I can't stand Zito

[calsnowskier]

Before alarms sound, pretty sure this guy is from the MLB board.

He passed the main test...

 

[Heathbar012]

He's very unNolanlike...

I was gonna say that he sounded like a tzill alt in the making. Welcome, Let's Go! Already repped you for the knowledge. I owe you welcome rep!

 

[ColinCoby]

I was gonna say that he sounded like a tzill alt in the making. Welcome, Let's Go! Already repped you for the knowledge. I owe you welcome rep!

Way to rip the guy before his seat is even warm...

 

[filosofy29]

Way to rip the guy before his seat is even warm...

lol, rep. Sorry tz, but that was good.

 

[tzill]

lol, rep. Sorry tz, but that was good.

All your alt are belong to me.

 

[coffeeman]

Grant Bisbee April 1 2008:


Quote:
Today's post was in the can long before Barry Zito made his first start. It would have helped my case if Zito pitched well, but I'm sticking with the theme:

I'm glad the Giants signed Barry Zito. I love that he's on the team, and I love that he's a part of this team's future. Let me count the ways:

1. He'll get better. He just needs to learn to pitch with an 85-mph fastball. The curve and change are there, so he just needs to spot his fastball better. Zito's approaching wily veteran status; he'll receive his spot-his-fastball-better tonic after the post-ceremony party.

2. He'll stay healthy. When a player has good health in his youth, it usually means he'll continue with similar luck through his thirties. Even if Zito is a league-average pitcher, he'll have value for the next five years. But I think he'll be better, as....

3. He's a former Cy Young winner. That's a pretty exclusive club, and they don't just hand those things out. The only difference between that Zito and the current Zito is about four miles per hour. That's it. How much difference can that make? He'll learn to overcome his velocity and control problems.

I've been wanting to come out against the Zito-grumblers for a long time. He had a down year last season, but so what? He'll be back, and y'all will look pretty silly when Zito is a 17-game winner in 2012. The salary won't be a concern, as the Giants will develop enough good position players to keep payroll down.
I'm not worried at all.

Grant Bisbee..... the guy is money.

 

[Hangman]

He sure looked great today. Just finished watching the game after work and he had his best game as a Giant's pitcher. I sure hope this is not an anomaly.

 

[TKellion]

I know, just wanted to throw it out there

Ninebuck doesn't like him, so that makes him cool in my book!

Ninebuck and half the other posters from MLB board are asshats.You leave a comment and they flame you.When you reply in kind they have you banned.Havent been back in ages.No knowledge there only idiots.

 

[filosofy29]

Ninebuck and half the other posters from MLB board are asshats.You leave a comment and they flame you.When you reply in kind they have you banned.Havent been back in ages.No knowledge there only idiots.

I've never ventured over to Runboard or MLB for long. The few posts I have read of his ($9Buck) have been pretty tame, but a lot of the folks I respect on here aren't fans of him.....so that's goog enough for me.

I don't remember him at all, was he one of Teh Mules?

 

[Mays-Fan]

He sure looked great today. Just finished watching the game after work and he had his best game as a Giant's pitcher. I sure hope this is not an anomaly.

Does anyone have any info as to his velocity last night? Maybe (hopefully) he nailed down that mechanical adjustment he's been looking for, and picked up a few MPH on the fastball.

Also, is there a "Colorado factor" on the radar gun? (ie, thinner air, less friction, faster fastballs)

 

[msgkings322]

Does anyone have any info as to his velocity last night? Maybe (hopefully) he nailed down that mechanical adjustment he's been looking for, and picked up a few MPH on the fastball.

Also, is there a "Colorado factor" on the radar gun? (ie, thinner air, less friction, faster fastballs)

I don't think he showed any particular velocity jump, I think he just had good command of his curve and his fastball, for the whole game for a change.

 

[filosofy29]

I don't think he showed any particular velocity jump, I think he just had good command of his curve and his fastball, for the whole game for a change.

I believe it was this^ Mays. Plus, he actually (sounded like, I didn't see the game) attacked the zone. When Barry does have command, but nibbles off the plate, he gets shelled when he brings his 85mph heater in on a 2-0 count.

 

[Stokes1931]

I've never ventured over to Runboard or MLB for long. The few posts I have read of his ($9Buck) have been pretty tame, but a lot of the folks I respect on here aren't fans of him.....so that's goog enough for me.

I don't remember him at all, was he one of Teh Mules?

I was on the Mouse board in the glory days of the early 2000's, and I don't believe he was one of Teh Mules. Unless he had one of tzill's alts.

 

[Mays-Fan]

I believe it was this^ Mays. Plus, he actually (sounded like, I didn't see the game) attacked the zone. When Barry does have command, but nibbles off the plate, he gets shelled when he brings his 85mph heater in on a 2-0 count.

I looked it up on mlb.com, and it looks like 85 was the average number for the "heater". So, yes, I don't think that is any appreciable change in velocity:

MLB.com Gameday | MLB.com: Gameday

If you click on the boxscore, scroll down to Pitching, click on Zito, a window pops up which includes "Velocity" as a choice.

PS That awas a sweet piece of hitting by BC to get that three-run double. Pitch on the outside corner, from a lefty, and he just made solid contact and went the other way down the the third base line. Very nice.

 

[Stokes1931]

I believe it was this^ Mays. Plus, he actually (sounded like, I didn't see the game) attacked the zone. When Barry does have command, but nibbles off the plate, he gets shelled when he brings his 85mph heater in on a 2-0 count.

In the first inning, he started CarGo off with a 84 mph "heater" right down the middle. CarGo looked so surprised at that meatball that he didn't even swing.

 

[filosofy29]

I was on the Mouse board in the glory days of the early 2000's, and I don't believe he was one of Teh Mules. Unless he had one of tzill's alts.

I didn't think so. I was a lurker over there since 2001 and the name didn't ring a bell. Oh well, to each their own right?

 

[Stokes1931]

I didn't think so. I was a lurker over there since 2001 and the name didn't ring a bell. Oh well, to each their own right?

There were some real characters back in the day. DieGnatsDie. Tito was a late comer. PortugueseWaterDog. But Teh Mules ruled with an iron fist, and made life pretty miserable for anyone who did not toe the party line. I think ESPN decided to go with Mods precisely because of the Giants' board. No other board had the camaraderie nor the wit, nor the sharp tongues, than that board. BruteSentiment tried to play the mod, but got crucified for it. Good baseball guy, that. Then the auto-mods and the descent into the abyss that it is today. Middle schoolers on detention with time to kill. Except for the stalwarts like LHG and Chef and a few others. Not sure why they stay, they are clearly the tallest players in the midget league.

 

[CameronFrye]

There were some real characters back in the day. DieGnatsDie. Tito was a late comer. PortugueseWaterDog. But Teh Mules ruled with an iron fist, and made life pretty miserable for anyone who did not toe the party line. I think ESPN decided to go with Mods precisely because of the Giants' board. No other board had the camaraderie nor the wit, nor the sharp tongues, than that board. BruteSentiment tried to play the mod, but got crucified for it. Good baseball guy, that. Then the auto-mods and the descent into the abyss that it is today. Middle schoolers on detention with time to kill. Except for the stalwarts like LHG and Chef and a few others. Not sure why they stay, they are clearly the tallest players in the midget league.

Can't forget jdb. That old fuck was as crazy as they came. His only real friend on the ESPN boards was FSS, who defended that old coot til the end. Gotta admire FSS's loyalty, but it was misplaced.

When I left the ESPN boards, I went to runboard, but I couldn't abide that place long because it was run by idiots. I tried to make it work on the Mule and HF forum, but too many morons spoiled it. BTW, that is where most of us came into contact with 9$ for the first time. I never had problems with the guy, but then again, I wasn't really regular enough to become a target.

This place is paradise. Let's hope it never gets overrun by the Walking Dead from ESPN and runboard.

 

[mistgl]

Can't forget jdb. That old fuck was as crazy as they came. His only real friend on the ESPN boards was FSS, who defended that old coot til the end. Gotta admire FSS's loyalty, but it was misplaced.

When I left the ESPN boards, I went to runboard, but I couldn't abide that place long because it was run by idiots. I tried to make it work on the Mule and HF forum, but too many morons spoiled it. BTW, that is where most of us came into contact with 9$ for the first time. I never had problems with the guy, but then again, I wasn't really regular enough to become a target.

This place is paradise. Let's hope it never gets overrun by the Walking Dead from ESPN and runboard.

Ninebuck is a fucking asshole!

That dude has the biggest case of higher than thee internet syndrome that I have ever seen!

 

[gp956]

Zito's velocity from pitchfx:

two-seamer
avg: 83.99 mph
top: 85.2

Here's his Velocity chart from fangraphs: