Just a reminder to Ohio fans….

[RobToxin]

Okay.

"Quote me...."

You get what ya asked for.


I think it's funny some, but not all, ann arbor fans are so delusional they can't accept the truth. So they just keep going & going. It really does bother some of them that the only way the maze 'n blew could win a natty was to cheat.

I gotta good laugh outta your energizer bunny post. Now that I think of it shouldn't have said what I said to you, my bad. Gotta save that one for those ann arbor a-holes.

 

[PIBuckeye]

To Michigan fans he is a saint.

If he didn't know what was happening, then he was a poor leader.

I personally think he knew about it all along and gave him the green light find any way possible to beat Ohio State.

^ fully agree
And I just have to say, he’s a much alum, loves the school and program….. gets a national championship, yes with an asterisk, but then bolts…. Ok so you built the program. Build a dynasty? Nope, he bolts. Weird. Makes no sense.

 

[ericd7633]

Most Years in the past Decade Plus Michigan has had a tougher schedule than OSU on paper as far as facing seeded teams. I'll put in bold the tougher schedule each year:

2024:
Michigan: #1 Oregon, #3 Texas, #6 OSU, #8 Indiana #11 Alabama
OSU: #1 Oregon, #4 PSU, #8 Indiana

2023
Michigan: #7 OSU, #10 PSU, #17 Iowa
OSU: #1 Michigan, #10 PSU, #16 Notre Dame

2022
Michigan: #4 OSU, #11 PSU
OSU: #2 Mich, #11 PSU, #21 Notre Dame

2021:
Michigan: #6 OSU, #10 Mich St. #15 Iowa
OSU: #2 Michigan, #10 Mich St. #14 Oregon,

2019:
Michigan: #2 OSU, #8 Wisconsin, #9 Florida, #10 PSU, #15 Notre Dame #16 Iowa
OSU: #8 Wisconsin, #10 PSU, #14 Michigan

2018:
Michigan: #3 Notre Dame, #6 OSU, #12 PSU, #22 Northwestern,
OSU: #3 Notre Dame, #7 Michigan, #12 PSU, #22 Northwestern

2017:
Michigan: #5 OSU, #6 Wisconsin, #9 PSU,
OSU: #2 Oklahoma, #9 PSU, #16 Mich St

2016:
Michigan: #3 OSU, #5 PSU, #8 Wisc, #10 Colorado,
OSU: #5 PSU, #7 Oklahoma, #8 Wisc,

2015:
Michigan: #3 Mich St, #7 OSU, #13 Northwestern, #22 Utah
OSU: #3 Mich St. #14 Michigan

2014:
Michigan: #4 OSU, #8 Mich St, #25 Minnesota
OSU: #8 Michigan St. #18 Wisc, #25 Minnesota

2013:
Michigan: #2 OSU, #10 MSU
OSU: #10 MSU, #21 Wisc

2012
Michigan: #1 Notre Dame, #2 Alabama, #3 OSU #21 NW, Minn, #23 Nebraska
OSU: #19 Michigan, #23 Nebraska

IT was always frustrating watching OSU dominate the conference in the 2010's and they barely had to beat anybody some years, at least from a Michigan perspective.

Hold on. You're going to include Michigan's meaningless bowl game against Bama, but not OSU beating #9 Tenn, #1 Oregon, #5 Texas and #7 ND in the CFP? That's comical. Also, the only reason Michigan played more ranked teams (during the regular season) last season is because Michigan sucked ass.

It's also pretty comical you conveniently don't include any of OSU's opponents in the B1GCG, but all of Michigan's.

I mean for real, the 2019 schedules couldn't be anymore factually incorrect.

OSU played (final ranking): #2 Clemson (including them since you included UF), #11 Wisconsin (x2), #9 PSU, #21 Cincinnati.

Not going to go through the rest of this, but if this much was factually incorrect I'm going to guess a bunch of other info is as well.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Hold on. You're going to include Michigan's meaningless bowl game against Bama, but not OSU beating #9 Tenn, #1 Oregon, #5 Texas and #7 ND in the CFP? That's comical. Also, the only reason Michigan played more ranked teams (during the regular season) last season is because Michigan sucked ass.

It's also pretty comical you conveniently don't include any of OSU's opponents in the B1GCG, but all of Michigan's.

I mean for real, the 2019 schedules couldn't be anymore factually incorrect.

OSU played (final ranking): #2 Clemson (including them since you included UF), #11 Wisconsin (x2), #9 PSU, #21 Cincinnati.

Not going to go through the rest of this, but if this much was factually incorrect I'm going to guess a bunch of other info is as well.

If i botched anything it wasn’t on purpose. They didn’t have end of year rankings anywhere.. they always had the ranking of the team at the time they played ‘em

 

[ericd7633]

If i botched anything it wasn’t on purpose. They didn’t have end of year rankings anywhere.. they always had the ranking of the team at the time they played ‘em

Okay, but you botched a lot of things. Using your info, it would appear Michigan has played tougher schedules, but you purposely included Iowa for 2021 and 2023, and not Wisconsin in 2017 and 2019 or NW in 2018 for OSU. You can't include the B1GCG games for one and not the other. You also included bowl games for Michigan and not OSU. Whether done on purpose or not, I'm not sure, but that paints a different picture.

Also, Colorado was unranked at the time of the game in 2016, but you included them here (which I would agree with), but like I mentioned didn't include Cincinnati for OSU's in 2019. Just more inconsistencies in the comparison.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Okay, but you botched a lot of things. Using your info, it would appear Michigan has played tougher schedules, but you purposely included Iowa for 2021 and 2023, and not Wisconsin in 2017 and 2019 or NW in 2018 for OSU. You can't include the B1GCG games for one and not the other. You also included bowl games for Michigan and not OSU. Whether done on purpose or not, I'm not sure, but that paints a different picture.

Also, Colorado was unranked at the time of the game in 2016, but you included them here (which I would agree with), but like I mentioned didn't include Cincinnati for OSU's in 2019. Just more inconsistencies in the comparison.

I did a piss poor job if that’s all accurate

 

[ericd7633]

I did a piss poor job if that’s all accurate

 

[blastfromthepast]

This entire thread is 24 pages of the same two comments made over and over but I'm the one who needs new material.

If you say so, rookie.

Well, you can always just go to another thread

OR

Get some new Dad jokes.

Those are your 2 options it seems.

Until next time......

 

[blastfromthepast]

If i botched anything it wasn’t on purpose. They didn’t have end of year rankings anywhere.. they always had the ranking of the team at the time they played ‘em

Sure you did it on purpose.

Your whole point here is to make Ohio St look bad while vindicating Michigan.

If you want to trash OSU, be my guest, but don't hide behind the skirt of "OSU had broken rules before" in a lame attempt to downplay what Michigan did.

I get it, OSU hates Michigan and Michigan hates OSU. That isn't the issue, the issue is trying to go down rabbit holes with out of conference schedules, past OSU violations, and intentially watering down the Michigan scandals under Harbaugh.

 

[RobToxin]

Well, you can always just go to another thread

OR

Get some new Dad jokes.

Those are your 2 options it seems.

Until next time......

Or....

Option 3.

You can check your self-importance at the door.

Wannabe message board hall monitor.

 

[fritowrdo]

^ fully agree
And I just have to say, he’s a much alum, loves the school and program….. gets a national championship, yes with an asterisk, but then bolts…. Ok so you built the program. Build a dynasty? Nope, he bolts. Weird. Makes no sense.

He knew the walls where closing in and bolted.

I think Harbaugh will do anything to win. Just his type of personality. He will do the same in NFL, just how he is.

 

[blastfromthepast]

Or....

Option 3.

You can check your self-importance at the door.

Wannabe message board hall monitor.

LOL!

Yet, I am the one with the liked posts and engaging in the actual topic regarding Michigan cheating.

You are the one with lame Dad jokes who keeps finding ways to try to be funny.

I suggest another approach as its just not working for you.

OR

You can come back in a few pages and crack another sophmoric joke. We will no doubt wait to be entertained. May I suggest something from The Simpsons or Wayne's World perhaps? You can't do Spiderman or the Energizer Bunny again though. I am sure you will come up with something clever.

 

[PIBuckeye]

Ok, the scUM scandal is heating up again. connor evidently was interviewed again.

Mich. desperately tried to self discipline by giving Moore a 2 game suspension (what fucking good do these do, I mean really???) and curious its for games 3 & 4. A good OC and DC can take care of the team in these situations. you want to impress anyone? suspend the HC, OC, and DC........... Oh, and I thought "mich. did nothing wrong", so why are they self imposing penalties???

anyway, what are the option penalties/discipline on the table? Especially since we are now in the world of NIL and transfer portals?

- do scholarship reductions mean anything anymore?
- coach suspensions............ ho hum.
- bowl bans?
- vacated wins?
- fines?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

scUM

Even this let’s me know you’re too emotional and really not equipped to talk about it

 

[PIBuckeye]

Even this let’s me know you’re too emotional and really not equipped to talk about it

oh come on.

 

[PIBuckeye]

So, you believe that Michigan has refused to settle with the NCAA for nineteen months because Moore deleted some text messages. Here's a NEWS FLASH for you. This NCAA hearing is a very rare event. Very few Notice of Alleged Violations ever get carried this far. The NCAA is threatening to not recognize your "natty." That is why Michigan is fighting so hard and why this is dragging out.Let me explain SpyGate to you. The NCAA has had a couple rules on the books for about thirty years: (1) no advanced scouting. (2) no electronic surveillance. Michigan violated these two rules more than fifty times over the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons. The NCAA has Stalions's spreadsheet with all the details. They know who did the illegal scouting. They know how much money, thousands and thousands of dollars, was paid for the tickets, transportation, etc. They know who paid the money--a UofM official. Before Stalions, Michigan was winning 65% of their games and beating the spread 45% of the time. During Stalions's tenure, Michigan won 95% of their games and beat the spread an astronomical 68% of the time. (It's a wonder someone was taking advantage of insider knowledge and betting on Michigan.) Michigan was cheating, and it was really bad.But it gets worse1) Because of CheeseburgerGate, Michigan and Moore are flagged as repeat offenders.(2) There were compliance violations, i.e. Michigan coaches knew of rule violations and didn't report them.(3) Michigan obstructed the investigation, lied, stonewalled, and destroyed evidence. For example, one of those texts Moore deleted was an invitation to a Central Michigan coach to meet with Stalions in Ann Arbor.IMO, Michigan is going to get recruiting restrictions, a massive fine, and a two-year post season bowl ban. I'm going to be very surprised if they don't get every game they won against an "illegally scouted" opponent vacated. I believe Moore's self-imposed two game suspension is "too little, too late."

 

[blastfromthepast]

Even this let’s me know you’re too emotional and really not equipped to talk about it

Same with you. You can't even respond to me because you are too embarassed.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

So, you believe that Michigan has refused to settle with the NCAA for nineteen months because Moore deleted some text messages. Here's a NEWS FLASH for you. This NCAA hearing is a very rare event. Very few Notice of Alleged Violations ever get carried this far. The NCAA is threatening to not recognize your "natty." That is why Michigan is fighting so hard and why this is dragging out.Let me explain SpyGate to you. The NCAA has had a couple rules on the books for about thirty years: (1) no advanced scouting. (2) no electronic surveillance. Michigan violated these two rules more than fifty times over the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons. The NCAA has Stalions's spreadsheet with all the details. They know who did the illegal scouting. They know how much money, thousands and thousands of dollars, was paid for the tickets, transportation, etc. They know who paid the money--a UofM official. Before Stalions, Michigan was winning 65% of their games and beating the spread 45% of the time. During Stalions's tenure, Michigan won 95% of their games and beat the spread an astronomical 68% of the time. (It's a wonder someone was taking advantage of insider knowledge and betting on Michigan.) Michigan was cheating, and it was really bad.But it gets worse1) Because of CheeseburgerGate, Michigan and Moore are flagged as repeat offenders.(2) There were compliance violations, i.e. Michigan coaches knew of rule violations and didn't report them.(3) Michigan obstructed the investigation, lied, stonewalled, and destroyed evidence. For example, one of those texts Moore deleted was an invitation to a Central Michigan coach to meet with Stalions in Ann Arbor.IMO, Michigan is going to get recruiting restrictions, a massive fine, and a two-year post season bowl ban. I'm going to be very surprised if they don't get every game they won against an "illegally scouted" opponent vacated. I believe Moore's self-imposed two game suspension is "too little, too late."

We’ll see.. I think they’ll get fines, a suspension, and some revoked scholarships. I don’t think they should have any games or title taken, but what does my or your opinion matter on the subject.

No need to make any posturing claims. Nobody knows what will happen. Let’s just wait and see. If Michigan has major things happen you can gloat all you want. If they don’t you can pout all you want

 

[blastfromthepast]

So, you believe that Michigan has refused to settle with the NCAA for nineteen months because Moore deleted some text messages. Here's a NEWS FLASH for you. This NCAA hearing is a very rare event. Very few Notice of Alleged Violations ever get carried this far. The NCAA is threatening to not recognize your "natty." That is why Michigan is fighting so hard and why this is dragging out.Let me explain SpyGate to you. The NCAA has had a couple rules on the books for about thirty years: (1) no advanced scouting. (2) no electronic surveillance. Michigan violated these two rules more than fifty times over the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons. The NCAA has Stalions's spreadsheet with all the details. They know who did the illegal scouting. They know how much money, thousands and thousands of dollars, was paid for the tickets, transportation, etc. They know who paid the money--a UofM official. Before Stalions, Michigan was winning 65% of their games and beating the spread 45% of the time. During Stalions's tenure, Michigan won 95% of their games and beat the spread an astronomical 68% of the time. (It's a wonder someone was taking advantage of insider knowledge and betting on Michigan.) Michigan was cheating, and it was really bad.But it gets worse1) Because of CheeseburgerGate, Michigan and Moore are flagged as repeat offenders.(2) There were compliance violations, i.e. Michigan coaches knew of rule violations and didn't report them.(3) Michigan obstructed the investigation, lied, stonewalled, and destroyed evidence. For example, one of those texts Moore deleted was an invitation to a Central Michigan coach to meet with Stalions in Ann Arbor.IMO, Michigan is going to get recruiting restrictions, a massive fine, and a two-year post season bowl ban. I'm going to be very surprised if they don't get every game they won against an "illegally scouted" opponent vacated. I believe Moore's self-imposed two game suspension is "too little, too late."

Its laughable because if you replace "Michigan" with Florida St, Oregon, or Alabama, Michigan fans would not be as near as forgiving and would want action taken. They would be singing a different tune and they know it.

If OSU was the culprit here, they would want the Death Penalty for sure.

 

[ellupo]

Most Years in the past Decade Plus Michigan has had a tougher schedule than OSU on paper as far as facing seeded teams. I'll put in bold the tougher schedule each year:

2024:
Michigan: #1 Oregon, #3 Texas, #6 OSU, #8 Indiana #11 Alabama
OSU: #1 Oregon, #4 PSU, #8 Indiana

2023
Michigan: #7 OSU, #10 PSU, #17 Iowa
OSU: #1 Michigan, #10 PSU, #16 Notre Dame

2022
Michigan: #4 OSU, #11 PSU
OSU: #2 Mich, #11 PSU, #21 Notre Dame

2021:
Michigan: #6 OSU, #10 Mich St. #15 Iowa
OSU: #2 Michigan, #10 Mich St. #14 Oregon,

2019:
Michigan: #2 OSU, #8 Wisconsin, #9 Florida, #10 PSU, #15 Notre Dame #16 Iowa
OSU: #8 Wisconsin, #10 PSU, #14 Michigan

2018:
Michigan: #3 Notre Dame, #6 OSU, #12 PSU, #22 Northwestern,
OSU: #3 Notre Dame, #7 Michigan, #12 PSU, #22 Northwestern

2017:
Michigan: #5 OSU, #6 Wisconsin, #9 PSU,
OSU: #2 Oklahoma, #9 PSU, #16 Mich St

2016:
Michigan: #3 OSU, #5 PSU, #8 Wisc, #10 Colorado,
OSU: #5 PSU, #7 Oklahoma, #8 Wisc,

2015:
Michigan: #3 Mich St, #7 OSU, #13 Northwestern, #22 Utah
OSU: #3 Mich St. #14 Michigan

2014:
Michigan: #4 OSU, #8 Mich St, #25 Minnesota
OSU: #8 Michigan St. #18 Wisc, #25 Minnesota

2013:
Michigan: #2 OSU, #10 MSU
OSU: #10 MSU, #21 Wisc

2012
Michigan: #1 Notre Dame, #2 Alabama, #3 OSU #21 NW, Minn, #23 Nebraska
OSU: #19 Michigan, #23 Nebraska

IT was always frustrating watching OSU dominate the conference in the 2010's and they barely had to beat anybody some years, at least from a Michigan perspective.

Mi only had a tougher schedule in very few years due to playing THE. You are welcome.