knitting monkey out

[Cbrower91]

For up to 12 weeks according to pole lock and dwill. Welcome back griess

 

[Cmon_WTF]

For up to 12 weeks according to pole lock and dwill. Welcome back griess

He's out 12 weeks if he goes through the surgical procedure to fix what's wrong. He's seeing a specialist first for other possible options.

If Ting does the opperation 12 weeks may be a conservitive estimate.

 

[MrChangoT97]

:mmph: I heard Niemi is out for the 1st day of camp also :mmph:

Havlat, is still hurt

Handzus is still in his country

Sheppard is still 2 months away

 

[rares]

For up to 12 weeks according to pole lock and dwill. Welcome back griess

Yeah, saw that...

Why do we need this bum, again?

Can he be waived/released or something?

Talk about a waste of a roster spot...

 

[sjrules99]

niity injury = good news! The LTIR cash is far more than greiss' replacement salary. This could give dougie upwards of 500k more in cap space which would be enougt to land another 1-2M in salary come deadline time. It's not all bad...

havlat, on the other hand, could be a real problem. The sharks forward crew is super shallow after the top 6 and an injury there could be devastating. This is kinda what I feared/expected going into the year so thin. Of course, dougie still has the space to add, but its so risky going in without a legitimate third line.

 

[Cbrower91]

niity injury = good news! The LTIR cash is far more than greiss' replacement salary. This could give dougie upwards of 500k more in cap space which would be enougt to land another 1-2M in salary come deadline time. It's not all bad...

havlat, on the other hand, could be a real problem. The sharks forward crew is super shallow after the top 6 and an injury there could be devastating. This is kinda what I feared/expected going into the year so thin. Of course, dougie still has the space to add, but its so risky going in without a legitimate third line.

He's recovering form surgery its pretty common no need to blow Havlats injury out of proportion

 

[MrChangoT97]

But think about it, if the Sharks were to lose one or 2 of their top 6 due to injury then this team is screwed!!!!!

 

[filosofy29]

But think about it, if the Sharks were to lose one or 2 of their top 6 due to injury then this team is screwed!!!!!

Besides a handful (5 or less) of teams, this could be said for almost every team in the NHL.

 

[abaskin18]

Besides a handful (5 or less) of teams, this could be said for almost every team in the NHL.

So what you're saying, professor, is that it's time for shark fans to panic, crack each others heads open and feast on the goo inside?

 

[sjrules99]

Besides a handful (5 or less) of teams, this could be said for almost every team in the NHL.

Not for the best teams:

sharks 7-8-9 forwards: handzus, mitchell, mcginn?
Detroit: Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Helm
Chicago: Brunette, Stalberg, Bickell
Vancouver: Sturm-Higgins-Burrows (or malhotra, or hansen)

Its pretty clear to me that the other powerhouses in the west have significantly more depth up front. Of the other 3 teams, detroit's 3 may be the weakest, but they also have 2 or 3 rookie forwards expected to make serious impacts possibly this year in nyquist and tatar.

The sharks are the thinnest up front without a doubt. they are among the best on D (though that too is debatable), and their top 6 can rival anyone, but they will likely have the greatest percentage of their goals having to come from the front 6.

 

[SJVP408]

Nittimaki is injured? Shocker. Imagine if the Sharks didn't get Niemi.

 

[Cbrower91]

For fucks sake training camp hasn't even started chill the fuck out already

 

[SJVP408]

About the depth issue, Doug always, and I mean always, adds to the roster prior to the trade deadline. There hasn't been one single year where he hasn't made a splash into the trade market to bolster the lineup. He's scored the best winger available (Guerin), the best dman available (Campbell), and other solid, impact players (Ian White, Rivet, Moen).

All he has to do is get a depth scoring winger with some speed. Shouldn't be too difficult imo. My guess is he may go get the best winger available at the trade deadline. Wouldn't surprise me at all. He's got a 1st, and two second rounders to dangle and we know Doug is more than willing to mortgage the future for the present.

I'd love to get Milan Hejduk at the deadline. Aging vet with a chance for one more deep playoff run? Sounds like a great match.

 

[filosofy29]

Not for the best teams:

sharks 7-8-9 forwards: handzus, mitchell, mcginn?
Detroit: Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Helm
Chicago: Brunette, Stalberg, Bickell
Vancouver: Sturm-Higgins-Burrows (or malhotra, or hansen)

Its pretty clear to me that the other powerhouses in the west have significantly more depth up front. Of the other 3 teams, detroit's 3 may be the weakest, but they also have 2 or 3 rookie forwards expected to make serious impacts possibly this year in nyquist and tatar.

The sharks are the thinnest up front without a doubt. they are among the best on D (though that too is debatable), and their top 6 can rival anyone, but they will likely have the greatest percentage of their goals having to come from the front 6.

Did you even read my response? Reading comprehension for $500 please Alex.

 

[Slimpikins]

Last year some of you were calling for them to miss the playoffs before the season even started. Don't slit your wrists just yet, they haven't even dropped the Puck yet.

Only Sharks fans can turn a thread about an injury to the back up goalie into reasons why the team is completely screwed this year.

On the bright side, panic on the Sharks board must mean hockey is just around the corner!

 

[sjrules99]

Did you even read my response? Reading comprehension for $500 please Alex.

you said its true of most teams... well nearly half dont make the PO's and another 5 or 10 arent true contenders, so the only teams I care about are the ones that the sharks are really competing with which, as of right now, seems to be chicago, detroit and vancouver in the west. if the sharks cant match up against them, then I dont really care that they can destroy columbus, colorado, or dallas.

however, as was mentioned, dougie does indeed always add, so it's not like his hands are tied. he has the space and a big injury would give him LTIR relief and he'd be able to make even more moves. I just fear a repeat of last year's issues with the defense. We all saw the holes on D, we knew they were there and although they got moderately fixed by the deadline, much of the damage was done.

if there is an injury to the top forwards, the sharks will likely struggle to score and it could place a major stress on the team early on. So, even though dougie CAN fix it by the deadline, and I'm sure he'll add throughout the season, I would still be wary of entering the season the way the team is now. It really puts all the pressure on the top few guys to provide virtually all of the scoring, just as last year all the pressure was on Boyle to support a shallow D corps.

it's very early, and I'm not freaking out by any means. The SC isnt won in september, but I do hope dougie makes one more addition to the third line with a legitimite scoring threat within the first month or two of the season.

 

[filosofy29]

you said its true of most teams... well nearly half dont make the PO's and another 5 or 10 arent true contenders, so the only teams I care about are the ones that the sharks are really competing with which, as of right now, seems to be chicago, detroit and vancouver in the west. if the sharks cant match up against them, then I dont really care that they can destroy columbus, colorado, or dallas.

It is VERY true. I know nearly half of the teams don't make the playoffs. I also know not every team that makes the playoffs is a true Cup contender. Just because you took my statement and then derived it towards your own tangential point, doesn't make my utterance any less true.

Also, let's examine your point a little better:

Say Datsyuk and Franzen go down, I don't think Bertuzzi and Holmstrom are gonna come to the rescue.

Say Kane and Bolland go down, I don't think Brunette (who has aged tremendously and was slow before he was old) and Stalberg are gonna come to the rescue.

Say D. Sedin and Burrows go down, I don't think Sturm (I love Marco, but he can't even stay healthy anymore and he's not as fast as he used to be) and Higgins are gonna come to the rescue.

Are the teams above deeper at forward than the Sharks? Sure, but any of those teams above lose two of their top 6 forwards for a length of time and they're just not the same. Besides, a "team" is the sum of all of it's parts. If the Sharks can't match up with the other team with offensive depth, than they better be able to make up for it in the defense and goaltending departments. Teams usually change their style of play when they lose a huge offensive (or defensive) player. The Sharks can employ a much more defensive oriented system if two top 6 forwards went down to injury. I think the Sharks are currently better than they've been in a long time in both of those departments.

 

[SJVP408]

Last year some of you were calling for them to miss the playoffs before the season even started. Don't slit your wrists just yet, they haven't even dropped the Puck yet.

Only Sharks fans can turn a thread about an injury to the back up goalie into reasons why the team is completely screwed this year.

On the bright side, panic on the Sharks board must mean hockey is just around the corner!

So true. Hey, if we can't complain or worry, we wouldn't be true Sharks fans

 

[Cmon_WTF]

Not for the best teams:

sharks 7-8-9 forwards: handzus, mitchell, mcginn?
Detroit: Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Helm
Chicago: Brunette, Stalberg, Bickell
Vancouver: Sturm-Higgins-Burrows (or malhotra, or hansen)

Its pretty clear to me that the other powerhouses in the west have significantly more depth up front. Of the other 3 teams, detroit's 3 may be the weakest, but they also have 2 or 3 rookie forwards expected to make serious impacts possibly this year in nyquist and tatar.

The sharks are the thinnest up front without a doubt. they are among the best on D (though that too is debatable), and their top 6 can rival anyone, but they will likely have the greatest percentage of their goals having to come from the front 6.

I'd take Handzus and Mitchell well before most of the others you have on that list. Burrows and arguably Helm are the only ones I'd even give half a thought about before Handzus and Mitchell. Burrows isn't in the Nucks bottom six as he plays wing on the Sedins line.

 

[MrChangoT97]

Injuries are part of the game, but what worries me is that Doug didn't provide added depth at the forward position when it comes to the PK. We all know Handzus, Mitchell will handle PK duties, but who else on the lower lines? Will Pavelski, Marleau, Thornton, Couture, Havlat, Clowe have to be counted on to play PK also? It seems like alot to ask from your top 6. Score goals, play the PP, play the PK, are they each going to have to play 20 -25min a night?