Is Bill Belichick

[raoul]

One playoff win without Tom Brady = Not the GOAT

 

[DJ]

Do you honestly know one fucking thing about football?

Every great coach rode the coat tail of a great QB.

Shula = Unitas and Marino
Belichick = Brady
Walsh = Montana
Landry = Starbach
Reid = Mahomes

Every single one of them had a great QB.

Name one that didn't after the forward pass was legalized.

Name one that didn't and is the HOF. Name one on the 12 teams that haven't won a Super Bowl that's in the HOF.

Harbaugh in Baltimore.

Trent Dilfer.

Go back farther and you can find more....

 

[dtgold88]

Harbaugh in Baltimore.

Trent Dilfer.

Go back farther and you can find more....

Wasn't Dilfer under Billick?......though will say IMO Billick was highly overrated.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Wasn't Dilfer under Billick?......though will say IMO Billick was highly overrated.

Yeah, he was and had arguably a defense on par with the mid 80's Bears.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Ok, I know Terry Bradshaw retired the year I was born and I'm 40. So I'm speaking a bit out of ignorance. But his numbers don't strike me as a guy that carried his teams. Even for the time.

I think one of the guys that Bradshaw beat in the Super Bowl, Fran Tarkenton, had far better numbers. Although I'm sure Fran would trade all of his stats for one of Terry's titles.

Point is, I think Chuck Noll is underrated as a coach that assembled a great defense and great weapons around him.

 

[PDay8810]

He couldn't spell cat even spotting him the c and the a.

but

he was the first chip.

 

[DJ]

Ok, I know Terry Bradshaw retired the year I was born and I'm 40. So I'm speaking a bit out of ignorance. But his numbers don't strike me as a guy that carried his teams. Even for the time.

I think one of the guys that Bradshaw beat in the Super Bowl, Fran Tarkenton, had far better numbers. Although I'm sure Fran would trade all of his stats for one of Terry's titles.

Point is, I think Chuck Noll is underrated as a coach that assembled a great defense and great weapons around him.

Bradshaw was a pretty good QB.

Different era with different rules.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah, he was and had arguably a defense on par with the mid 80's Bears.

Exactly,......he owes much of their success to Marvin Lewis. Billick was hired for his offense and often his O was in the way, at best.

 

[dtgold88]

Ok, I know Terry Bradshaw retired the year I was born and I'm 40. So I'm speaking a bit out of ignorance. But his numbers don't strike me as a guy that carried his teams. Even for the time.

I think one of the guys that Bradshaw beat in the Super Bowl, Fran Tarkenton, had far better numbers. Although I'm sure Fran would trade all of his stats for one of Terry's titles.

Point is, I think Chuck Noll is underrated as a coach that assembled a great defense and great weapons around him.

Noll deserves a ton of credit as the coach. He may have been most responsible for putting the team together but not sure.......did help there was no cap nor FA and once he had a guy he did not risk losing him.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Noll deserves a ton of credit as the coach. He may have been most responsible for putting the team together but not sure.......did help there was no cap nor FA and once he had a guy he did not risk losing him.

Yep, the precap days and the post cap days were very different in terms of keeping a team together.

 

[mrschaney]

You can say that Brady made Bill, but it was Bill who put Brady on the field in the first place.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

Harbaugh in Baltimore.

Trent Dilfer.

Go back farther and you can find more....

Ya but that's not normal. The Trent Dilfer defense was fucking amazing.