Is Baker Mayfield a Bust?

[Wamu]

Yea but you said there’s no evidence, so why would he be scumbag if he didn’t actually do anything based on lack of evidence?

Where did I say there's no evidence? Pretty sure all I said was two grand juries declined to indict him.

Why is he a scumbag, you think it's normal for someone to have 20+ women make accusations of sexual misconduct?

 

[shopson67]

Where did I say there's no evidence? Pretty sure all I said was two grand juries declined to indict him.

Why is he a scumbag, you think it's normal for someone to have 20+ women make accusations of sexual misconduct?

Without evidence, he's an entitled douche. With evidence, elevate that to scumbag or beyond.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Without evidence, he's an entitled douche. With evidence, elevate that to scumbag or beyond.

Well there is testimony from numerous individuals that he exposed himself and rub his junk up against them. He was careful to request no camera and no witnesses while showing up for his "massage sessions", so it's his word ( rich and famous) against their word ( poor nobodies who can be exploited). Hard to convict for a crime perhaps, but I'm all for him being penalized severely as a pervert at best and and a sexual predator or rapist at worse , in what ever way society has at their disposal.

 

[shopson67]

Well there is testimony from numerous individuals that he exposed himself and rub his junk up against them. He was careful to request no camera and no witnesses while showing up for his "massage sessions", so it's his word ( rich and famous) against their word ( poor nobodies who can be exploited). Hard to convict for a crime perhaps, but I'm all for him being penalized severely as a pervert at best and and a sexual predator or rapist at worse , in what ever way society has at their disposal.

Exposure and the like is hardly sexual predator territory (or at least what is typically perceived as such). It's definitely pervert territory, but if any of these were repeated per accuser, why was there a second session? At some point, accepting payment for tolerating that behavior comes closer to escort/prostitute status. Pitiful behavior on Watson's part if true, but a restraining order ends it. Seeking excessive damages for repeated sessions is predatory to some degree.

 

[dtgold88]

The Brown colluded with Watson to aid him in avoiding a financial hit and I don't give a shit if you admit it or not. The clause in Watson contract is all I need to prove it. Stick your questions where the sun doesn't shine because they are nothing but deflection, some thing you excel in.

Your own comments are pretty much you arguing with yourself.

why are you so scared to answer the questions you've been asked? Maybe you could use a lifeline and get help?

 

[dtgold88]

Well there is testimony from numerous individuals that he exposed himself and rub his junk up against them. He was careful to request no camera and no witnesses while showing up for his "massage sessions", so it's his word ( rich and famous) against their word ( poor nobodies who can be exploited). Hard to convict for a crime perhaps, but I'm all for him being penalized severely as a pervert at best and and a sexual predator or rapist at worse , in what ever way society has at their disposal.

would sessions like these normally be filmed if someone did not ask that they not be?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

It's definitely pervert territory,

I'm OK calling it that and since he's going to be the face of the organization maybe a petition to change the name from Cleveland Browns to Cleveland Perverts should be started. Like Lions and Bears it's something that brings to mind something scary and dangerous.

 

[fastforward]

 

[dtgold88]

GoldEdge Football - Report: (pick at least a handful of teams) would sign baker if he were released.

"They'd rather get him for nothing than give up assets for him."

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Yes, I did (maybe). As I did for you by correcting your mistake, feel free to point out what I did wrong.

To be fair, I was just asking for you. If you truly meant you could care less that's fine.

No, you were trying to be a smart ass and now look like even more of a clown.

Did you go back and read your post again? If you did there is nothing I need to point out to such a scholar. You can easily find multiple mistakes.

Got to love this forum.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

You were the one who tried to downplay what Baker did as a rookie by implying he had a bunch of early picks to help him out. You failed...got called out on your failure....wont own your failure. Then moved the goal posts to mask your failure

Nothing new to see with you.

Not sure how or why you can't accept the fact that Mayfield had oodles of talent around him on both sides of the ball.

Some people can't be helped.

Oh and could you correct your grammar and spelling deficiencies before posting again.

We expect more out of our Hoop grammar Nazis.

Got to love this forum.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Hey, sorry it took longer than you expected to reply. Not even sure what you think needs spinning here. Oh, no...he was asked a question about Baker (and Watson).

does this mean it's time for you to spin, dance, deflect, move goal posts, etc as seems to be the case whenever you talk about these players?

Slow down Skippy. That lack of reading comprehension is kicking your ass.

Many posters have said it will become a distraction. Niether Garret nor Mayfield are in camp and it has started. In your mind having him on the team won't be a distraction. You are the weakest link.

Nor did Garret have his back as you have claimed his teammates do. Oh wait but not everything needs to be in social media.

Am I right?

 

[dtgold88]

No, you were trying to be a smart ass and now look like even more of a clown.

Did you go back and read your post again? If you did there is nothing I need to point out to such a scholar. You can easily find multiple mistakes.

Got to love this forum.

If you can easily point out multiple mistakes please feel free...as I did for you (unless, of course, you really could care less)

 

[dtgold88]

Not sure how or why you can't accept the fact that Mayfield had oodles of talent around him on both sides of the ball.

Some people can't be helped.

Oh and could you correct your grammar and spelling deficiencies before posting again.

We expect more out of our Hoop grammar Nazis.

Got to love this forum.

You claim he had "oodles of talent" on a 1-31 team AND you also create a post showing how terrible the Browns have been at drafting (and in most of those seasons they were).

you - "Baker has oddles of talent....Baker has a number of first rounders"
you - then you say but the Browns are terrible at drafting and here's a long list for proof

Yes, ya gotta love this forum.

 

[dtgold88]

Slow down Skippy. That lack of reading comprehension is kicking your ass.

Many posters have said it will become a distraction. Niether Garret nor Mayfield are in camp and it has started. In your mind having him on the team won't be a distraction. You are the weakest link.

Nor did Garret have his back as you have claimed his teammates do. Oh wait but not everything needs to be in social media.

Am I right?

what would you like Garrett to say to have his back? "Baker was great and we never should have replaced him with my new teammate?" he made some positive comments about baker and implied if healthy he'll succeed.

Once again...oh, no. He was asked a question about a player still on the roster. The horror.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

what would you like Garrett to say to have his back? "Baker was great and we never should have replaced him with my new teammate?" he made some positive comments about baker and implied if healthy he'll succeed.

Once again...oh, no. He was asked a question about a player still on the roster. The horror.

Once again you divert and deflect. You were the one telling us how his teammates had his back. As if he wasn't/won't be a distraction.

Got to love this forum when you're posting in it.

 

[dtgold88]

Once again you divert and deflect. You were the one telling us how his teammates had his back. As if he wasn't/won't be a distraction.

Got to love this forum when you're posting in it.

He did have his back by saying when healthy he'll succeed.

Try and stay focused on what was really said though.....some tried to imply his teammates don't like him or want him around because they did not post about him on Twitter, IG, etc. supporting him. I showed proof a few players do still talk to him and one even tried to educate these fans that players do, in fact, talk privately. If you need to make up what really happened that says something about you and your argument.

To no avail, it seems, to the irrational (like you) with an agenda. Not surprising. I do credit you, at least, for not moving the goal posts to add to your irrational this time. Baby steps.

Oh, would add I never said him being around would not be a distraction....but, yes, not a huge deal in May. In addition, pointed out iIF he is a better option at QB than Brissett and Watson is hurt the players would like rather have a better chance to win even if it meant answering a few questions.

Write that down where you can find it when needed.

 

[Wamu]

 

[shopson67]

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Baker at home waiting for a trade/release...

 

[dtgold88]

Just cut the man already and put him out of his misery...

I mean, is this really a surprise they mutually agreed not to have him there? No suspension yet for Watson, likely Baker still not cleared for much participation. Why the need for him to be there in early June?

Now if Watson faces a long suspension and Baker is told to stay home for training camp...............?