, and Minny went 8-2 vs those Conf Champs, lol. That's because not all conf Titles are equal.

This year's Pac Champ might not even end up in the Top Ten? I remember my Gopher BB team playing a Pac Champ in the friggin NIT tourney, lol. I also remember the Gophers beating both UCLA and Washington in 1977, another year UW went on to win the Conf Title. UMn also beat #1 Michigan that season, 16-0.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Love how you leave out of the years of us doing something that Minnesota hasn’t done since my parents were born and that is complete for the conference championship

How many Conf Titles has WSU won? more than a handful?

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

How many Conf Titles has WSU won? more than a handful?

Minnesota has Z E R O CCG appearances. Pathetic.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Minnesota has Z E R O CCG appearances. Pathetic.

And Oregon has Z E R O Natl Titles. Oregon has Z E R O undefeated seasons in the last 100 years, 3 total, a 4-0 ssn, a 5-0-1 ssn and a 6-0-1 ssn. lol

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

And Oregon has Z E R O Natl Titles. Oregon has Z E R O undefeated seasons in the last 100 years, 3 total, a 4-0 ssn, a 5-0-1 ssn and a 6-0-1 ssn. lol

Why are you bringing up Oregon in the Minnesota thread? You don't see me talking about Minnesota in the Oregon threads.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Why are you bringing up Oregon in the Minnesota thread? You don't see me talking about Minnesota in the Oregon threads.

That is how it always goes, are you that dense? When I started the NDm threads, just about everyone, including you I bet, brought up Minnesota. Why is that? The thread was about Notre Dame? Because that is just how it works. If you can't handle the heat, step out of the kitchen you baby. lol

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

That is how it always goes, are you that dense? When I started the NDm threads, just about everyone, including you I bet, brought up Minnesota. Why is that? The thread was about Notre Dame? Because that is just how it works. If you can't handle the heat, step out of the kitchen you baby. lol

Now you're bringing up Notre Dame in a Minnesota thread?

Dude, we get it. Minnesota is absolutely dog shit in football (and has been for a long time), so you feel the need to deflect to other programs.

If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Minnesota has produced 19 Cfb Hall of Fame PLAYERS, 4 coaches & 4 additional players who got inducted as coaches.

Minnesota has produced 7 Pro Football Hall of Famers, 5 players and 2 coaches. There are only a single digit # of schools who can claim more.

Minnesota has produced THE MOST NFL leading scorers, as far as I can tell.

Minnesota, as of the naming of the 2010's All Decade Team had produced THE MOST NFL All-Decade players.

Minnesota has produced 14-15 Pro Football coaches. I read somewhere that's the most any school has produced? That might not have been true or may no longer be true? I challenge anyone to find a school that's produced more.

Minnesota has produced 3 Outland Award winners, only a little over a handful of schools have more.

Minnesota invented the 4 man backfield, the offensive shift, cheerleading and their coach was the first to propose the forward pass.

Former Gopher Clark Shaughnessy came up with the man in motion for the T-Formation which greatly impacted football at all levels. He was nominated for the NFL HOF three separate times because of his influence on the game.

Longest Winning streak in cfb history? Accomplished by former Gopher Bud Wilkinson.

Longest Unbeaten streak in cfb history? Accomplished by former UMner Gil Dobie.
Gophers were the only tie in Michigan's 2nd longest unbeaten streak ever!
Gophers also had the 9th longest unbeaten streak of the 20th Century, with only 1 tie & that was vs a Natl Champion.


5 of the Top 15 longest winning streaks of the 20th Century were accomplished by former Gophers as coaches, including 3 of the Top 5!!!

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Minnesota has produced 19 Cfb Hall of Fame PLAYERS, 4 coaches & 4 additional players who got inducted as coaches.

Minnesota has produced 7 Pro Football Hall of Famers, 5 players and 2 coaches. There are only a single digit # of schools who can claim more.

Minnesota has produced THE MOST NFL leading scorers, as far as I can tell.

Minnesota, as of the naming of the 2010's All Decade Team had produced THE MOST NFL All-Decade players.

Minnesota has produced 14-15 Pro Football coaches. I read somewhere that's the most any school has produced? That might not have been true or may no longer be true? I challenge anyone to find a school that's produced more.

Minnesota has produced 3 Outland Award winners, only a little over a handful of schools have more.

Minnesota invented the 4 man backfield, the offensive shift, cheerleading and their coach was the first to propose the forward pass.

Former Gopher Clark Shaughnessy came up with the man in motion for the T-Formation which greatly impacted football at all levels. He was nominated for the NFL HOF three separate times because of his influence on the game.

Longest Winning streak in cfb history? Accomplished by former Gopher Bud Wilkinson.

Longest Unbeaten streak in cfb history? Accomplished by former UMner Gil Dobie.
Gophers were the only tie in Michigan's 2nd longest unbeaten streak ever!
Gophers also had the 9th longest unbeaten streak of the 20th Century, with only 1 tie & that was vs a Natl Champion.


5 of the Top 15 longest winning streaks of the 20th Century were accomplished by former Gophers as coaches, including 3 of the Top 5!!!

I see a bunch of stuff from a long time ago that has no relevance on Minnesota's status as a punching bag for the past 50 years.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

I see a bunch of stuff from a long time ago that has no relevance on Minnesota's status as a punching bag for the past 50 years.

Well you, as an Oregon fan, would know a lot about being a punching bag, as that is what Oregon was for most of it's history, and it took a ton of blood money from a creep of a man who made a bunch of money off the backs of children and basically slave labor from overseas. So it's not even like he was helping to employ Americans or anything. Guy is one of the biggest villians of the modern age, but you Oregon fans couldn't care less where the money comes from, do you?

Minnesotans of influence, saw football for the brutal mindless blood sport it is, and just because I admit this FACT doesn't mean I don't still love the damned sport, I truly do, and I recognize the reality that it's not going anywhere and is the most popular and biggest money maker for college athletic departments, but that doesn't change the fact it is what it is, and those people wanted to eliminate it, sort of like that one guy here wants to eliminate tribal behaviors. He's right, they should be eliminated, but when it comes to sports, they seem pretty harmless and fun, and as for cfb, many people are working hard to make it safer. But you can't hardly look down on the nerds out there who felt the world would be a better place without football. SO... their influence was felt and support for the football program dropped down to the bare minimum. Compare that to Oregon and how they became good at football and it's night and day. UMn tried to do good and tried to fight a losing battle and have suffered for it, while Oregon accepted blood money and now has had some success and losers like you feel it justified to rub your ill gotten gains in the face of the good guy who tried to do something highly principled.


I wouldn't trade places with you if you paid me a million bucks. Oregon disgusts me, nothing about the school sits right with me. Ugly colors, stupid mascot, slave/child labor villian giving Oregon tons of money, miniscule research footprint, etc..

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

I see a bunch of stuff from a long time ago that has no relevance on Minnesota's status as a punching bag for the past 50 years.

This punching bag STILL HAS GONE 3-1 vs Oregon, and whooped up on both UCLA and Pac Champ Wash in 1977. That was less than 50 years ago.

2019's 11-2 season with just a 3rd year coach is also less than 50 years ago.

 

[Irish7478]

UM-Duluth is not a community college. DUH. It's been a Div 1 hockey program for a long time now. Div 2 in football.

You think Forbes would rank a Community College ahead of a bunch of major P5/P6 colleges ?! LOL

You are not the brightest bulb on the tree, are you?


UM-Duluth's hockey program is rated better than Notre Dame's. Notre Dame's hockey program has never been able to win a Natl Title yet, while UMD has won three Div 1 Natl Titles.

Notre Dame hockey exists because you could get a 16 ounce beer for $.50 at halftime. Watch the first half, go get a bunch of beers and miss the second half. It made getting season tickets a good purchase.