J Roll, 5/50??

[tzill]

Even just a teeny wittle bit? Aw, come on, Uncle Larry! Put on a bow tie and make things happen!

Larry is a Lowellite...we don't give up the scrilla so easily...

 

[Heathbar012]

Larry is a Lowellite...we don't give up the scrilla so easily...

SSS! I need a heat map of cheapness and some sources.

 

[tzill]

SSS! I need a heat map of cheapness and some sources.

 

[SF11704]

Just read on the MLB boards that J-Roll is looking for 5 years. 4 years with a 1 year option. His option. They also brought up an interesting comparision. At 36 Jeter signed a 3 yr deal for 51M. J-Roll is 33. They are guessing that the numbers will be structured very similar. I thought 38M for 3 years was pushing it to the limit. He's been declining since his 2007 season. No way do I see us offering five years and no way do I see us going near 50M for 3!

 

[coffeeman]

If it were up to me, I'd grab Rollins (assuming he'd take it) for a 3 year, $37.5mil contract and then I'd go grab Crisp for a 2 year, $15mil contract. These two aren't my ideal people to pick up, but it sounds like the FO won't break the bank this offseason.....and these two seem to offer the most bang for the buck.

This is the way I would go as well. Tell him to go grab his buddy CC and come on home.

Giants in the Mix for CC Sabathia: Report | NBC Bay Area

 

[SFGRTB]

This is the way I would go as well. Tell him to go grab his buddy CC and come on home.

Giants in the Mix for CC Sabathia: Report | NBC Bay Area

There are sometimes I wish we were the Yankees and signed whoever the hell we wanted. Then I remembered that the Yankee's have only 1 title the last 10 years despite that... and everybody hates the Yankees.

 

[calsnowskier]

There are sometimes I wish we were the Yankees and signed whoever the hell we wanted. Then I remembered that the Yankee's have only 1 title the last 10 years despite that... and everybody hates the Yankees.

Me too, but ultimately, I like the home-grown guys better than the hired-guns.

Nate has a special place in my heart because he is a home-grown guy. If we got him in a trade or as a FA, than who cares. Kinda like Fontenot or Keppy. Good players, but who gives a shit?

 

[SFGRTB]

Me too, but ultimately, I like the home-grown guys better than the hired-guns.

Nate has a special place in my heart because he is a home-grown guy. If we got him in a trade or as a FA, than who cares. Kinda like Fontenot or Keppy. Good players, but who gives a shit?

Exactly. Also, look at Cody. Playoffs hero, yes. But after this last year most are willing to cast him off. If he was a home grown player, he'd be a Giant forever.

 

[CameronFrye]

This is the way I would go as well. Tell him to go grab his buddy CC and come on home.

Giants in the Mix for CC Sabathia: Report | NBC Bay Area

I hope you all realize that his "rumor" was drummed up by some agent to get more money for CC. There is absolutely ZERO chance that they could afford to bring him to the Bay Area. Plus, if they had that kind of money, one would figure they would spend it on a hitter first. The rotation is not a problem for the Giants. The guys with the long sticks in their hands swinging wildly at nothing in particular is where the deficiencies lie.

 

[calsnowskier]

I hope you all realize that his "rumor" was drummed up by some agent to get more money for CC. There is absolutely ZERO chance that they could afford to bring him to the Bay Area. Plus, if they had that kind of money, one would figure they would spend it on a hitter first. The rotation is not a problem for the Giants. The guys with the long sticks in their hands swinging wildly at nothing in particular is where the deficiencies lie.

While it would be SICK to see rotation of Timmeh, CC, Bum, Cain and Song (yes, this is the order I see it coming down to), It would not ultimately result in very many additional wins. If the money were there to CC, they would need to go for Beltran, Reyes and a SOLID backup catcher.

Since the money is NOT there, lets get Crisp, make a stab at Beltran, and get a lower-end starting catcher as our back-up. Anything left over goes into the Save-Timmeh fund.

 

[tzill]

While it would be SICK to see rotation of Timmeh, CC, Bum, Cain and Song (yes, this is the order I see it coming down to), It would not ultimately result in very many additional wins. If the money were there to CC, they would need to go for Beltran, Reyes and a SOLID backup catcher.

Since the money is NOT there, lets get Crisp, make a stab at Beltran, and get a lower-end starting catcher as our back-up. Anything left over goes into the Save-Timmeh fund.

This. And let's kick the tires on JRoll.

 

[coffeeman]

I hope you all realize that his "rumor" was drummed up by some agent to get more money for CC. There is absolutely ZERO chance that they could afford to bring him to the Bay Area. Plus, if they had that kind of money, one would figure they would spend it on a hitter first. The rotation is not a problem for the Giants. The guys with the long sticks in their hands swinging wildly at nothing in particular is where the deficiencies lie.

Well said. HF award worthy....

 

[SF11704]

Didn't we go through this CC routine the first time! I actually remember reading quite a bit about the SF interest and CC being willing to play in SF. Then I remember the NYY throwing a ton of money at him --- and that's when story ended

Same Shit Different Day

 

[calsnowskier]

Didn't we go through this CC routine the first time! I actually remember reading quite a bit about the SF interest and CC being willing to play in SF. Then I remember the NYY throwing a ton of money at him --- and that's when story ended

Same Shit Different Day

CC grew up a Giant fan, so he will be linked to the Giants every time he is available.

He is also a unicorn so the Giants HAVE to at least talk to him and his team to see how things look.

But the current makeup of the team and the makeup of the current payroll dictate that it would be one HELL of a strange set of circumstances that result in him playing for the Giants next year.

 

[CameronFrye]

Well said. HF award worthy....

I resemble that remark.

 

[the_broom]

CC grew up a Giant fan, so he will be linked to the Giants every time he is available.

He is also a unicorn so the Giants HAVE to at least talk to him and his team to see how things look.

But the current makeup of the team and the makeup of the current payroll dictate that it would be one HELL of a strange set of circumstances that result in him playing for the Giants next year.

I agree...but remember one thing....no one saw Cliff Lee landing with the Philles last year...no one thought they would have the money.

 

[Heathbar012]

I agree...but remember one thing....no one saw Cliff Lee landing with the Philles last year...no one thought they would have the money.

The Phillies are going to go after Jose Reyes. They always have the money. Their organization is ran differently from the Giants. Recently, they have had similar success rates. As frustrating as it may be sometimes, I prefer the way that the Giants are ran.

 

[GiantsPackersChamps2011]

3 years 35 million
You get to play in the most beautiful park ever made
You get to play for your favorite team as a kid
You get to play defense for 4 awesome pitchers
You get to be a San Francisco Giant


Take it or Leave it J-ROll

 

[calsnowskier]

3 years 35 million
You get to play in the most beautiful park ever made
You get to play for your favorite team as a kid
You get to play defense for 4 awesome pitchers
You get to be a San Francisco Giant


Take it or Leave it J-ROll

side note...

I am NOT interested in Rollins if the Phils offer him Arbitration...

 

[filosofy29]

I'd rather go 3/$37.5 than either of the 4/$44 or 5/$50, but 3/$37.5 is the most I'd offer JRoll. Hopefully he'd take it if he didn't have any better offers, but I'm sure he'll find something better than my offer.

Wonder if this would've been enough. My guess is he'd still want that 4th year option. Oh well. Would've been nice to have him in the lineup. Especially with a guy like Crawford who can come in as a defensive replacement and spell him occasionally.

That lineup would have been oh so nice:

1. Rollins - SS
2. Pagan - CF
3. Sandoval - 3B
4. Posey - C
5. Huff - 1B
6. Sanchez - 2B
7. Cabrera/Belt - LF
8. Schierholtz - RF