Is the NFL manipulating games for profit?

[SonnyCID]

Gives us the timestamps of these obvious holds on the YouTube video.

 

[WizardHawk]

So who is this 'deep throat' this post was made about? Some schmuck who calls himself maximum winnings. This article is from a gambling related site in which this is this guys only post. He has a facebook page and all of 14 friends on it and hasn't posted on the account in years.

This enlightened genius is a fucking nobody. Worse than a nobody. Inside info? Not really. Just some dude who looked up things on the net and in books by other paranoid delusional nitwits and made a post about it.

That's what our friend Ram here is hanging his hat on.

There are literally dozens of sites talking about game fixing (mostly the same regurgitated stuff from a few books mostly) and dozens more discrediting them. And nearly no one pays any attention to either. Show us proof or stay in your delusional state. All the same to me.

 

[ram29jackson]

Gives us the timestamps of these obvious holds on the YouTube video.

the entire scenario speaks for itself. If you are gullible enough to believe that can happen you have lost touch with reality.

I thought you were a knowledgeable sports fan. You should be able to put 2 and 2 together. These are perfect examples but you chirp the same junk you've been fed for years.

people are lied too so much they don't even know when its happening anymore.

a hardly played back up does the same thing as a so called young star and you think it was totally believable and perfectly explainable in both situations. The impossible always happens in sports and no one questions it.

a lie is a lie is a lie

 

[ram29jackson]

So who is this 'deep throat' this post was made about? Some schmuck who calls himself maximum winnings. This article is from a gambling related site in which this is this guys only post. He has a facebook page and all of 14 friends on it and hasn't posted on the account in years.

This enlightened genius is a fucking nobody. Worse than a nobody. Inside info? Not really. Just some dude who looked up things on the net and in books by other paranoid delusional nitwits and made a post about it.

That's what our friend Ram here is hanging his hat on.

There are literally dozens of sites talking about game fixing (mostly the same regurgitated stuff from a few books mostly) and dozens more discrediting them. And nearly no one pays any attention to either. Show us proof or stay in your delusional state. All the same to me.

IE you have no valid counterpoint. It doesn't matter your opinion of the guy or his writing. What matters is whether things are manipulated and you have to think twice when dwelling on these examples/videos.

all you can do is say 'you don't know what you are saying, you are stupid' ..sure ,yeah, great counterpoint. The fact is you cant handle the truth in these videos. In hindsight you have to admit how far fetched and too common it is. This happens every week in the NFL and you think its normal.

a lie is a lie is a lie

 

[WizardHawk]

Dude, the article you are championing was made by a guy who sounds like his nickname was given to him by Charley Sheen ffs.

 

[WizardHawk]

IE you have no valid counterpoint. It doesn't matter your opinion of the guy or his writing. What matters is whether things are manipulated and you have to think twice when dwelling on these examples/videos.

all you can do is say 'you don't know what you are saying, you are stupid' ..sure ,yeah, great counterpoint. The fact is you cant handle the truth in these videos. In hindsight you have to admit how far fetched and too common it is. This happens every week in the NFL and you think its normal.

a lie is a lie is a lie

YOU have presented no facts of any kind, just an 'article' (term used very loosely here) by someone who doesn't actually present any proof, just assumptions made from video he has watched and things he read in a book.

Sorry, but that's /endthread

There is nothing to counter, because there is no substance to challenge. As I said, I've seen several sites with the same drivel and most have some counter site beating it up. NONE are by any well known or respected writers. This is REQUIRED for any of the supposed research to be taken seriously.

I did love the site I found with someone debunking that the NFCCG this year was fixed for Seattle to win though. San Francisco 49ers: Putting to Bed Allegations of NFC Championship Being Rigged | Bleacher Report

 

[ram29jackson]

Dude, the article you are championing was made by a guy who sounds like his nickname was given to him by Charley Sheen ffs.

I'm not 'championing' the article, I used it as a starting point

 

[SonnyCID]

the entire scenario speaks for itself. If you are gullible enough to believe that can happen you have lost touch with reality.

I thought you were a knowledgeable sports fan. You should be able to put 2 and 2 together. These are perfect examples but you chirp the same junk you've been fed for years.

people are lied too so much they don't even know when its happening anymore.

a hardly played back up does the same thing as a so called young star and you think it was totally believable and perfectly explainable in both situations. The impossible always happens in sports and no one questions it.

a lie is a lie is a lie

You're just blabbering here.

You said that Buffalo was holding a lot and it wasn't called. I assume that you could timestamp these obvious holds that the refs ignored but I guess that's asking too much.

 

[ram29jackson]

YOU have presented no facts of any kind, just an 'article' (term used very loosely here) by someone who doesn't actually present any proof, just assumptions made from video he has watched and things he read in a book.

Sorry, but that's /endthread

There is nothing to counter, because there is no substance to challenge. As I said, I've seen several sites with the same drivel and most have some counter site beating it up. NONE are by any well known or respected writers. This is REQUIRED for any of the supposed research to be taken seriously.

I did love the site I found with someone debunking that the NFCCG this year was fixed for Seattle to win though. San Francisco 49ers: Putting to Bed Allegations of NFC Championship Being Rigged | Bleacher Report

I have shown you videos and given examples that you refuse to acknowledge and contemplate with any reasoning what so ever.

you are so indoctrinated that you think the impossible happens all the time and refuse to think it through.

you think proof is a confession which is ridiculous. Deductive reasoning skills are enough to show you the examples I have given are quite adequate and proof the NFL has been doing it for years.

you are so jaded your hindsight isn't even 20/20 anymore.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

because he knows what he saw. A lie is a lie is a lie

How is that an explanation? The reason the ref didn't.call it incomplete is because he knows what he saw? Are you retarded?

If the ref or NFL had an agenda on that play, he would have called it incomplete. That video actually weakens your already pathetic conspiracy theory.

 

[WizardHawk]

I have shown you videos and given examples that you refuse to acknowledge and contemplate with any reasoning what so ever.

you are so indoctrinated that you think the impossible happens all the time and refuse to think it through.

you think proof is a confession which is ridiculous. Deductive reasoning skills are enough to show you the examples I have given are quite adequate and proof the NFL has been doing it for years.

you are so jaded your hindsight isn't even 20/20 anymore.

You've presented no proof. All you have done is regurgitate things others have written or made video's on that have all been debunked around the web as it is. They are nothing but assumptions made about specific bad calls or miracle comebacks. They aren't proof of anything. Simply aren't. If they were the massive main stream media would be all over it. In fact many have chimed in on these and helped discredit them. Oh yeah, that means they are on the payroll right? You have nothing but paranoid delusions based on assumptions. Pure and simple.

Do I think any NFL game has ever been 'fixed'? Probably. And I'm sure games being thrown or fixed in some way have happened more than once. NFL behind it and doing it regularly? No, of course not. Honestly you have to be kind of stupid to believe they are. Or a Maximum Loser.

 

[ram29jackson]

You've presented no proof. All you have done is regurgitate things others have written or made video's on that have all been debunked around the web as it is. They are nothing but assumptions made about specific bad calls or miracle comebacks. They aren't proof of anything. Simply aren't. If they were the massive main stream media would be all over it. In fact many have chimed in on these and helped discredit them. Oh yeah, that means they are on the payroll right? You have nothing but paranoid delusions based on assumptions. Pure and simple.

Do I think any NFL game has ever been 'fixed'? Probably. And I'm sure games being thrown or fixed in some way have happened more than once. NFL behind it and doing it regularly? No, of course not. Honestly you have to be kind of stupid to believe they are. Or a Maximum Loser.

wrong again, most of what i've spoken are my original memory and thoughts after maybe reiterating a few article points
how many miracle comebacks do you need to happen before you realize they are fabricated and contrived.

LOL nothing has been debunked, only hidden by those afraid to deal with it.

why can you find so many nfl things on youtube but the video of Farrior winking at tebow is taken down by the NFL and you cant find it anywhere ? because they are obviously hiding something.

everyone knows how corrupt government is and how fake tv shows are including reality tv is and theres story after story of corruption in big business etc. But you fight and fight to believe the multi billion NFL is pure as snow LOL

there is absolutely no question the NFL controls media and gambling. for its personal benefit.

you show a sarcastic article that wouldn't even be allowed to be viewed unless the NFL approved it. Everything written about them has to be approved by them. Your logic that no one has found anything is meaningless. People have found plenty but majority rules and the masses are too stupid to hear it.
he "doesnt know anything, he's a nobody." status and your opinion of anyone has nothing to do with truth being spoken.

logic and math will tell you no one can win 4 super bowls in 6 year period unless some strings are being pulled. But you act like a child with glazed eyes thinking it really did happen.

the Rooneys and the Mara's all started their fortunes in corrupt business and you want to believe they have just decided to leave that as they became richer and more powerful in the NFL ? LOL that is in fact still their business model with just more legal loopholes.

paranoid delusions my ass ...wait...whats that ?did you hear something ?

a lie is a lie is a lie


goodnight for now

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I tell you, I waver between locking this thread for stupidity or just letting it go on, because there isn't much else happening.

 

[gandydancer]

Lock it IMO Pretty much Ram making a fool of himself...

Surely discredits himself on here.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I tell you, I waver between locking this thread for stupidity or just letting it go on, because there isn't much else happening.

Lock it for stupidity because like an addict, I can't keep away.

 

[gandydancer]

Lock it for stupidity because like an addict, I can't keep away.

Damn them train wrecks...

 

[Podunkparte]

Everything

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[cowboycolors]

this about how real fixing games in the NFL is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdIhNQKgMdg&list=PLA20DAC818C423798&index=22

Enjoy

 

[(Un)]

I tell you, I waver between locking this thread for stupidity or just letting it go on, because there isn't much else happening.

If you lock it, you'll only be forcing the tinfoil hats back out into the general public.

 

[WizardHawk]

I tell you, I waver between locking this thread for stupidity or just letting it go on, because there isn't much else happening.

The bigger question is does this fool really believe this stuff, or is this just a way to get attention? You can ask him until you are blue in the face to show some actual proof, not conjecture or opinion over a bad call and yet he keeps just spewing the same nonsense with no proof. He is either a complete idiot or a troll. If you feel he is really this clueless then you might as well leave the thread up. Isn't really harming anyone but himself. If you think he is trolling he will probably just keep referencing it in other threads to annoy everyone anyway so why not just leave it here in a place where normal, sane people can avoid it.