I need an explanation

[dash]

In yesterday afternoon's Preds - Flames game, an apparent Flames goal was waived off by the official as he deemed that the puck never fully crossed the goal line. They went to the war room in Toronto and the video clearly showed that the puck did indeed completely cross the goal line. This was communicated to the ref who then apparently said that he was waiving off the goal due to goaltender interference committed by Tim Jackman.

However, Tim Jackman never got a penalty for goaltender interference on the play. If the ref was calling goaltender interference to waive off a good goal, why didn't Jackman receive a penalty?

 

[puckhead]

you are allowed to disallow a goal due to goaltender interference, without calling a penalty.
not sure if you are allowed to revise history once you get the news from the war room though

 

[dash]

not sure if you are allowed to revise history once you get the news from the war room though

That's my point, if the ref was sure that it was goaltender interference, then why even go to the war room?!? Just waive off the goal and drop the puck. It's almost like the war room told him that we have the puck crossing the line, but there was contact on the goalie.

 

[ritari330]

I saw that yesterday, pretty bogus if you ask me.

Kinda OT but how does Scott Hannan look, Dash?

 

[beantownmaniac]

In yesterday afternoon's Preds - Flames game, an apparent Flames goal was waived off by the official as he deemed that the puck never fully crossed the goal line. They went to the war room in Toronto and the video clearly showed that the puck did indeed completely cross the goal line. This was communicated to the ref who then apparently said that he was waiving off the goal due to goaltender interference committed by Tim Jackman.

However, Tim Jackman never got a penalty for goaltender interference on the play. If the ref was calling goaltender interference to waive off a good goal, why didn't Jackman receive a penalty?

THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!! BULLSHIT I SAY!!!!!

 

[dash]

I saw that yesterday, pretty bogus if you ask me.

Kinda OT but how does Scott Hannan look, Dash?

He's been pretty good so far...It's been a good pickup for the Flames and I hope he continues his strong play to date.

 

[BOSSMANPC]

That makes no sense at all, at least we can't blame the "War Room" this time their job is to determine if the puck went in the net or not. Sounds like the ref just plain blew the call.

 

[beantownmaniac]

That makes no sense at all, at least we can't blame the "War Room" this time their job is to determine if the puck went in the net or not. Sounds like the ref just plain blew the call.

Maybe Calgary would be willing to trade Iggy to the Bruins for Campbell so they could get those calls to go their way. We ALL know that's the only reason the B's won the cup last year.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Can somebody explain how the hell Nashville continues to win game with their inept offense? I know Rinne is good, but this is ridiculous.

 

[esls79]

Mick may no longer be in the league, but his legacy lives on...

 

[banditshcky11]

That happened in the Flyers Caps game the other night. Ovie skated into Bryz and knocked him enough out of the way for Backstrom to throw the loose puck in the empty net. The refs ruled it a no goal calling it "incidental contact" and Ovie was not penalized.

I was under the impression that if a player skates into the goal under high own power while not being impeded in anyway it was goaltender interference. Where as incidental contact was more along the lines of 2 players jockeying for position and the goalie is bumped into or the goalie comes out of his net to make a play in an unexpected area and is bumped due partially to his own action. I also was unaware that a goal can be called off for incidental contact at all.

There should be a Shanaban video to explain these...

 

[puckhead]

Can somebody explain how the hell Nashville continues to win game with their inept offense? I know Rinne is good, but this is ridiculous.

don't look at us.. we stomped 'em.
(in the only game so far where we showed up for 60 min).

 

[BOSSMANPC]

Mick may no longer be in the league, but his legacy lives on...

Mr animation Mick? Yep, I don't miss him.

 

[ritari330]

That happened in the Flyers Caps game the other night. Ovie skated into Bryz and knocked him enough out of the way for Backstrom to throw the loose puck in the empty net. The refs ruled it a no goal calling it "incidental contact" and Ovie was not penalized.

I was under the impression that if a player skates into the goal under high own power while not being impeded in anyway it was goaltender interference. Where as incidental contact was more along the lines of 2 players jockeying for position and the goalie is bumped into or the goalie comes out of his net to make a play in an unexpected area and is bumped due partially to his own action. I also was unaware that a goal can be called off for incidental contact at all.

There should be a Shanaban video to explain these...

I hate the incidental contact call. It's either a goal or its a penalty, not neither. I thought OVs should've been a penalty, but the majority of the time I disagree with goal/no goal calls when it comes to goalie interferance..

 

[awaz]

I hate the incidental contact call. It's either a goal or its a penalty, not neither. I thought OVs should've been a penalty, but the majority of the time I disagree with goal/no goal calls when it comes to goalie interferance..

i disagree.. i actually kinda like the incidental contact call.. IMO ovi did everything in his power to avoid bryz in that situation, but couldn't fully avoid it because (i forget who the flyer's dman was) was in his way.. so he bumped bryz, after doing everything in his power not to, leaving a wide open net for backstrom to put it home

ovi doesn't deserve a penalty because the flyers d-man prevented him from avoiding bryz.. and the caps dont deserve a goal because ovi pushed bryz out of the way.. no goal, no penalty, seems good to me

they mess this up constantly though.. at least 75% of the goals that are disallowed due to goaltender interference (resulting in a penalty) are because a player on the 'scoring' team gets checked into the goalie.. its so bad its become a legit from of 'defense'.. it drives me insane.. during the sharks/devils game on friday this occured, most recent one i can think of

 

[Winged_Wheel88]

Fuck Jim Joyce and his foray into NHL officiating...

 

[BOSSMANPC]

i disagree.. i actually kinda like the incidental contact call.. IMO ovi did everything in his power to avoid bryz in that situation, but couldn't fully avoid it because (i forget who the flyer's dman was) was in his way.. so he bumped bryz, after doing everything in his power not to, leaving a wide open net for backstrom to put it home

ovi doesn't deserve a penalty because the flyers d-man prevented him from avoiding bryz.. and the caps dont deserve a goal because ovi pushed bryz out of the way.. no goal, no penalty, seems good to me

they mess this up constantly though.. at least 75% of the goals that are disallowed due to goaltender interference (resulting in a penalty) are because a player on the 'scoring' team gets checked into the goalie.. its so bad its become a legit from of 'defense'.. it drives me insane.. during the sharks/devils game on friday this occured, most recent one i can think of

But did they go to the War Room for a review? In the case Dash is saying they did so why bother if you're going to wave it off anyway. Maybe the war room contacts the ref to look at it anyway? I don't know.

 

[BOSSMANPC]

Fuck Jim Joyce and his foray into NHL officiating...

WW you're going to hate me for saying this. Jim Joyce made a terrible call no doubt about that but, he manned up and admitted it that's a lot more than I can say for the NHL ref's and the league they never admit it.

The NFL issues statements on Tuesday to all of the teams after the game tapes have been reviewed and will also say if an official made a bad call. I know it's little consolation to Tigers fans and it was very unfortunate but to me admitting the mistake at least show integrity and makes it a bit easier to accept.

The NHL has a hard time doing this.

 

[puckhead]

by the way Dash, you should really send this query into "C'mon Ref"

 

[dash]

by the way Dash, you should really send this query into "C'mon Ref"

E-mail has been sent, puck. We'll have to wait and see if it gets addressed.