Jayden Daniels ~ ‘that’s our QB’

[Caliskinsfan]

Honestly surprised that Caleb didn't get the nod this week

 

[skinsdad62]

There's a history, I'll leave it at that. When someone wants to claim the demands of a QB in today's game is the same as the demands of a QB playing in the 30's who called his own plays out of a playbook of 20 pages and throws the ball 9 times a game it becomes frustrating to even have a conversation.

Stop cherry picking what I said , roles were different but no less demanding

 

[skinsdad62]

The history is simple , he tried to set up a trap for a POV he had about news coverage and I didn’t bite , simple as that

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Pretty interesting article

Jayden Daniels' mother added to growing list of NFL parents who have also become agents​

Regina Jackson recently became a certified NFL agent​

By Jonathan Jones

2 hrs ago•4 min read

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The last few months have treated Jayden Daniels and his family quite nicely.
Daniels, the No. 2 overall pick for the Washington Commanders, is the frontrunner for NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year after a stellar first five starts to his career. And all the while, his mother, Regina Jackson, became a certified agent in the NFL.
Based on CBS Sports research and conversations around the league, it's likely Jackson is the first parent of a top-three draft pick in NFL history to become a certified agent. And Jackson adds to a growing list of NFL parents who are joining the agent ranks.
Jackson became an NFL Players Association certified agent within the past month, passing the exam that was administered in late July.
"For her, taking the agent's test is because she wants to be knowledgeable and helping her son and guiding him through his NFL career," said Denise White, a public relations specialist who works with Jayden Daniels and his family. "It's important for her to have all that knowledge so she can give her son guidance, which will help him focus on the field and she can help focus off the field for him."

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Jackson is not listed among Daniels' representation. The young star has four agents on file with the NFLPA. He's represented by the quartet of Ira Turner, Ron Butler, Aston Wilson and Stanley Bien-Aime, all of Agency 1 Sports.
Daniels signed a four-year contract worth $37.75 million in June after being drafted in April. Rookie deals have been slotted ever since the 2011 collective bargaining agreement, and teams can't extend or renegotiate with players until the conclusion of their third season.
Jackson, who White said holds an MBA in concentration entrepreneurship and a masters in public services administration, has been working toward being an agent dating back to Daniels's collegiate days.

"I think any businessperson with the education that she's had, the leadership she's had and companies that she's worked with... it would only make sense to me that she's instilled this incredible work ethic in him," White says. "Her focus is making sure she has all the tools and knowledge she can to guide him through his rookie season and his NFL career."

 

[Shack]

I can argue it because they called plays . And yes my definition of franchise qb is elite nor did I say tier 2 is a game manager . . It is easier to win with a franchise qb but it isn’t the end all be all

I think you may be using draft selection number to determine "franchise" QB. Brock Purdy was the last pick but is SF's franchise QB. Just like Bryce Young who was #1 will never be anyone's franchise QB, but based on draft spot, you have the inverse.

 

[skinsdad62]

I think you may be using draft selection number to determine "franchise" QB. Brock Purdy was the last pick but is SF's franchise QB. Just like Bryce Young who was #1 will never be anyone's franchise QB, but based on draft spot, you have the inverse.

i dont consider purdy a franchise guy yet

 

[Stymietee]

The entire debate over what constitutes a "Franchise QB" is based on an absence of reasonableness, practical thought, and an easy acceptance of the term being applied equally to every individual who's tagged with that title, in part because there aren't alternatives.

It is an ambiguous term that has been summed up roughly as... "A Franchise quarterback is one who is average or better— a quarterback you would rather pay big money than explore the alternatives or one who a team will pay even if you don't. This quarterback is often seen as the face of the franchise and is crucial to the team's long-term success."

Now if you've read the above you might have taken a few mental notes, specifically,

1. "Average or better"

2. "long-term success"

Neither of these could or should be applied to all equally considering their definitive ambiguousness.
So how do we move towards resolving undefined debates to qualified disambiguation debates when using "Franchise QB?'
Perhaps the better question is... why aren't we referring to a franchise quarterback in more defined terms as outlined in the following? (At least we'd know what we're more specifically talking about)

Tier 1 franchise QB
A Tier 1 quarterback can carry his team each week. The team wins and is a championship contender/winner because of him. He expertly handles pure-passing situations. He has no real holes in his game.

Tier 2 franchise QB
A Tier 2 quarterback can carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can handle pure-passing situations in doses and/or possesses or other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier 3. He has an uncorrectable hole or two in his game which often prevents him from reaching contender and championship levels.

Tier 3 franchise QB
A Tier 3 quarterback is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier running game and/or defensive component to win. A lower-volume dropback passing offense suits him best.

In comparison to the above, I'll add this tier which unlike any of the three above is NOT a "Franchise QB," but is more aptly described as a journeyman, backup.

Tier 4 Non-franchise QB
A Tier 4 quarterback who is generally a veteran and ideally would not start all 17 games.

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[Caliskinsfan]

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

The entire debate over what constitutes a "Franchise QB" is based on an absence of reasonableness, practical thought, and an easy acceptance of the term being applied equally to every individual who's tagged with that title, in part because there aren't alternatives.

It is an ambiguous term that has been summed up roughly as... "A Franchise quarterback is one who is average or better— a quarterback you would rather pay big money than explore the alternatives or one who a team will pay even if you don't. This quarterback is often seen as the face of the franchise and is crucial to the team's long-term success."

Now if you've read the above you might have taken a few mental notes, specifically,

1. "Average or better"

2. "long-term success"

Neither of these could or should be applied to all equally considering their definitive ambiguousness.
So how do we move towards resolving undefined debates to qualified disambiguation debates when using "Franchise QB?'
Perhaps the better question is... why aren't we referring to a franchise quarterback in more defined terms as outlined in the following? (At least we'd know what we're more specifically talking about)

Tier 1 franchise QB
A Tier 1 quarterback can carry his team each week. The team wins and is a championship contender/winner because of him. He expertly handles pure-passing situations. He has no real holes in his game.

Tier 2 franchise QB
A Tier 2 quarterback can carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can handle pure-passing situations in doses and/or possesses or other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier 3. He has an uncorrectable hole or two in his game which often prevents him from reaching contender and championship levels.

Tier 3 franchise QB
A Tier 3 quarterback is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier running game and/or defensive component to win. A lower-volume dropback passing offense suits him best.

In comparison to the above, I'll add this tier which unlike any of the three above is NOT a "Franchise QB," but is more aptly described as a journeyman, backup.

Tier 4 Non-franchise QB
A Tier 4 quarterback who is generally a veteran and ideally would not start all 17 games.

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Obviously what is a franchise QB is subjective. But I haven't heard anyone other than here say that means elite. I also don't consider every QB above your Tier 4 to be franchise QBs.

Trevor Lawrence or Geno Smith are good enough to start but nobody considers them franchise QBs. There are probably a dozen franchise QBs in the league at any point in time. Are Goff or Darnold franchise QBS? Like Rypien at the moment they are playing like it but you need several seasons of high level play to be considered a franchise QB IMO.

 

[redskinsfan1963]

wtf does it matter what you call him as long as he plays great every gd week?

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Franchise QB arguments blowing up my ‘thread to track Jayden Daniels accomplishments’ making me LOL at this point.



Might have to create a ‘Franchise QB‘ thread for y’all to go at it making it hard to see 1 Jayden post per page at this rate!

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Franchise QB arguments blowing up my ‘thread to track Jayden Daniels accomplishments’ making me LOL at this point.



Might have to create a ‘Franchise QB‘ thread for y’all to go at it making it hard to see 1 Jayden post per page at this rate!

I sorry. I'll close by saying Jayden looks to be a franchise QB and elite!

 

[Caliskinsfan]

I sorry. I'll close by saying Jayden looks to be a franchise QB and elite!

Nah, all good my friend.

Any thread is open for these type of discussions!

and YAY. Jayden Daniels our guy!

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Nah, all good my friend.

Any thread is open for these type of discussions!

and YAY. Jayden Daniels our guy!

2 more sleeps and we get to see our boy again. Can't wait.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

2 more sleeps and we get to see our boy again. Can't wait.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

This Cracked me up

 

[j_y19]

I sorry. I'll close by saying Jayden looks to be a franchise QB and elite!

I think we can all agree on that!

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[kbso83432]

 

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JDs playing great, but we’re happy with Caleb.