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If Manziel lost to LSU and Florida the last two weeks of the season.....

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Would he be the heisman frontrunner? Timing...it's all about timing of the losses.

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Man, you really are butthurt over A&M and the SEC aren't you? I think a lot of the SEC hate is just bored trolling, but you just can't seem to get us out of your mind can you?
 

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SEC !

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S E C ! ! !
 

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The OP has a VALID point.

Hell, up until Tebow won it, you pretty much had no shot at winning a Heisman with 2 losses and being an underclassman, no matter how much you may have deserved it.

Times are a'changing.....and those losses happening early in the year have definitely helped Manziel win this Heisman. If Klein losses early and not late, he could actually still be the front runner.
 

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The OP has a VALID point.

Hell, up until Tebow won it, you pretty much had no shot at winning a Heisman with 2 losses and being an underclassman, no matter how much you may have deserved it.

Times are a'changing.....and those losses happening early in the year have definitely helped Manziel win this Heisman. If Klein losses early and not late, he could actually still be the front runner.

Just like natty hopes
 

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What's crazy is how much money & time are put into a Heisman. How much has aTm sunk into it???
 

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Man, you really are butthurt over A&M and the SEC aren't you? I think a lot of the SEC hate is just bored trolling, but you just can't seem to get us out of your mind can you?

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Butthurt...what? It was a question. It's well known that if you are going to lose it is better to do it at the begining/mid season than the end.

Colin Klein was the Heisman favorite and on the way to the National Championship game, but then lost to Baylor. Think about it, he was the clear Heisman front runner but then loses to Baylor the second to last week of the season.
 

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I doubt he'd be the front-runner. Like has been said, it's way better to lose early than late. Look at RG3, he lost 3 games last season and I think he looked pretty bad in a couple of those losses but they were in the middle of the season. Everyone seemed to forget the bad games since he finished the season strong.
 

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I doubt he'd be the front-runner. Like has been said, it's way better to lose early than late. Look at RG3, he lost 3 games last season and I think he looked pretty bad in a couple of those losses but they were in the middle of the season. Everyone seemed to forget the bad games since he finished the season strong.

Except that RG3 had the highest QB Rating in history at the time of the Heisman vote. Johnny Manziel has the 16th highest QB Rating THIS YEAR.

RG3 deserved the Heisman. Manziel has a cool nickname.
 

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I doubt he'd be the front-runner. Like has been said, it's way better to lose early than late. Look at RG3, he lost 3 games last season and I think he looked pretty bad in a couple of those losses but they were in the middle of the season. Everyone seemed to forget the bad games since he finished the season strong.

uhhh.....what? RG3 didn't have a SINGLE bad game last year, not one. His TEAM may have played poorly but he didn't.
 

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uhhh.....what? RG3 didn't have a SINGLE bad game last year, not one. His TEAM may have played poorly but he didn't.

Hence "I think", obviously I didn't pay very much attention to Baylor last season.
 

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Except that RG3 had the highest QB Rating in history at the time of the Heisman vote. Johnny Manziel has the 16th highest QB Rating THIS YEAR.

RG3 deserved the Heisman. Manziel has a cool nickname.

Manziel should get before Teo. Although I'm really not blown away by any of the contenders this season.
 

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Hence "I think", obviously I didn't pay very much attention to Baylor last season.

RG3 was putting up 400 yards and close to 70% in nearly every game. He was a BEAST last year that happened to play on a crappy team overall. That kid threw 17 INTs for his entire collegiate CAREER. Imagine if he had gone to a better team.....
 

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Manziel should get before Teo. Although I'm really not blown away by any of the contenders this season.

They all suck, agreed.

My personal ballot would be

1. Marqise Lee
2. Manti Teo
3. Jarvis Jones

Manziel would be #4. Montee would be #5. Terrance Williams would be #6. Geno Smith and Tajh Boyd would be next.

Collin Klein being a finalist is one of the biggest jokes in Heisman history.
 

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RG3 was putting up 400 yards and close to 70% in nearly every game. He was a BEAST last year that happened to play on a crappy team overall. That kid threw 17 INTs for his entire collegiate CAREER. Imagine if he had gone to a better team.....

It would have been ridiculous. I just looked up his stats in those loses and he was indeed money. Not sure where I got what I was thinking.
 

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LMAO! Jason White, former OU QB, voted Klein, Te'o, and LANDRY JONES on his Heisman ballot.

Just for that last vote he should be banned from EVER voting for the Heisman again!
 

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They all suck, agreed.

My personal ballot would be

1. Marqise Lee
2. Manti Teo
3. Jarvis Jones

Manziel would be #4. Montee would be #5. Terrance Williams would be #6. Geno Smith and Tajh Boyd would be next.

Collin Klein being a finalist is one of the biggest jokes in Heisman history.

It's a damn shame Lee isn't even a finalist. I hate USC but that kids a beast.
 

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LMAO! Jason White, former OU QB, voted Klein, Te'o, and LANDRY JONES on his Heisman ballot.

Just for that last vote he should be banned from EVER voting for the Heisman again!

:lol:
 
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