Jacksonville University drops football

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1AA/FCS teams can have up to 63 scholarships. BUTTTTT....every scholarship you give to a male athlete you have to also give one to a female athlete due to title 9.

1A/FBS can have 85 scholarships. But similarly if you do...you need to have 85 female athletes on scholarship as well.

For your big schools with 80,000+ seat stadiums with 7 home games, the finances work well.

For medium schools that sell 40,000 tix for 5-7 home games....the finances kinda work. Schools with a football team tend to get more alumni donations outside of ticket sales.

For small schools that maybe only sell 5-10k home tickets the finances can be unfavorable.

 

[tabascojet]

1AA/FCS teams can have up to 63 scholarships. BUTTTTT....every scholarship you give to a male athlete you have to also give one to a female athlete due to title 9.

1A/FBS can have 85 scholarships. But similarly if you do...you need to have 85 female athletes on scholarship as well.

For your big schools with 80,000+ seat stadiums with 7 home games, the finances work well.

For medium schools that sell 40,000 tix for 5-7 home games....the finances kinda work. Schools with a football team tend to get more alumni donations outside of ticket sales.

For small schools that maybe only sell 5-10k home tickets the finances can be unfavorable.

once again....PIONEER FOOTBALL IS NON SCHOLARSHIP
apparently giving all your displaced football players academic scholarships to stay at the school is cheaper than playing the football games

 

[Cave_Johnson]

I don't doubt that. Imagine being in a conference like this while trying to save money.

I imagine they save some of the money by not giving scholarships to their players in that league. It's also not like those schools really care about football. To my knowledge there are at least 4 FCS conferences that either offer no scholarships or offer fewer than the max number of scholarships for football. Basically these are all schools that have football just to say that they have football. The Pioneer league team that makes the FCS playoff regularly gets destroyed because they're just not playing on an even field with the FCS schools that actually try.

And the number of FCS schools that actually try to win the championship is lower than most think. About 1/3 of that subdivision either doesn't participate in the playoff or doesn't compete with a full allotment of scholarships. It's pretty terrible.

 

[rmilia1]

Historically Jacksonville is a much bigger basketball school anyway ( though the majority of their success came in the 70s and 80s including a national championship game loss to ucla )

 

[CaptainStubing]

i would imagine all small schools have trouble sustaining their programs.

 

[NolePride]

Yes, imagine being San Diego and your closest conference foe is in Iowa.

I read an article in the Lexington Herald-Leader about them and that league 10 or so years ago.

They are very creative in how they travel. They save 1,000's of dollars by pricing everything out.
They fly commercial into a place like Cincinnati, (non-stop) then take buses to Morehead St, a couple
of hundred miles away. They don't stay at the Hyatt. (Morehead, doesn't have one anyway.) Motel 6
is probably the big one there. They are very innovated. It was an interesting article.

 

[NolePride]

Did the Jax Coach say if he was interested in remaining in the state to coach next year?

 

[BamaDude]

The problem with the non-scholarship FCS model is that they can't play FBS "money games" to help with their expenses. The FBS bylaws require you to play teams that give out a certain percentage of the allotted scholarship limits in order to count those teams as a win towards bowl eligibility. The lack off access to that money can be a burden on smaller programs like Jacksonville that only draw 1,000 or so fans for their home games.

Some of them may be able to schedule pay-day games against some of the bigger & more successful FCS schools, but the payouts would be much less than what they could get from an FBS opponent.

 

[Yo Tee]

I don't doubt that. Imagine being in a conference like this while trying to save money.

Why are teams on opposite sides of the country playing in the same conference?! Can you imagine how much it costs for Marist to fly to San Diego and vice versa. Jesus Christ.

 

[BamaDude]

Why are teams on opposite sides of the country playing in the same conference?! Can you imagine how much it costs for Marist to fly to San Diego and vice versa. Jesus Christ.

When this league first started there were only about a half dozen teams. USD got into the league because they were the only non-scholarship FCS team on the West Coast. The league has practically doubled from its early days, but the Toreros are still a member.

 

[jjc2009]

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Not absolutely horrible for 21 years. They must be in the red.

Bingo.


MOST CFB programs operate in the red. The idea that football funds entire athletic departments, let alone the school at large is one of the more enduring bullshit myths out there.

Outside the very cream of the crop or old blue bloods, most football programs can barely pay their own bills.

UConn is going independent. They’ll probably drop football altogether in a few years.

Buffalo flirted with dropping their program recently.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

I don't doubt that. Imagine being in a conference like this while trying to save money.

Go PC Blue Hose!!!

 

[Deathroll]

JU is a small private school. There’s simply no way they can compete. Their longtime coach Kerwin Bell did an absolutely masterful job to make them as good as they were. They sometimes had to compete against other schools which did offer scholarships.

Kerwin took over Valdosta State a few years ago. Once again their offense was really prolific and they won a national championship.

 

[HuskerOC]

In other news...

12 SEC ADs just got a notice that they need to change their future schedules.