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and getting the reaction they are looking for


Someone I know and trust was downtown in Columbus today and said that the people gathered in front of the state house were calm and singing/chanting. They were not blocking the roads or anything. Then the police came down in an armored MPV and told them to leave. People ignored them and kept up what they were doing. Then the alert came across about the emergency declaration and ten minutes later he was being chased and pepper sprayed. He saw a nurse trying to help another person who got sprayed get sprayed herself. Sitting there, pouring water in someone's eyes, back to the crowd, and she got maced.

There is a video circulating of a guy in a gas mask shrugging at a cop who tried to spray him. Then the cop attacked him and tried to take his mask off.




You're doing it wrong, officers.

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Owner of 4th and State restaurant:
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Owner of Sole Classics, which got looted:
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jesus a lot of people are going to die this weekend.
and then in 2 weeks when the covid hits again

 

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Just watched Minnesota police and National Guard open fire with teargas and rubber bullets on a NBC news crew and protestors unprovoked.
 

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Holy fuck. Ali Velshi just got shot in the leg with a rubber bullet. He wasn't even looking at the police.
 

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Omar Jimenez's producer just got hit by a tear gas grenade.
 

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Ali Velshi just handed off to another reporter in Minny who promptly got fired upon.

His cameraman got hit and went down hard.
 

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Something massive is on fire in downtown Columbus. Looks to be just south of the statehouse if I understand the photo correctly.
 

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I gotta say, Vancouver's chances of being a hub city for the NHL playoffs are looking better and better as each day passes.
 

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I wonder if that Dollar Store next to the Office Depot in Minneapolis sells the following:

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Philly has the police on horseback - They could really use Schultz, Dupont, Saleski, and Kelly tonight.
 

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Bad scenes out of Seattle as well as CNN goes to commercial.
 
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We don't need police. Get rid of them. They've made themselves a domestic threat and have to be abolished. You can still enforce laws without policing. Patrols and muscled-out human power trips with guns and bats aren't necessary to enforce the law.

And make them clean up the damage. They were the aggressors. They started it.

But any white folks smashing windows and then darting to leave the peace black folks to deal with the consequences, screw you, too. You're not helping.
 
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And by the way, the first Target that got looted, it had it coming. Doing 40 blocks of surveillance for the police, and being the shoplifting testing site and treating everyone who walked in as a criminal, then refusing to sell supplies to protesters, they got what they deserved. But maybe don't burn down someone else's black-owned small business, or community barbershop, etc. Stick to the big box places. They're the ones who've been stealing from you for years by paying crappy wages and providing poor benefits despite plenty of means to do better.
 

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So FTP doesn't mean File Transfer Protocol?!?
 

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We don't need police. Get rid of them. They've made themselves a domestic threat and have to be abolished. You can still enforce laws without policing. Patrols and muscled-out human power trips with guns and bats aren't necessary to enforce the law.

And make them clean up the damage. They were the aggressors. They started it.

But any white folks smashing windows and then darting to leave the peace black folks to deal with the consequences, screw you, too. You're not helping.

Disagree.
1) All it takes is one conviction of a policeman for a crime they commit to set the precedent that they have the same consequences for doing their job illegally as any other profession. The immunity needs to stop. All this video from different cities showing cops over stepping their bounds needs to lead to these individual cops being held accountable. Then you will see change. The guy who knelt on that innocent man's neck is a guy who not only believed there would be no consequence for his actions, he is a guy who had it proven 18 times before that he was above the law. 10% of the people in any given group are useless shit heads. Police are no different. Let those shit heads face consequences and the rest either shape up or get rid of the trash through attrition. No more automatic heroes.

2) The militarization of the police contributes to the problem. But you can also see why they feel they need it. When Y'all Qaeda overruns a state house with military weapons because they can't go to Fuddruckers, you have to have equal or superior firepower in case it goes wrong. It's literally an arms race. British police can protect their streets largely with batons because they don't have to worry about meeting an AR-15 every time they step out of their car. At the end of the day, I have not seen any of these protests contain any weapons in the hands of anyone but the cops. If the protests for haircuts went violent, it would be a completely different story.
 
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