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[DirtDirtDirt]

It's just weird that J.D. is projected to have such a large contract after fetching little at the trade deadline.

Prob has a lot to do with his pending FA status

Im surprised there is such little talk about Arizona retaining him

They just want to morph right back into Goldschmidt and no one else I guess

 

[PolarVortex]

Evaluating the top 20, by risk factor and investment requirements:
Low Risk
1. Eric Hosmer. Think Tony Perez or Adrian Gonzales. 22-28 homerun power, steady 90-100 RBI every year. Stays healthy. He'll be a good investment but as a Scott Boras client, he'll also be a bit overpaid.
2. Jay Bruce - Quietly on his way to a 400+ homerun career. Has top 30 homeruns five times already and is still just 30 years old. Has averaged 151 games a year over the last 8 years.
3. Addison Reed - solid late innings guy. Better suited to set up than close.
4. Carlos Santana - At least 88 walks and at least 152 games played in each of the last five years. BA will never be much to brag about but his OBP is way above average. Probably not the run producer you would want at first base (averages 24 hr/81 RBI per yr), but you could also do a lot worse. And performing Soul Sacrifice at Woodstock while lit on window pain...come on, what's not to like?
5. Wade Davis - Solid money in each of his five season in the bullpen.
6. LoCain - Hits righties and lefties equally well. Royals batted him third most of the last three years but probably more suited to hitting second.

Moderate risk
1. JD Martinez. Has missed 40+ games in 3 of the last 4 years. Solid candidate for failing a random drug screening. Needs to DH because his defense is pathetic. But when he is in the lineup, he dominates.
2. Moose Tacos. Classic example of over-achieving in his walk year. He may never have another season like the one he had in 2017. But he'll play 140+ games a year and he is solid in the clubhouse.
3. Lance Lynn - Got the TJ out of the way so he is good to go. Not a 200 IP guy, probably more like 180 but his high strikeout rate will win a few games.
4. Alex Cobb - quality season after not pitching the two previous years. Could be the next Jake Arrieta. Could also be the next Drew Smyly
5. Greg Holland - Got his TJ out of the way also. He's good to go. Should have a few quality years left.
6. Todd Frazier. Has morphed into Rob Deer. But he'll be in the lineup every day...if you can afford to play him.
7. Mike Minor - Returns after missing two years. Versatile guy in the bullpen.

High risk
Unfortunately all of the upper tier pitchers fall in the high risk category
1. Darvish - extremely high K/9 rate will net him more money than he is worth. Has missed 65 starts in his 6 year career. Don't carry him on your post season roster.
2. Arrieta - IPS have steadily dropped and ERA has steady risen since his Cy season, but he'll be paid based on that season.
3. Cozart. Another classic example of a player ridiculously over-achieving in his walk year. Posted a 141 OPS+ after his previous career high was 108. Yeah, this guy is going to break some fan base's collective hearts.
4. Logan Morrison - see Zack Cosart.
5. Brandon Morrow - So many surgeries in his pitching arm that it looks like swiss cheese.
6. Jonathon LuCroy - Power drop off was alarming last year despite playing in two of the best hitter's parks in MLB. This guy may have gotten old over night.

 

[JohnU]

I think with so many players on the list, I smell a collusion. If they all get a raise, then what?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Some, I assume.

*
RF Ichiro Suzuki elected free agency.
RHP Ricky Nolasco elected free agency.
RHP Huston Street elected free agency.
LF Eric Young Jr. elected free agency.
RHP Yu Darvish elected free agency.
LF Curtis Granderson elected free agency.
LF Franklin Gutierrez elected free agency.
RHP Brandon Morrow elected free agency.
2B Chase Utley elected free agency.
LHP Tony Watson elected free agency.
C A.J. Ellis elected free agency.
2B Neil Walker elected free agency.
RHP Matt Belisle elected free agency.
RHP Dillon Gee elected free agency.
LHP Glen Perkins elected free agency.
LHP Hector Santiago elected free agency.
SS Jose Reyes elected free agency.
3B Todd Frazier elected free agency.
LHP Jaime Garcia elected free agency.
DH Matt Holliday elected free agency.
RHP Michael Pineda elected free agency.
1B Yonder Alonso elected free agency.
LHP CC Sabathia elected free agency.
CF Jarrod Dyson elected free agency.
C Carlos Ruiz elected free agency.
CF Peter Bourjos elected free agency.
RHP Steve Cishek elected free agency.
RHP Alex Cobb elected free agency.
1B Lucas Duda elected free agency.
1B Logan Morrison elected free agency.
LF Colby Rasmus elected free agency.
RHP Sergio Romo elected free agency.
RHP Andrew Cashner elected free agency.
CF Carlos Gomez elected free agency.
RHP Miguel Gonzalez elected free agency.
RHP Jason Grilli elected free agency.
LHP Brett Anderson elected free agency.
2B Darwin Barney elected free agency.
C Miguel Montero elected free agency.
LF Michael Saunders elected free agency.
RHP Matt Albers elected free agency.
RHP Joe Blanton elected free agency.
LF Howie Kendrick elected free agency.
RHP Brandon Kintzler elected free agency.
C Jose Lobaton elected free agency.
LHP Oliver Perez elected free agency.
LF Jayson Werth elected free agency.
LF Gregor Blanco elected free agency.
LHP Jorge De La Rosa elected free agency.
C Chris Iannetta elected free agency.
RF J.D. Martinez elected free agency.
RHP Fernando Rodney elected free agency.
RHP R.A. Dickey elected free agency.
RHP Jason Motte elected free agency.
RHP Jeremy Hellickson elected free agency.
RHP Ubaldo Jimenez elected free agency.
RHP Chris Tillman elected free agency.
LHP Fernando Abad elected free agency.
RHP Blaine Boyer elected free agency.
CF Rajai Davis elected free agency.
RHP Doug Fister elected free agency.
1B Mitch Moreland elected free agency.
RHP Addison Reed elected free agency.
RHP Jake Arrieta elected free agency.
C Alex Avila elected free agency.
RHP Wade Davis elected free agency.
LHP Brian Duensing elected free agency.
LF Jon Jay elected free agency.
RHP John Lackey elected free agency.
RHP Koji Uehara elected free agency.
SS Zack Cozart elected free agency.
RF Jay Bruce elected free agency.
CF Austin Jackson elected free agency.
1B Carlos Santana elected free agency.
RHP Bryan Shaw elected free agency.
RHP Joe Smith elected free agency.
RHP Tyler Chatwood elected free agency.
C Jonathan Lucroy elected free agency.
RHP Pat Neshek elected free agency.
1B Mark Reynolds elected free agency.
RHP Anibal Sanchez elected free agency.
DH Carlos Beltran elected free agency.
RHP Tyler Clippard elected free agency.
LHP Francisco Liriano elected free agency.
LF Cameron Maybin elected free agency.
RHP Trevor Cahill elected free agency.
CF Lorenzo Cain elected free agency.
SS Alcides Escobar elected free agency.
1B Eric Hosmer elected free agency.
3B Mike Moustakas elected free agency.
RHP Andrew Bailey elected free agency.
RHP Yovani Gallardo elected free agency.
2B Brandon Phillips elected free agency.
LF Ben Revere elected free agency.

Would you please sort that list two ways - by former team and also by the players' natural positions.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Honestly, that's a pretty weak list. JD Martinez maybe? Cain (but he's old for a long term deal)?

Measured by WAR, Carlos Santana would have been the 2nd best player on the Giants last year.

Asshole.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Cleveland is going to need to replace its bullpen.

Huh?

 

[msgkings322]

Measured by WAR, Carlos Santana would have been the 2nd best player on the Giants last year.

Asshole.

That's nothing to be proud of.

Douchebag.

 

[PolarVortex]

Huh?

Word. Injuns bullpen simply was not built for the playoffs like the Astros bullpen was.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Word. Injuns bullpen simply was not built for the playoffs like the Astros bullpen was.

I'll take "stupid shit people say on the internets" for $1,000, Alex.

 

[navamind]

Lol how is Hosmer low risk? Dude was worth -0.1 WAR in 2016 and 0.0 in 2014. He was a well below average offensive 1B those years. he's coming off a nice 2017 season, but I'm not convinced he'll repeat it (his .351 BABIP was well above his career average of .316). 25 home runs is nothing special and his power numbers are barely above league average and a career .342 OBP isn't that good for a 1B.

 

[PolarVortex]

Lol how is Hosmer low risk? Dude was worth -0.1 WAR in 2016 and 0.0 in 2014. He was a well below average offensive 1B those years. he's coming off a nice 2017 season, but I'm not convinced he'll repeat it (his .351 BABIP was well above his career average of .316). 25 home runs is nothing special and his power numbers are barely above league average and a career .342 OBP isn't that good for a 1B.

The guy came into his own in 2015. You seem to want to pick on his career stats. I'm more interested in what he has done the last three years. So, why is he low risk? Here's why:
He'll play every day.
He'll produce. averaging 23 homers, 92 runs scored, 97 RBI over the last three years.
He is coming off of a season in which he was in the upper third of all MLB first baseman in OPS and most of those ahead of him are tied up in long term contracts.
He's only 27 years old so has at least 5 more years in his prime and probably has not even peaked offensively yet.
He's played his entire career in a park that does not favor power hitters so the limits of his power is still unkown.

 

[navamind]

unless he stops hitting so many ground balls (his career GB% is 53.4% and it's been over 55% the last two years), I don't see those power numbers really improving. He's also hitting fewer fly balls than he was in his first few seasons and his hard contact rate is pretty meh (ranks 121st among qualified players over the last 3 years).

that's not to say that I expect him to revert back to 2016 form. But I do think he'll see some regression, at least in the BA department.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Lol how is Hosmer low risk? Dude was worth -0.1 WAR in 2016 and 0.0 in 2014. He was a well below average offensive 1B those years. he's coming off a nice 2017 season, but I'm not convinced he'll repeat it (his .351 BABIP was well above his career average of .316). 25 home runs is nothing special and his power numbers are barely above league average and a career .342 OBP isn't that good for a 1B.

Enjoy him, there is a 99.9999999% chance he lands in Boston

 

[JohnU]

Would you please sort that list two ways - by former team and also by the players' natural positions.

That honestly isn't my job. But MLB has various team websites that can help you with that.
Go to Google and type in MLB.com

 

[calsnowskier]

Lol how is Hosmer low risk? Dude was worth -0.1 WAR in 2016 and 0.0 in 2014. He was a well below average offensive 1B those years. he's coming off a nice 2017 season, but I'm not convinced he'll repeat it (his .351 BABIP was well above his career average of .316). 25 home runs is nothing special and his power numbers are barely above league average and a career .342 OBP isn't that good for a 1B.

Nothing special? Didn’t the league leader only have like 17 last year?

...

Oh?

...

That was just the GIANTS leader? Oh my...



Nevermind...

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Evaluating the top 20, by risk factor and investment requirements:
Low Risk
1. Eric Hosmer. Think Tony Perez or Adrian Gonzales. 22-28 homerun power, steady 90-100 RBI every year. Stays healthy. He'll be a good investment but as a Scott Boras client, he'll also be a bit overpaid.
2. Jay Bruce - Quietly on his way to a 400+ homerun career. Has top 30 homeruns five times already and is still just 30 years old. Has averaged 151 games a year over the last 8 years.
3. Addison Reed - solid late innings guy. Better suited to set up than close.
4. Carlos Santana - At least 88 walks and at least 152 games played in each of the last five years. BA will never be much to brag about but his OBP is way above average. Probably not the run producer you would want at first base (averages 24 hr/81 RBI per yr), but you could also do a lot worse. And performing Soul Sacrifice at Woodstock while lit on window pain...come on, what's not to like?
5. Wade Davis - Solid money in each of his five season in the bullpen.
6. LoCain - Hits righties and lefties equally well. Royals batted him third most of the last three years but probably more suited to hitting second.

Moderate risk
1. JD Martinez. Has missed 40+ games in 3 of the last 4 years. Solid candidate for failing a random drug screening. Needs to DH because his defense is pathetic. But when he is in the lineup, he dominates.
2. Moose Tacos. Classic example of over-achieving in his walk year. He may never have another season like the one he had in 2017. But he'll play 140+ games a year and he is solid in the clubhouse.
3. Lance Lynn - Got the TJ out of the way so he is good to go. Not a 200 IP guy, probably more like 180 but his high strikeout rate will win a few games.
4. Alex Cobb - quality season after not pitching the two previous years. Could be the next Jake Arrieta. Could also be the next Drew Smyly
5. Greg Holland - Got his TJ out of the way also. He's good to go. Should have a few quality years left.
6. Todd Frazier. Has morphed into Rob Deer. But he'll be in the lineup every day...if you can afford to play him.
7. Mike Minor - Returns after missing two years. Versatile guy in the bullpen.

High risk
Unfortunately all of the upper tier pitchers fall in the high risk category
1. Darvish - extremely high K/9 rate will net him more money than he is worth. Has missed 65 starts in his 6 year career. Don't carry him on your post season roster.
2. Arrieta - IPS have steadily dropped and ERA has steady risen since his Cy season, but he'll be paid based on that season.
3. Cozart. Another classic example of a player ridiculously over-achieving in his walk year. Posted a 141 OPS+ after his previous career high was 108. Yeah, this guy is going to break some fan base's collective hearts.
4. Logan Morrison - see Zack Cosart.
5. Brandon Morrow - So many surgeries in his pitching arm that it looks like swiss cheese.
6. Jonathon LuCroy - Power drop off was alarming last year despite playing in two of the best hitter's parks in MLB. This guy may have gotten old over night.

Really solid work from Polar "I wish I was Corey Feldman" Vortex


One guy I dont believe mentioned that could fall in the high reward Alex Cobb category is Tyson Ross,....Always an electric arm, will be 2 years removed from his TJ surgery

 

[PolarVortex]

Really solid work from Polar "I wish I was Corey Feldman" Vortex


One guy I dont believe mentioned that could fall in the high reward Alex Cobb category is Tyson Ross,....Always an electric arm, will be 2 years removed from his TJ surgery

I might be willing to 'accommodate' Charlie Sheen if a could win a $40 million law suit out of the deal.

 

[PolarVortex]

That honestly isn't my job. But MLB has various team websites that can help you with that.
Go to Google and type in OurBullpenChokedInThePlayoffs.com

Fixed it for you

 

[navamind]

Cobb and Lynn are coming off decent seasons and have track records of success, but I'm a little wary about their dips in strikeouts though I wouldn't be surprised if those spike next year. Ross was a really good pitcher a few years ago, but his health is a huge concern and he had more walks than strikeouts last year.

 

[navamind]

Jay Bruce Reportedly Seeking Five-Year Deal


Lol