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. Ii don't care how 'much its not my money




UM lets see...the its not my money approach has worked well for us in the past....Hey Vinney Cerrato.....Didnt know you were posting here!!!
 

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UM lets see...the its not my money approach has worked well for us in the past....Hey Vinney Cerrato.....Didnt know you were posting here!!!

Exactly. The team has to be smart about how it spends its money in the salary cap era. Didn't we learn anything with the Haynesworth signing? You cannot put all of your eggs in one (or two) basket(s). What happens if the sexy FA gets hurt or underperforms?

You also have to ensure that you don't spend all of your future money since some big $$ contracts are on the horizon especially RG3 (and perhaps others like Reed & Morris). The goal should be to build a solid organization that can compete every year - not simply a team that has a chance next season.

I think that gke has the right idea - perhaps the names will be different, but the philosophy is correct for the most part IMO.

HTTR
 

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The only "big name" move I would sign would be some one on the O-Line and CB/S, but i agree we do need a very good FA at O-Line to help RG3 stay up right. I mean D-Hall has been playing well, but Aquib Talib or let's say a Jarius Byrd could help our Defense a great deal. WR we can see if we can sign a Danario Alexander (although he's coming off major injury) or a julian edelman. It's sad we're already talking about the off-season and I'm tired of being mediocre every year, but trust me if we fire Shanahan than we will take 7 steps back and will have to wait even longer to build a Super bowl ready team.

Hail to progression fellas
 

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Exactly. The team has to be smart about how it spends its money in the salary cap era. Didn't we learn anything with the Haynesworth signing? You cannot put all of your eggs in one (or two) basket(s). What happens if the sexy FA gets hurt or underperforms?

You also have to ensure that you don't spend all of your future money since some big $$ contracts are on the horizon especially RG3 (and perhaps others like Reed & Morris). The goal should be to build a solid organization that can compete every year - not simply a team that has a chance next season.

I think that gke has the right idea - perhaps the names will be different, but the philosophy is correct for the most part IMO.

HTTR

if you are going to spend "big money " then it should be on guys 28 or younger

now people pine about we need this and we need that on the o/line but balk at the price at getting the best at a certain position

gk is right that it will cost to get a mack or oher , but i wont put a tag on it yet
 

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I'm not against going after Mack and paying him 8 million/season. It might even be a good idea because he's a top 3 center in the NFL. Center is extremely important with a young QB because he can handle all the line calls. He can notice blitzes over center better.

We are having problems with pressure up the middle and Mack makes both Gs better.
 

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I think that if none of the draft picks or undrafted players that the skins drafted or signed are ready to take over next year, then that's just as indicative of the shannys tenure as anything else.

I mean: Lereibius, Gettis,,Compton, mo hurt - NONE are ready?

That would be pathetic.
 

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time to bump this up here is what we are looking at
 

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time to bump this up here is what we are looking at


The bottom line is that we are last in the NFC East yet again. Out of Shanahan's 4 seasons, we have finished last 3 of 4 times. If its a talent issue (which I think alot of our problems are) then for heaven sakes....get some players to fill these holes.

We will have to be wise in how we spend as we have so many holes to fill. I really like what Reid did in that he had plenty of cap space and he spread it out everywhere to fill in the gaps. We can't afford to throw all of our money at 3 players and call it day. We need upwards of 5 to 6 free agents to come in and contribute right away.
 

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I respectfully disagree. We need a couple of playmakers at key positions. Safety and ILB for example. We do need to be prudent and do have multiple holes, but if we fill them all with mediocre players, then we will be in the same boat just rearranging the deck chairs. We have mediocre players now. Having an additional play maker or 2 changes everything. They cause turnovers. They break up passes. The can cover one on one. That takes the pressure off of their mediocre teammates and many times raises their level of play.

One thing we can do today is find a freaking punter. Rocca is done. There has to be someone out there that can directionally kick a football 40 yards. Rocca can't. He has burned us at least once in every game.
 

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I respectfully disagree. We need a couple of playmakers at key positions. Safety and ILB for example. We do need to be prudent and do have multiple holes, but if we fill them all with mediocre players, then we will be in the same boat just rearranging the deck chairs. We have mediocre players now. Having an additional play maker or 2 changes everything. They cause turnovers. They break up passes. The can cover one on one. That takes the pressure off of their mediocre teammates and many times raises their level of play.

One thing we can do today is find a freaking punter. Rocca is done. There has to be someone out there that can directionally kick a football 40 yards. Rocca can't. He has burned us at least once in every game.


We can't take the Cerrato approach and throw all of our money at 3 players. I agree that ILB and Safety would help for sure. You failed to address CB (which might be a bigger need than Safety) and the glaring hole in the OLine. Vinny always went for the homerun and never addressed the "non-playmaker" positions. We need a Center and RG if RG3 is going to stay in the league.

Again, Cerrato never viewed the OLine as important and only went after playmakers. We have spent years trying to clean up his mess. You are also wrong that we have lots of mediocre players. We actually have several sub-standard players. I would take mediocre players versus the sub-standard players we currently have that are killing this team. We can't have Pro-Bowl players at every position. Average players will have to do for several spots on this team. Again, signing some average players would certainly be an upgrade. Center and Right Guard (Monty and Chester) for example are below average players and certainly need to be upgraded.

Lets learn from the past and address as many positions as we can and not waste our cap on 3 players. The Redskins typically always try to finish the basement while there is a hole in the roof. We do need a new punter for sure.
 

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We can't take the Cerrato approach and throw all of our money at 3 players. I agree that ILB and Safety would help for sure. You failed to address CB (which might be a bigger need than Safety) and the glaring hole in the OLine. Vinny always went for the homerun and never addressed the "non-playmaker" positions. We need a Center and RG if RG3 is going to stay in the league.

Again, Cerrato never viewed the OLine as important and only went after playmakers. We have spent years trying to clean up his mess. You are also wrong that we have lots of mediocre players. We actually have several sub-standard players. I would take mediocre players versus the sub-standard players we currently have that are killing this team. We can't have Pro-Bowl players at every position. Average players will have to do for several spots on this team. Again, signing some average players would certainly be an upgrade. Center and Right Guard (Monty and Chester) for example are below average players and certainly need to be upgraded.

Lets learn from the past and address as many positions as we can and not waste our cap on 3 players. The Redskins typically always try to finish the basement while there is a hole in the roof. We do need a new punter for sure.

Cerrato went after the marquee names after their prime. That's not what I'm talking about. We can get solid, veteran players that are below 30. Ideally you look for those coming off of their rookie contracts. They have proven themselves as starters and consistent players. They don't have to be PB players, but they have to have a proven track record and are still young. I'm not talking about every hole, just a few key ones. A Jairus Bryd at Safety. He has 3-6 INTs every year and is a playmaker. A Jonathan Vilma at ILB. Solid, dependable, makes plays. Kinda like a young Fletcher when we picked him up.

What we don't want is someone else's trash. A Madieu Williams, a Tanard Jackson. A Josh Morgan (that's probably a bit harsh, but he didn't produce to his contract). If you just try and fill all holes with a little money, thats what you end up with.
 

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Cerrato went after the marquee names after their prime. That's not what I'm talking about. We can get solid, veteran players that are below 30. Ideally you look for those coming off of their rookie contracts. They have proven themselves as starters and consistent players. They don't have to be PB players, but they have to have a proven track record and are still young. I'm not talking about every hole, just a few key ones. A Jairus Bryd at Safety. He has 3-6 INTs every year and is a playmaker. A Jonathan Vilma at ILB. Solid, dependable, makes plays. Kinda like a young Fletcher when we picked him up.

What we don't want is someone else's trash. A Madieu Williams, a Tanard Jackson. A Josh Morgan (that's probably a bit harsh, but he didn't produce to his contract). If you just try and fill all holes with a little money, thats what you end up with.

i am looking at 28 or younger
 

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Linemen linemen linemen, if we don't address the biggest problem on this team nothing else matters.
 

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Cerrato went after the marquee names after their prime. That's not what I'm talking about. We can get solid, veteran players that are below 30. Ideally you look for those coming off of their rookie contracts. They have proven themselves as starters and consistent players. They don't have to be PB players, but they have to have a proven track record and are still young. I'm not talking about every hole, just a few key ones. A Jairus Bryd at Safety. He has 3-6 INTs every year and is a playmaker. A Jonathan Vilma at ILB. Solid, dependable, makes plays. Kinda like a young Fletcher when we picked him up.

What we don't want is someone else's trash. A Madieu Williams, a Tanard Jackson. A Josh Morgan (that's probably a bit harsh, but he didn't produce to his contract). If you just try and fill all holes with a little money, thats what you end up with.

Vilma will be 32 next season - do you still want him?
 

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Linemen linemen linemen, if we don't address the biggest problem on this team nothing else matters.

the defense is the bigger issue

i have posted numerous things about our o/line and how it "really " performs
 
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