Gus Bradely vs Wade Phillips

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

wilks and thepanthers defense philosphey on defense is get the best front 7 and go cheap on the back 4 shit load of blitzing so i be happy with wilks if gus says no

 

[duke1861]

Again dude WHY?? We dont have the horses, we have sucked as a 3-4 team the past what eight years?? IM just not feeling the man love for Wade, and I think the buddy hire of Bradley would be a bad mistake as well.

I think that is everybodys point Shark. With a ton of cap space and some high picks dedicated to the defense, we would have those horses.

Clearly the defense will be a focus as they hired the entire defensive staff fairly quickly.

 

[skinsdad62]

age is a concern

 

[Sharkinva]

I think that is everybodys point Shark. With a ton of cap space and some high picks dedicated to the defense, we would have those horses.

Clearly the defense will be a focus as they hired the entire defensive staff fairly quickly.

I get that Duke. But right now we are better setup to run a 4-3 over a 3-4. We are going to invest in those horses, but I think we are still better served getting away from the 3-4.


Also as Wade is the only 3-4 DC any one has rumored we might be interested in, I would think signs point towards us going to a 4-3 any way. And Im more than OK with that.

 

[skinsdad62]

well if we are making a change this is the year to do it because we suck

 

[Sharkinva]

wilks and thepanthers defense philosphey on defense is get the best front 7 and go cheap on the back 4 shit load of blitzing so i be happy with wilks if gus says no

Especially since we already HAVE good depth at CB, and hopefully have a solid safety in Cravens.

 

[kbso83432]

No?

 

[Skin'EmAll]

No?

Dude looks like he's about to disenagrate into space. Nice jacket though!

 

[kbso83432]

New Redskins defensive coordinator search update: 3 contenders but other names lurk | CSN Mid-Atlantic
New Redskins defensive coordinator search update: 3 contenders but other names lurk


In case you missed it. Supposedly down to Bradley, Wilks, and Munusky, in that order. Wade linked to Raiders, but still has outside shot.

 

[kbso83432]

I'd be happy with Bradley. Young, 43 defense.

 

[Breed]

I think that is everybodys point Shark. With a ton of cap space and some high picks dedicated to the defense, we would have those horses.

Clearly the defense will be a focus as they hired the entire defensive staff fairly quickly.

I'm gonna aassume the word hired should really be fired and they didn't fire everyone. Greg Manusky, OLB coach was retained.

New Redskins defensive coordinator search update: 3 contenders but other names lurk

• Internally, Greg Manusky looks like the only coaching staff holdover with a chance to become defensive coordinator. He currently serves as the 'Skins outside linebackers coach, one of the few units that performed well on the Redskins beleugered 2016 defense, and his work with third-year pro Trent Murphy opened a lot of eyes in Ashburn. Further, Manusky has experience running defenses, as he was coordinator in Indy, San Diego and San Francisco in various stops earlier in his career.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

I seen a twittt that said skins have not interveiwed nobody yet that would point the signs to manusky

 

[Breed]

I seen a twittt that said skins have not interveiwed nobody yet that would point the signs to manusky

I was unaware till recently that he has something like 13 years as a Def Co under his belt.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Mannys take on Gus Bradley...



Gus Bradley would not be a great hire for the Redskins as defensive coordinator

According to reports, Gus Bradley is apparently atop the Washington Redskins defensive coordinator list following the decision not to retain Joe Barry. While the former Head Coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars appears to be a hot-name among Redskins fans, I personally have my doubts about how good a hire it would be. But before I paint a gloomy picture, lets discuss why Bradley garners much respect.

Serving as coordinator in Seattle, Bradley coordinated perennial top-ten defensive units. The Seahawks ranked ninth in 2011 and fourth in 2012. His success as a coordinator in those seasons helped propel him to the gig with the Jaguars. While that tenure historically went terrible (14-48 in four seasons), the Jaguars defense did rank sixth in the league this season. Whether or not that ranking truly reflects the tier of defense Jacksonville fielded this season is up for argument.

"When you know you've arrived is when a defense starts dictating the outcome of a game," said Gus Bradley late last season. "That's the mark of a really good defense." Obviously, the Jaguars only won three games, so draw your own conclusions.



Anyway, Bradley has ties to key staff members in the Washington Redskins' organization. I mean, he's a top candidate, of course he does. Bradley knows coach Jay Gruden and team president Bruce Allen from his tenure with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2006-2008 where he served as the Linebackers coach. Of course, General Manager Scot McCloughan is also familiar with Bradley from his days with the Seattle Seahawks. So there's clear ties that could make Bradley a viable option for the team.

However, I remain skeptical.

While Bradley did have major success with the Seahawks in 2011 and 2012, let's be honest, that was Pete Carroll's mold. You don't even have to speculate to know that as fact. Bradley's only other "foundation" as a coach pretty much came from Monte Kiffiin with the Buccaneers where he learned the Tampa 2 system. Bradley initially implemented that system with the Seahawks when hired by then head coach Jim Mora Jr. in 2009. After that debacle of a season, the Seahawks hired the glamorous former USC Head Coach Pete Carroll who immediately brought his mold of a defense.

What we now know as those buzz word positions like "LEO" and "OTTO" - that came from Pete Carroll. He has a system he believes in with a specific idea of players that fit the mold. Obviously Bradley was a part, but not the reason of Seattle's rise on defense in 2011 and 2012.

One of the things I continue to hear from people who have followed or covered Gus Bradley is that he's a rah-rah guy who lacks disciplinary skills. That was one of the issues some Redskins players alluded to Joe Barry having the past couple seasons in Washington. The Jaguars were a heavily penalized team throughout Bradley's tenure. They even had two players ejected in a game this past season.

"That's a reflection of me as a head coach," Bradley said after rookie cornerback Jalen Ramsey and defensive tackle Malik Jackson were ejected. "It's a reflection of our discipline. It's a reflection of how our culture is and how we talk and how we handle things."

Meanwhile, Ramsey wasn't sorry to see a change in Jacksonville. "It’s frustrating for all of us, but hopefully it’s complete, complete change. [A] complete flip will serve us good," the top-5 2016 pick said.


"Every week, we ran the same defense," said Ramsey, who finished his rookie season with 55 tackles, 14 pass breakups and two interceptions. "We never changed defenses. We never changed plays. What we were running on first down at the beginning of the season we were running on first down at the end of the season. What we were running on second down, third down, same. Nothing ever changed."

Pete Carroll is known for keeping a loose locker room. He's a rah-rah guy who, at his age (65), oddly relates well with players. Yet, Carroll has mastered how to balance individualism with discipline. Gus Bradley does not share those traits.


What you're getting with Bradley is a rah-rah guy who lacks disciplinary skills and needs a talented defensive roster to have success. That does not sound like a defensive coordinator the Redskins need. What the Redskins need is a guy who can develop talent and make the most out of what he has. They need a guy who can instill a clear direction and discipline. We'll discuss a few guys who could have those qualities in the coming days.

 

[kbso83432]

Reports are they are still chasing him at the moment. We'll see.

Grant Paulsen on Twitter: "Jason La Canfora on #Redskins' DC search: "Gus is their guy. They're going to make that effort." Says Bradley is still their top priority."

 

[Sportster 72]

Mannys take on Gus Bradley...



Gus Bradley would not be a great hire for the Redskins as defensive coordinator

According to reports, Gus Bradley is apparently atop the Washington Redskins defensive coordinator list following the decision not to retain Joe Barry. While the former Head Coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars appears to be a hot-name among Redskins fans, I personally have my doubts about how good a hire it would be. But before I paint a gloomy picture, lets discuss why Bradley garners much respect.

Serving as coordinator in Seattle, Bradley coordinated perennial top-ten defensive units. The Seahawks ranked ninth in 2011 and fourth in 2012. His success as a coordinator in those seasons helped propel him to the gig with the Jaguars. While that tenure historically went terrible (14-48 in four seasons), the Jaguars defense did rank sixth in the league this season. Whether or not that ranking truly reflects the tier of defense Jacksonville fielded this season is up for argument.

"When you know you've arrived is when a defense starts dictating the outcome of a game," said Gus Bradley late last season. "That's the mark of a really good defense." Obviously, the Jaguars only won three games, so draw your own conclusions.



Anyway, Bradley has ties to key staff members in the Washington Redskins' organization. I mean, he's a top candidate, of course he does. Bradley knows coach Jay Gruden and team president Bruce Allen from his tenure with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2006-2008 where he served as the Linebackers coach. Of course, General Manager Scot McCloughan is also familiar with Bradley from his days with the Seattle Seahawks. So there's clear ties that could make Bradley a viable option for the team.

However, I remain skeptical.

While Bradley did have major success with the Seahawks in 2011 and 2012, let's be honest, that was Pete Carroll's mold. You don't even have to speculate to know that as fact. Bradley's only other "foundation" as a coach pretty much came from Monte Kiffiin with the Buccaneers where he learned the Tampa 2 system. Bradley initially implemented that system with the Seahawks when hired by then head coach Jim Mora Jr. in 2009. After that debacle of a season, the Seahawks hired the glamorous former USC Head Coach Pete Carroll who immediately brought his mold of a defense.

What we now know as those buzz word positions like "LEO" and "OTTO" - that came from Pete Carroll. He has a system he believes in with a specific idea of players that fit the mold. Obviously Bradley was a part, but not the reason of Seattle's rise on defense in 2011 and 2012.

One of the things I continue to hear from people who have followed or covered Gus Bradley is that he's a rah-rah guy who lacks disciplinary skills. That was one of the issues some Redskins players alluded to Joe Barry having the past couple seasons in Washington. The Jaguars were a heavily penalized team throughout Bradley's tenure. They even had two players ejected in a game this past season.

"That's a reflection of me as a head coach," Bradley said after rookie cornerback Jalen Ramsey and defensive tackle Malik Jackson were ejected. "It's a reflection of our discipline. It's a reflection of how our culture is and how we talk and how we handle things."

Meanwhile, Ramsey wasn't sorry to see a change in Jacksonville. "It’s frustrating for all of us, but hopefully it’s complete, complete change. [A] complete flip will serve us good," the top-5 2016 pick said.


"Every week, we ran the same defense," said Ramsey, who finished his rookie season with 55 tackles, 14 pass breakups and two interceptions. "We never changed defenses. We never changed plays. What we were running on first down at the beginning of the season we were running on first down at the end of the season. What we were running on second down, third down, same. Nothing ever changed."

Pete Carroll is known for keeping a loose locker room. He's a rah-rah guy who, at his age (65), oddly relates well with players. Yet, Carroll has mastered how to balance individualism with discipline. Gus Bradley does not share those traits.


What you're getting with Bradley is a rah-rah guy who lacks disciplinary skills and needs a talented defensive roster to have success. That does not sound like a defensive coordinator the Redskins need. What the Redskins need is a guy who can develop talent and make the most out of what he has. They need a guy who can instill a clear direction and discipline. We'll discuss a few guys who could have those qualities in the coming days.

I have wondered the same thing. Not that I know a lot about Bradley but seems he had pieces in Jacksonville and that was a horrendous record he had there.

I liked Wade two years ago but he would be a very short term fix at best.

I am in wait and for something good mode.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Seen some peeps wanting Mike Vrabel interviewed. Intriguing possible candidate.

 

[Sportster 72]

I know little about him as a coach Cali but does seem interesting.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Most important to me is hiring a coach who can get the best out of our players, develop the young guys and put them in the best situation to excel within their skill sets.

Just so tired of the cronyism or the old guys club being the swing factor in the NFL hiring process. Seems like a no brainer but too many times it comes down to relationships over results.

 

[redskin4209]

Yep Cali Gus kind of reminds me of JB a little bit (Tampa Bay Background). The safest pick is Wade but I wish Dean Pees and Fangio were available. Fangio and Wade have a hx of building Def's. What's so sad we had an opportunity at Wade and Fangio some yrs ago. Instead we foolishly choose JB. Now I like Manusky, Dennis Thurman and some others. A few wks ago I did some investigation on Gus. I have mixed views about Gus. Jacksonville did not have a good pass rush and neither did it create a lot of TO's in 2016. However the Def had to deal with a bad QB Bortles. If you go back to 2009 (Mora and Gus) before Carroll came to the Seattle, check out Seattle Def stats. Not good. Seattle Def only improved after Carroll came there. He was the one who is influential in building this Def, therefore he made the critical improvements in the Seahawks defense, not Bradley. However if the FO chooses Bradley I will live with it but like I said before Gruden and the FO better get this right this time. If not you will see some other people get fire in the near future just like JB.