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Destroydacre

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Almost sounds like the refs had already decided that the goal would not be allowed and when he was overturned he had to quickly come up with another excuse to disallow it. As others have said this really doesn't make any sense, so it's par for the course for an NHL official. Sorry your team was on the short end of the stick Dash.
 

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i disagree.. i actually kinda like the incidental contact call.. IMO ovi did everything in his power to avoid bryz in that situation, but couldn't fully avoid it because (i forget who the flyer's dman was) was in his way.. so he bumped bryz, after doing everything in his power not to, leaving a wide open net for backstrom to put it home

ovi doesn't deserve a penalty because the flyers d-man prevented him from avoiding bryz.. and the caps dont deserve a goal because ovi pushed bryz out of the way.. no goal, no penalty, seems good to me

they mess this up constantly though.. at least 75% of the goals that are disallowed due to goaltender interference (resulting in a penalty) are because a player on the 'scoring' team gets checked into the goalie.. its so bad its become a legit from of 'defense'.. it drives me insane.. during the sharks/devils game on friday this occured, most recent one i can think of

While I somewhat agree that it wasn't OVs fault, make the rule black and white. Less gray area leaves the call less likely to be missed, JMO though
 

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Fuck Jim Joyce and his foray into NHL officiating...

WW you're going to hate me for saying this. Jim Joyce made a terrible call no doubt about that but, he manned up and admitted it that's a lot more than I can say for the NHL ref's and the league they never admit it.

The NFL issues statements on Tuesday to all of the teams after the game tapes have been reviewed and will also say if an official made a bad call. I know it's little consolation to Tigers fans and it was very unfortunate but to me admitting the mistake at least show integrity and makes it a bit easier to accept.

The NHL has a hard time doing this.

Nah I don't hate you for it. I don't even hate Jim Joyce. There are few things in life worth hating.

That being said... :evil:

It is hard for me to give credit to Joyce for manning up and admitting he was wrong when it was obvious from every single picture taken of the play that the runner was out. What was he going to do, deny it? He was upset he blew the call...that part was legit.

What really bugged me about the whole thing was the nagging suspicion that Joyce had predetermined the runner was going to be safe if the play was somewhat close...thus preserving the "integrity" of the game ("I, Jim Joyce, know a perfect game is on the line, but by golly, I'm not going to call him safe just to call him safe."). He clouded his own view of the play as it unfolded.

Anyway, that's my take on the whole thing.

FUCK DALLAS!
 

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But did they go to the War Room for a review? In the case Dash is saying they did so why bother if you're going to wave it off anyway. Maybe the war room contacts the ref to look at it anyway? I don't know.

oh no, that call was made on the ice, i wasn't really addressing the topic at hand, just what elo was talking about haha
 

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The only thing I can think of, is that the war room initiated the call, and then the ref said to them via headset "Doesn't matter if it crossed the line or not, it wouldn't count anyway because of goaltender interference." The conversation with the ref and the war room would make it appear as though the play was under review, when in reality it wasn't.

Could that be it? Did the PA system ever officially announce that the play was under review?
 

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The only thing I can think of, is that the war room initiated the call, and then the ref said to them via headset "Doesn't matter if it crossed the line or not, it wouldn't count anyway because of goaltender interference." The conversation with the ref and the war room would make it appear as though the play was under review, when in reality it wasn't.

Could that be it? Did the PA system ever officially announce that the play was under review?

that makes sense.. then i guess the question would be did the ref state that he was disallowing the goal initially because he deemed the puck never crossed the line? thats what was stated in the OP, but was that an assumption or did he announce that? cause as far as i know they dont make a specific gesture for a reason..
 
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