howard is starting to cost the phils

[_phiLLies_]

his already mediocre defense is hitting a new level. he's basically making at least one poor play per game over there.

 

[Caligula]

That play killed this game.

 

[TheSnowdog]

He's rusty

 

[seattlefan75]

Man this man was a top 5 player in baseball for a few good seasons i wonder why the downfall. I know you NL guys will kill me for saying this but im pro DH and this would be a perfect scenario to have the DH position

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Man this man was a top 5 player in baseball for a few good seasons i wonder why the downfall. I know you NL guys will kill me for saying this but im pro DH and this would be a perfect scenario to have the DH position

I don't have a problem with having a DH. The Phillies have guys like Darin Ruff and the emerging Cameron Rupp that would help us produce runs.

 

[Cedrique]

I can't even consider the hypothetical DH question without imagining 2006 with Howard and Thome in the middle of the lineup, with Utley, Rollins and Burrell in their prime

 

[Cedrique]

For the record if I could go back and add the DH to the NL in 2006 I still wouldn't do it even with the prospect of seeing Howard and Thome on the team together. You start fucking around with events that happened and it changes everything. They might not have won the world series in 2008.

One potential good side effect though-if they have Thome and Howard together, they are probably good enough in 2006 that they don't make the trade of Bobby Abreu to the Yankees, which also means they don't trade that pitcher with him, and he doesn't fly his plane into an apartment building. So there's that.....still I don't want to fuck up one of 2 World Series titles the Phillies won in the last 100 years.

 

[Omar 382]

For the record if I could go back and add the DH to the NL in 2006 I still wouldn't do it even with the prospect of seeing Howard and Thome on the team together. You start fucking around with events that happened and it changes everything. They might not have won the world series in 2008.

One potential good side effect though-if they have Thome and Howard together, they are probably good enough in 2006 that they don't make the trade of Bobby Abreu to the Yankees, which also means they don't trade that pitcher with him, and he doesn't fly his plane into an apartment building. So there's that.....still I don't want to fuck up one of 2 World Series titles the Phillies won in the last 100 years.

Lidle had it coming when he accepted his trade to New York and didn't ask to be released immediately after he heard the news. No way that man's life is more important than our 2008 championship.

 

[Omar 382]

But back to your orginal point- holy shit I never even thought about that but that would have been crazy. Thome had a 1.014 OPS in '06 with 42 home runs and a 155 OPS+. Too bad the starting pitching sucked that year.

 

[WestCoastPhan]

remember when howard could, at least, hit righthanded pitching? aaah those were the days!

 

[_phiLLies_]

jesus fucking christ, he did it again. slightly low throw to 1st and he just flat out drops it. instead of being a 2-0 lead, it's now 2-1 and bases still loaded. how much more?

 

[Caligula]

Shit throw by rollins and a shit catch by Howard.

 

[Omar 382]

I agree he should have caught the ball, but that error should have been charged to Rollins

 

[_phiLLies_]

was a shitty throw, but no excuse in the world not to catch it. not to mention he couldn't move utley from 2nd with 0 outs the inning before.

 

[_phiLLies_]

game could easily be 3-0 phils. instead it's 2-1. almost a 2-3 defecit.

 

[Caligula]

Problem is, I don't see them sitting Howard. Platoon, maybe. But I don't see them sitting him.

 

[Omar 382]

Did Pettibone fuck the home plate umpire's wife? He is getting squeezed like a motherfucker

 

[Omar 382]

Look at yourself now you Howard basher. Shame on you! He just crushed that ball

 

[_phiLLies_]

at least he can still hit.. sometimes.. pitches down the middle.. when he beats the shift.

2 more years on that contract, then they can buy it out. maybe if he has a nice offensive year, they can trade him to an AL team looking for a DH. someone might be desperate if that 25 million per year gets knocked down to like 8 or 9.

dream scenario though.

 

[Caligula]

at least he can still hit.. sometimes.. pitches down the middle.. when he beats the shift.

2 more years on that contract, then they can buy it out. maybe if he has a nice offensive year, they can trade him to an AL team looking for a DH. someone might be desperate if that 25 million per year gets knocked down to like 8 or 9.

dream scenario though.

Emphasis on "sometimes."