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Hunter Henry signs an extension.
3 TE sign deals in the last couple days. Makes you wonder if the TE market and prospects are underwhelming.
 

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3 TE sign deals in the last couple days. Makes you wonder if the TE market and prospects are underwhelming.
Well all three that signed certainly fit that criteria. At least from a fantasy prospective.
 

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3 TE sign deals in the last couple days. Makes you wonder if the TE market and prospects are underwhelming.
There is one great TE prospect for sure, but anyone who wants him will have to want to spend a #1 to get him.. possibly a top 10 top 15.
Well all three that signed certainly fit that criteria. At least from a fantasy prospective.
I dunno I kinda like the Dolphins signing
 

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There is one great TE prospect for sure, but anyone who wants him will have to want to spend a #1 to get him.. possibly a top 10 top 15.
In today's "win now" NFL market, how many great TE prospects pay dividends in year one?
Cant use LaPorta because he came out of nowhere.
 

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In today's "win now" NFL market, how many great TE prospects pay dividends in year one?
Cant use LaPorta because he came out of nowhere.
You know that I certainly would not expect anything.
And I would say there was some inkling that LaPorta was going to be good, he wasn't completely out of nowhere...but there were six TE's with that same feeling of 'maybe'..and he's the only one, so the odds are certainly not good
 

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I dunno I kinda like the Dolphins signing

barely even scraps left after Hill/Waddle/random WR3/RBs all get their cut from the Tua pie, think MIA is in the bottom 5 in targeting TEs last couple years, one of the lowest last yr
 

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There is one great TE prospect for sure, but anyone who wants him will have to want to spend a #1 to get him.. possibly a top 10 top 15.

I dunno I kinda like the Dolphins signing
As a Dolphins fan I can assure that Mike McDaniel isn't going to change his offense to all of the sudden be tight end friendly. 52 targets total for that position last year. 52!! That's 3 per game and that's for the whole position, not even one guy. The year before Mike McDaniel took over the Dolphins led the league in tight end targets with 174 (yes more than the Ravens and Chiefs) in 2021. Mike McDaniel took over in 2022 and they had 75 tight end targets with the exact same personnel as the year before. That's 100 less targets under Mike McDaniel. Then last year it went down to 52 targets. If Jonnu Smith has more than 30 catches in that offense this year it will shock me.
 

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I know Shanny has his critics but if he cant get anything out of Trey.... Vikes may as well pay Cousins.
 

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I know Shanny has his critics but if he cant get anything out of Trey.... Vikes may as well pay Cousins.
This I agree with. And as somebody that just drafted Jefferson first in a startup dynasty I really hope they don't think Trey Lance is any kind of answer. Hell I'd rather Ryan Tannehill go there than Lance.
 

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I know Shanny has his critics but if he cant get anything out of Trey.... Vikes may as well pay Cousins.
I get what you're saying, but the timing wasn't the greatest. 9ers had their sights set on a Super Bowl, and Jimmy G. seemed like the better option. The kid was named the starter the following season, then promptly went on the IR for the rest of the year. In the meantime, Shanny found a kid who fit into his system.

Shanny isn't known for his patience. He's also pretty good at finding a scapegoat. Just ask Steve Wilks.
 

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Shanny isn't known for his patience. He's also pretty good at finding a scapegoat.
All the more reason to admire what he does. Wish more NFL franchises took a page from him - like my Bears.
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As a Dolphins fan I can assure that Mike McDaniel isn't going to change his offense to all of the sudden be tight end friendly. 52 targets total for that position last year. 52!! That's 3 per game and that's for the whole position, not even one guy. The year before Mike McDaniel took over the Dolphins led the league in tight end targets with 174 (yes more than the Ravens and Chiefs) in 2021. Mike McDaniel took over in 2022 and they had 75 tight end targets with the exact same personnel as the year before. That's 100 less targets under Mike McDaniel. Then last year it went down to 52 targets. If Jonnu Smith has more than 30 catches in that offense this year it will shock me.
well Mike McDaniels learned from Shanny, who does use his TE's (sometimes), so anything is possible. And you just never know when on of those jack rabbits outside turns up lame and they need to turn elsewhere
 

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Hey, maybe Trey learned a little from two years with Shanny, and one with MM. certainly plenty available to soak in. Never know
 

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Hey, maybe Trey learned a little from two years with Shanny, and one with MM. certainly plenty available to soak in. Never know
Lol, ya gotta play to learn, and I seriously doubt he learned a thing from MM. Maybe Dak gave him some tips. Maybe.

I'm just sayin' the kid was 21 years old and had some bad breaks. Never given a chance after that.

With the state of NFL QBs these days, It would be amazing if he didn't get another shot. Seriously, what the hell is he gonna do on the Cowboys?
 

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All the more reason to admire what he does. Wish more NFL franchises took a page from him - like my Bears.
:2cents:
I wish the Bears would as well, even though they are division rivals.

Fields to Moore is a killer combo and a pretty good way to build an offense.

Too bad we ain't gonna see it.
 

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Raiders re-signed RB Ameer Abdullah.

Abdullah has spent the last two seasons with the Raiders and served primarily as their kick returner. A nine-year vet of the league, Abdullah hasn’t offered much utility as a runner in recent years, but with Josh Jacobs appearing unlikely to return next season, he at least serves as a familiar backup while the Raiders look to construct their roster.
 

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Raiders re-signed RB Ameer Abdullah.

Abdullah has spent the last two seasons with the Raiders and served primarily as their kick returner. A nine-year vet of the league, Abdullah hasn’t offered much utility as a runner in recent years, but with Josh Jacobs appearing unlikely to return next season, he at least serves as a familiar backup while the Raiders look to construct their roster.
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Lol, ya gotta play to learn, and I seriously doubt he learned a thing from MM. Maybe Dak gave him some tips. Maybe.

I'm just sayin' the kid was 21 years old and had some bad breaks. Never given a chance after that.

With the state of NFL QBs these days, It would be amazing if he didn't get another shot. Seriously, what the hell is he gonna do on the Cowboys?
Well that's the thing, he had a package of gimmick plays as a rookie, got hurt. Same thing in year two, couple of fill in starts both years, 2-2 as a starter, it's not like he's had a ton of chances to show much.
Now granted, he didn't show much of dick in those chances. But like the story mentioned, he's still younger than incoming rookie Bo Nix, and he's been around real pros like Jimmy G, and Dak, real NFL coaches- say what you will about MM, but there's certainly worse coaches out there-, gotta see the kid really get a shot before I'm ready to %100 give up on him.
 

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ya gotta play to learn
This sounds so simple, right? Playing football helps a player learn to play football.
Yet we see training camps with "walk thrus" and then very limited snaps in preseason games.
No wonder these guys arent ready.
 
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