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Preston is kryptonite to Sam Bradford

 

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A big mobil guy with great length has many advantages. That's why he's able to drop back in the zone D and make that play. Preston Smith... wow what an impactful game he had.

Game changer... game saver... game MVP.
 

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smith on defense KC on offense , kelley hon ,mention , and hopkins 1st runnerup
 

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Nsyke on offense, Smith on defense & Hopkins on ST.
 

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It is frustrating to see your team completely dominate to go up 14 and knowing, not thinking but knowing, that the other team will get back in the game. Not sure why the offense continues to stall mid-game but this entire thing is a process.

We went from laughing stock to respectable in only 2 years, the next step is learning how to keep the foot on the gas pedal and finish drives with TDs. But it sure beats the old days of taking a sack on 3rd and 12, we saw that crap for too long around here. We may have found our answer at QB and everything starts there. I'm still not convinced he will be good enough to compete for titles but he's clearly good enough to give us a chance.

Pretty exciting about the future of this team.
 

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It is frustrating to see your team completely dominate to go up 14 and knowing, not thinking but knowing, that the other team will get back in the game. Not sure why the offense continues to stall mid-game but this entire thing is a process.

We went from laughing stock to respectable in only 2 years, the next step is learning how to keep the foot on the gas pedal and finish drives with TDs. But it sure beats the old days of taking a sack on 3rd and 12, we saw that crap for too long around here. We may have found our answer at QB and everything starts there. I'm still not convinced he will be good enough to compete for titles but he's clearly good enough to give us a chance.

Pretty exciting about the future of this team.

Bingo! Give it time - they will get there (just possibly not this season). The lapses hopefully eventually disappear once they get more familiar with each other & refuse to simply hang on to leads. The O line on this team is pretty amazing. They lose their best player & still play extremely well. No way were they even close a few years ago, and a loss similar to that would have spelled disaster at that time. The Redskins currently are 2nd in the NFL in sacks allowed while still being 3rd in the NFL in pass yds/game. Pretty impressive.

Still don't believe that Cousins gets enough credit, and yes I believe that he is capable of leading this team to the SB (again - just not this season in all likelihood). At times yesterday he appeared to run this team as well as anyone has since the SB days. He is getting this done with a lot of different targets so this is no longer simply a matter of having good weapons. Time to extend this guy.
 

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Yeah no doubt. They absolutely have to extend him or we go right back where we were before.
 

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Best and worst QBs of Week 10: Marcus Mariota leads the way

Cousins had 3rd best QBR in the NFL this week. Here is the summary for Cousins from that link:

Cousins posted a season-high 91.1 Total QBR in the Washington Redskins' 26-20 victory over the Vikings on Sunday. The key to Cousins’ QBR was his efficiency moving the chains. He gained a first down or touchdown on a career-high 51.5 percent of his pass attempts against the Vikings, including 58 percent of his passes on first down.

Many of those first downs were a result of Cousins’ downfield effectiveness, as he completed a season-high nine passes (on 16 attempts) on throws traveling more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. Last year, Cousins caught fire towards the end of the season; only Russell Wilson had a higher QBR from Week 10 onward. Is this the start of another hot stretch for the Washington QB in 2016?
 

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I'm still not convinced he will be good enough to compete for titles but he's clearly good enough to give us a chance.

Pretty exciting about the future of this team.

Isn't thinking he's good enough to give us a chance. The same thing as saying he's good enough to have us competing for titles?
 

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Isn't thinking he's good enough to give us a chance. The same thing as saying he's good enough to have us competing for titles?
i would think so
 

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Isn't thinking he's good enough to give us a chance. The same thing as saying he's good enough to have us competing for titles?


Nah. Let me give you an example. Matt Ryan, Mathew Staffford, Andy Daulton all LOOK like they may be good enough to give their teams a chance, and that's exactly where their teams have been. Don't laugh, Stafford got to the playoffs twice. So their teams over the years have had a chance and the QB play during the regular season was a reason. But have they actually done anything? Have any of those teams been contenders year after year? No and the QB being outplayed in January is one of the reasons.

I fear this is where Kirk will be. Just good enough to get you to the dance but never good enough to be the reason you contended year after year and actually win big.
 

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Nah. Let me give you an example. Matt Ryan, Mathew Staffford, Andy Daulton all LOOK like they may be good enough to give their teams a chance, and that's exactly where their teams have been. Don't laugh, Stafford got to the playoffs twice. So their teams over the years have had a chance and the QB play during the regular season was a reason. But have they actually done anything? Have any of those teams been contenders year after year? No and the QB being outplayed in January is one of the reasons.

I fear this is where Kirk will be. Just good enough to get you to the dance but never good enough to be the reason you contended year after year and actually win big.

Well - if Cousins can just get them into the playoffs on a regular basis that is a good start. Beyond that it is somewhat of a crapshoot & depends on a lot more than just a good QB. If QB were the only real factor beyond winning a SB then the Panthers should have destroyed the Broncos in the SB last season.

As for Stafford & Ryan - forget about the past - both of them are playing lights out rt now, and if their teams only go so far it likely will be more the result of the play of the rest of the team. I would also not rule out the possibility of either of them perhaps winning a SB at some pt in their career.

Again - having a good QB is important to success, but it is not then end all / be all to winning a championship. Just ask someone like Russell Wilson or Joe Flacco.
 

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Isn't it possible the reason QBS don't do as well in the post season is they play better defenses?
 

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Isn't it possible the reason QBS don't do as well in the post season is they play better defenses?

The opposing (better) QB is playing playoff defenses too.

Look every January we see Dalton, Alex Smith etc dispatched and in the large majority of cases the guys standing at the end are simply better QBs. Go look it up, the numbers are right there to see.

I think Russell Wilson falls in the "Good QB" camp, not a chance they would trade him for Kirk. Flacco? For some strange reason like Eli he can play great at times in the playoffs and when they do their teams win it all. When they revert their teams fail. Those guys support the argument that QB play is crucial. Last year was the rare exception when a SB winner did not have good QB play, like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer that game was the rare exception. For every Dlfer I can poiint out 15 SB winners quarterbacked by a Staubach, Brady etc. And of course Dilfer, Johnson, and Rypien were one and done, the Pack, Steelers etc remain competitive for 15 years in large part because they have good QBs.
 

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PFF gave Ty a team high grade of 83.9

:suds:

He has played well whenever he has been called on. This is probably SM's best FA signing. Unlike DJax and Norman 31 other teams could have signed him. They got great value on that contract.
 

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Listened to Schefter today. He said Cousins holds all the cards.
 

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The opposing (better) QB is playing playoff defenses too.

Look every January we see Dalton, Alex Smith etc dispatched and in the large majority of cases the guys standing at the end are simply better QBs. Go look it up, the numbers are right there to see.

I think Russell Wilson falls in the "Good QB" camp, not a chance they would trade him for Kirk. Flacco? For some strange reason like Eli he can play great at times in the playoffs and when they do their teams win it all. When they revert their teams fail. Those guys support the argument that QB play is crucial. Last year was the rare exception when a SB winner did not have good QB play, like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer that game was the rare exception. For every Dlfer I can poiint out 15 SB winners quarterbacked by a Staubach, Brady etc. And of course Dilfer, Johnson, and Rypien were one and done, the Pack, Steelers etc remain competitive for 15 years in large part because they have good QBs.

OK. I certainly think that Cousins - given some improvement - will be better than Smith & probably Dalton & Flacco.

Look at the last 5 SB winning QBs - Peyton, Brady, Wilson, Flacco & Eli. Peyton was a shell of himself in that game & not the reason for the win. Wilson is a good QB but relied more on his running game & defense in his SB win & during that season. You described Flacco & Eli perfectly above (no reason why Cousins can't do the same - not saying he will but he is capable). Brady of course is Brady.

The pt is that in this era you can get the job done w/ any # of types of QBs - does not have to be someone just like Brady or Rodgers. The Cowboys are proving that now. Their guy (unfortunately) is getting the job by not getting greedy & using his talent correctly - he is not throwing the team on his back & carrying them. Compare that to this year's Packers who still have Rodgers playing pretty well but they fall short because the rest of the team is injured & not very good.

I still think that many folks are underestimating Cousins & judging him more on the past than present. No - he won't be the next Brady, Brees or Rodgers, but I believe that he is capable of being as good as most of the other QBs in the NFL. Time will tell.
 
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