POLL Is Brady the GOAT with a SB win this year?

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I think so.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

What if he doesn't play well and they still win it?

Sorta like last week

 

[boltfan72]

It is possible to win a Super Bowl without great QB play. See 2000 Ravens and 2016 Broncos.

If he plays great and gets another MVP, then you could make a great case. But you could already make a great case.

 

[Ricky Roma]

No. Winning SB's mean very little when it comes to actual gauging a players ability. Brady could've won 10 SB's, and if his career numbers as they are now are the same with those 10 SB's, he'd still wouldn't be. If he had 0 SB's with his career numbers as is, he'd pretty much still be the exact same player to me.

 

[The Derski]

 

[packerzrule]

 

[SeizeTheCarp]

Defense wins championships. In his Patriots career, Brady has enjoyed playing with 13 top ten defenses, although one of them was the Cassell year, so we'll give him twelve. Every time the Patriots/Brady won a Super Bowl, they had one of these top ten defenses.

On the other side of the spectrum, the Packers have only had two top ten defenses while Rodgers has been playing. And, yes, he won the Super Bowl one of those years. I wouldn't be surprised in the least that if Rodgers played with 13 top ten defenses in his career, he be considered the greatest by more people than he already is.

 

[NEhomer]

No. Winning SB's mean very little when it comes to actual gauging a players ability. Brady could've won 10 SB's, and if his career numbers as they are now are the same with those 10 SB's, he'd still wouldn't be. If he had 0 SB's with his career numbers as is, he'd pretty much still be the exact same player to me.

Defense wins championships. In his Patriots career, Brady has enjoyed playing with 13 top ten defenses, although one of them was the Cassell year, so we'll give him twelve. Every time the Patriots/Brady won a Super Bowl, they had one of these top ten defenses.

On the other side of the spectrum, the Packers have only had two top ten defenses while Rodgers has been playing. And, yes, he won the Super Bowl one of those years. I wouldn't be surprised in the least that if Rodgers played with 13 top ten defenses in his career, he be considered the greatest by more people than he already is.

6 AFC Championship games in a row. It's almost boring as a Pats fan. If he wins on Sunday he'll go to the SB nearly HALF THE MOTHERFUCKING YEARS HE'S BEEN IN THE LEAGUE.

When Tom's done I'm on to Jimmy or the next guy but do you realize how fucking pathetic you all sound? The Matt Cassell year is going on 10 years ago and you still cling to it.

 

[jarntt]

No. At this point it would kind if be a let down if they don't win it...

But, Brady has already cemented his legacy and will be one of the greatest ever regardless of what happens.

 

[sonnyblack65]

No. Winning SB's mean very little when it comes to actual gauging a players ability. Brady could've won 10 SB's, and if his career numbers as they are now are the same with those 10 SB's, he'd still wouldn't be. If he had 0 SB's with his career numbers as is, he'd pretty much still be the exact same player to me.

Who is the GOAT?

 

[SeizeTheCarp]

6 AFC Championship games in a row. It's almost boring as a Pats fan. If he wins on Sunday he'll go to the SB nearly HALF THE MOTHERFUCKING YEARS HE'S BEEN IN THE LEAGUE.

When Tom's done I'm on to Jimmy or the next guy but do you realize how fucking pathetic you all sound? The Matt Cassell year is going on 10 years ago and you still cling to it.

Don't know if you actually read my post, or just saw the word Cassell and went into full "defend" mode. But basically brushed Cassell aside rather than drawing attention to him. My only point was that the Patriots had twelve top ten defenses with Brady. Their worst defense was ranked 17th. Any elite QB could have Brady's success with that type of team backing him. Some...ahem, Rodgers...might even have more success. Just saying.

 

[NorEEzta]

Brady threw 10 TDs in the 2014 postseason and completed 37 passes in Superbowl (SB Record) 49. GOAT. The discussion was over then.

 

[purguy12]

Like I said he is 1A or 1B. He isn't on top by himself. Just my opinion and like I said i wouldn't argue with anyone that thinks he is.

 

[Rex Racer]

Bad juju, I ain't touching this one.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He's arguably the GOAT now. We all know that's subjective. But if he gets his 5th ring he should be considered the GOAT by the majority of fans. We can argue stats from era to era. We can argue what defense's he's had or didn't have. We can bring up the multiple records he and NE have set with him behind center. We can argue it's the system.
What won't be argued is he'll have 5 rings. If he gets the MVP, forgetaboutit he's the GOAT for sure. If he plays terrible he'll still have 5 effin rings more than most franchises.All with one team in the salary cap era, that's sick.

 

[NEhomer]

Don't know if you actually read my post, or just saw the word Cassell and went into full "defend" mode. But basically brushed Cassell aside rather than drawing attention to him. My only point was that the Patriots had twelve top ten defenses with Brady. Their worst defense was ranked 17th. Any elite QB could have Brady's success with that type of team backing him. Some...ahem, Rodgers...might even have more success. Just saying.

Yeah, I read your post. You referenced Cassell. You're gay for Rodgers.

I got it.

 

[Voltaire26]

He's arguably the GOAT now. We all know that's subjective. But if he gets his 5th ring he should be considered the GOAT by the majority of fans. We can argue stats from era to era. We can argue what defense's he's had or didn't have. We can bring up the multiple records he and NE have set with him behind center. We can argue it's the system.
What won't be argued is he'll have 5 rings. If he gets the MVP, forgetaboutit he's the GOAT for sure. If he plays terrible he'll still have 5 effin rings more than most franchises.All with one team in the salary cap era, that's sick.

Not bad for a 6th round pick!

 

[Ricky Roma]

Who is the GOAT?

Going only by the guys I've seen, and that includes the end of Unitas' career.

Joe Montana.

 

[Ricky Roma]

When Tom's done I'm on to Jimmy or the next guy but do you realize how fucking pathetic you all sound? The Matt Cassell year is going on 10 years ago and you still cling to it.

Hmmm....don't see any reference to Matt Cassell in my post.

 

[NEhomer]

Hmmm....don't see any reference to Matt Cassell in my post.

Correct. That was the other hater. You claimed that 10 SB wins wouldn't change your mind.

That's retarded.