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Series Thread: Home Against the Astros April 20th-22nd

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It does remind me of the mid 90's where we had Johnson (best pitcher in baseball) and 4 others guys hanging on for their MLB lives. The the big move was Andy Benes who was okay, but no stud. He must have been cheap.

Shields for me was the move this off season along with Volquez (sp?). Pitchers that can go 7 regularly save the pen and make them look better than maybe they really are.

Maybe Im off but I think Benes was a deadline deal and we only had him a couple of months. I do remember the other B's ( Bosio, Belcher and Bob(Wells)) LOL. That rotation was definitely held together by duct tape outside of RJ. Another decent arm and they probably get by Cleveland but oh well. The next year it got a little better when they got Moyer and Fassero.

Regarding the offseason I never really considered Shields an option so I didn't go there. I did however think Volquez and McCarthy were options and was hoping for one of the two. Heck even a buy low move like Beachy would have been nice for depth but oh well. I don't think the pitching is as bad as its showing but I think a lot of luck was involved last year as well.

As crazy as it sounds I would take a loss tonight if it means Walker looks good. Almost think that's more important at this point.
 

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The stat guys are really getting out of control. What the heck is ISO?
 

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The stat guys are really getting out of control. What the heck is ISO?
The ability to hit for extra bases.

Like most stats, it becomes more significant with a bigger sample size.

It's not insignificant when it's literally a goose egg, though, even this far into the season. But I'm sure Jack Z agrees with you completely.

Because Logan Morrison.
 

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It's about time to bring up Montero to see what he can do at 1st and at the plate.
 

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It's about time to bring up Montero to see what he can do at 1st and at the plate.

The offense hasn't really been the issue.... If were making a change, let's get another arm in the pen. Pick one of your right handed platoon guys, weeks or ruggs and drop them to get another pen arm. With the starters sucking our pen is gassed already.

Then you ask 1 inning guys like Farquarer to come back for a second inning,,, in which case he gives up two....
 

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The offense hasn't really been the issue.... If were making a change, let's get another arm in the pen. Pick one of your right handed platoon guys, weeks or ruggs and drop them to get another pen arm. With the starters sucking our pen is gassed already.

Then you ask 1 inning guys like Farquarer to come back for a second inning,,, in which case he gives up two....

I agree. As much as I think we need another option for warning track power Morrison, another arm seems to be what this team needs.

No more Morrison/Zunino back to back, they are rally killers. How many times did one, if not both, come up with RISP? Seemed like every time to me.
 

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Like some experts have said in the past, there is more ways to win than just getting better at your weakness. Saying a better hitter isn't needed when pitching is the problem just isn't true. If another hitter added 3 runs last night we win 8-7 (how many chances did Zunino-Morrison combo cost us?). Adding another arm makes sense, but if there isn't one available that would help not not adding a better hitter makes even less sense.

Becoming better is becoming better no matter how you slice it.
 

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Maybe Im off but I think Benes was a deadline deal and we only had him a couple of months. I do remember the other B's ( Bosio, Belcher and Bob(Wells)) LOL. That rotation was definitely held together by duct tape outside of RJ. Another decent arm and they probably get by Cleveland but oh well. The next year it got a little better when they got Moyer and Fassero.

He was. I should have clarified that. Just meant even when pitching was our weakness back then as well all we came up with was a so-so Benes.
 

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I agree. As much as I think we need another option for warning track power Morrison, another arm seems to be what this team needs.

No more Morrison/Zunino back to back, they are rally killers. How many times did one, if not both, come up with RISP? Seemed like every time to me.

I wonder if Chris Young is still available? Not sold on Elias...

I'm very tired of Zunino/Morrison screwing up rally's... B2B makes absolutely no sense...
 

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OH, my... Stop the bleeding please....
 

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WOW... He got through the 1st inning w/out throwing 40 pitches... That is a good sign... Better yet, no runs...
 

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Just got done with 7 hours of parent/teacher conferences.

Need to see an M's win, please.
 

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Awesome... Got one on the board...
 

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Ack being alert and aggressive paid off.
 

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is this a sign that walker has remembered how to pitch again?
 
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