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Wow. I'm late to the party and just catching up to the news. Makes me wonder if cash for signing bonuses is a problem because letting Geno go and the Metcalf situation is surprising to say the least. Hope they don't go after Darold because the guy needs a top OL to function well and that don't sound like what the Seahawks have at this time. I've been wrong about everything this offseason so going to just sit back and wait to see what happens. Would of been nice if the Seahawks had moved up last season with a plethora of good QBs to draw from last draft.
 
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If he’s going to be a mentor, great. If this is Pete carrolls plan st QB, I’d be worried.
 

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I think McDonald knows we need to build the trenches first. Using existing resources to help speed that process is fine by me. I don’t really care if they tank this year and just keep building. I was a fucking nasty defense and 5 pit bulls up front that will eat some children if they are in the way.
 

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Imagine that … He did a pretty good job last year for the Steelers, would imagine you guys bring him back
He was decent. Reminded me of russ in seattle. Ppl thought he was better than he really was. Started hot and faded. The typical russ. Like in his”mvp” seasons where 70% of his tds came in the first half of the season
 

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He was decent. Reminded me of russ in seattle. Ppl thought he was better than he really was. Started hot and faded. The typical russ. Like in his”mvp” seasons where 70% of his tds came in the first half of the season
RW was great when he was young and agile, once that faded then not so much, although his long ball remained really good. I'd rather sign RW for a one year bridge then sign Sam Darnold for three years at a high price. It's not even close, because Darnold isn't the answer to who is the QB of the future. Don't feel they find the answer in the draft either . So take the lumps and do what it takes next year to move up for a real prospect at QB and the hell with settling for second rate QBs and build around him that some seem to want to do. Building the trenches is a never ending process that require a lot to go right and usually it doesn't work out that way. The stud is aging (Williams). one young top draft choice didn't produce as hoped (Murphy) one guy is to injury prone (Nwosu) and don't even get me started on the OL. QBs last for a decade, heck even Geno lasted for a decade, so when a good QB class happens pay the toll and take a swing in the meantime continue the never ending process of building the trenches if you hit at QB you can use the most valuable draft capitol on the trenches and if you don't you keep trying to hit at QB. God I'm going to be pissed if JS signs Darnold for a shit load of money.
 

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RW was great when he was young and agile, once that faded then not so much, although his long ball remained really good. I'd rather sign RW for a one year bridge then sign Sam Darnold for three years at a high price. It's not even close, because Darnold isn't the answer to who is the QB of the future. Don't feel they find the answer in the draft either . So take the lumps and do what it takes next year to move up for a real prospect at QB and the hell with settling for second rate QBs and build around him that some seem to want to do. Building the trenches is a never ending process that require a lot to go right and usually it doesn't work out that way. The stud is aging (Williams). one young top draft choice didn't produce as hoped (Murphy) one guy is to injury prone (Nwosu) and don't even get me started on the OL. QBs last for a decade, heck even Geno lasted for a decade, so when a good QB class happens pay the toll and take a swing in the meantime continue the never ending process of building the trenches if you hit at QB you can use the most valuable draft capitol on the trenches and if you don't you keep trying to hit at QB. God I'm going to be pissed if JS signs Darnold for a shit load of money.
Very fair on Russ. Im admittedly a Russ basher and always have been. I agree on basically everything youve said. But let me just ask this. Lets say you sign darnold to 4 years 120 million. Team option after 2 years. You mad? I admit me putting the option in there makes it more intriguing.
 

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Very fair on Russ. Im admittedly a Russ basher and always have been. I agree on basically everything youve said. But let me just ask this. Lets say you sign darnold to 4 years 120 million. Team option after 2 years. You mad? I admit me putting the option in there makes it more intriguing.
At this point, yes. Roll that cap into 2026
 

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Very fair on Russ. Im admittedly a Russ basher and always have been. I agree on basically everything youve said. But let me just ask this. Lets say you sign darnold to 4 years 120 million. Team option after 2 years. You mad? I admit me putting the option in there makes it more intriguing.
I say no, don't do it. Need to find the QB of the future in the draft, not over paying for second rate QBs in free agency.
 

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Well of course I don't know for sure
Of course you don't know but what I do know is Geno isn't the guy that can get us back to the SB. I'd rather take a shot at an unknown young prospect over continually spinning wheels with Geno who has reached his ceiling.
 

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At this point, yes. Roll that cap into 2026

I say no, don't do it. Need to find the QB of the future in the draft, not over paying for second rate QBs in free agency.
I admit darnolds intriguing. Hes still so young. He was really freaking good last year. He had a few bad games. But every qb does. Hes got a pedigree. He is one of the cast aways that I think can be a guy. Just me though.
 

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Of course you don't know but what I do know is Geno isn't the guy that can get us back to the SB. I'd rather take a shot at an unknown young prospect over continually spinning wheels with Geno who has reached his ceiling.
Can't over pay for second rate talent at QB and hope you can over come it by building the team around said second rate QB. Got to go out and find the QB of the future in the draft and use that rookie contract to build around him. That's the cheat code in the NFL.
 

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Can't over pay for second rate talent at QB and hope you can over come it by building the team around said second rate QB. Got to go out and find the QB of the future in the draft and use that rookie contract to build around him. That's the cheat code in the NFL.
Agreed! We could use some good luck on hitting QBoF.
 

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He was decent. Reminded me of russ in seattle. Ppl thought he was better than he really was. Started hot and faded. The typical russ. Like in his”mvp” seasons where 70% of his tds came in the first half of the season
Yeah he did tend to do that, get real hot then fade… His first several seasons will always be his best, he was SO quick, master at extending plays… He definitely lost that step, still has a great deep ball though, but he’s not what he once was …
 

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Wow. I didn't see this coming but if Geno and his agent were asking for 40 mil plus, then it's a no brainer. Glad we got a 3rd. From everything we talked about this year, the middle rounds are the best value anyway. This draft really doesn't have much in the way of elite prospects anyway.
Agree with others, no fucking way on Darnold. Yeah, overachieved last season but the real Darnold showed up when it mattered most. Absolutely atrocious vs the Lions when they had a legit shot at the 1 seed and then even worse vs. the Rams in the WC. And it's not all because of Oline play. Darnold had arguably, one of the top 3-4 play-callers coaching him, by far the best WR in the game and arguably, one of the best #2 WRs and an excellent TE and RB. Darnold, frankly is worse than Geno, imo. Although younger. 30+mil would be a gross overpay for Darnold. He's a 20 mil bridge at his very best, which looks like last season to me. Don't be surprised if he just goes back to the same old Darnold. Last season being his outlier. Similar to Geno in 2021.
Now we truly rebuild, imo. No more patchwork shit and spinning our tires, getting just enough traction to be a marginal play-off team. Hopefully can find a developmental QB in the 2nd or 3rd and build from the trenches and defense out. No more overpaying for WRs like DK and QBs like Geno and Russ. Or just set ourselves up for the QBof in 2026 when there might actually be someone worth taking a chance on. I hate this draft for QBs. WE could probably just start Howell and plan for 2026 with lots of cap space. Or sign a cheap QB (like 10 mil) as a bridge. Wasting 20+ mil on a bridge is dumb, imo.
 

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Of course you don't know but what I do know is Geno isn't the guy that can get us back to the SB. I'd rather take a shot at an unknown young prospect over continually spinning wheels with Geno who has reached his ceiling.

Sure. OK. And now we have to find someone who can be a competent QB for next season.

Hopefully JS has a plan.
 

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Wow. I didn't see this coming but if Geno and his agent were asking for 40 mil plus, then it's a no brainer. Glad we got a 3rd. From everything we talked about this year, the middle rounds are the best value anyway. This draft really doesn't have much in the way of elite prospects anyway.
Agree with others, no fucking way on Darnold. Yeah, overachieved last season but the real Darnold showed up when it mattered most. Absolutely atrocious vs the Lions when they had a legit shot at the 1 seed and then even worse vs. the Rams in the WC. And it's not all because of Oline play. Darnold had arguably, one of the top 3-4 play-callers coaching him, by far the best WR in the game and arguably, one of the best #2 WRs and an excellent TE and RB. Darnold, frankly is worse than Geno, imo. Although younger. 30+mil would be a gross overpay for Darnold. He's a 20 mil bridge at his very best, which looks like last season to me. Don't be surprised if he just goes back to the same old Darnold. Last season being his outlier. Similar to Geno in 2021.
Now we truly rebuild, imo. No more patchwork shit and spinning our tires, getting just enough traction to be a marginal play-off team. Hopefully can find a developmental QB in the 2nd or 3rd and build from the trenches and defense out. No more overpaying for WRs like DK and QBs like Geno and Russ. Or just set ourselves up for the QBof in 2026 when there might actually be someone worth taking a chance on. I hate this draft for QBs. WE could probably just start Howell and plan for 2026 with lots of cap space. Or sign a cheap QB (like 10 mil) as a bridge. Wasting 20+ mil on a bridge is dumb, imo.

We shall see how it goes but hoping to find a QB of the future in the middle rounds is pretty much the same as buying a lottery ticket.
 

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Definitely surprised to hear this news last night. My immediate conclusion was Geno's minimum price was so far beyond what Seattle was willing to pay that they made a call and got value to move on instead of just cutting him (which I was confident they would not do). The $44M schedule cap hit for 2025 was untenable.

And now we've leaped into the unknown. Lots of available mid-level QBs available. Darnold is a name that's going to come up. The popular critique on him is he needs an OL. I don't disagree with that, but I'll throw in another: he also needs good weapons, and we are probably trading our best receiving target here soon. But any QB we put under center this year is going to have those challenges.

I wouldn't mind making a call to NE about Joe Milton.
 
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