F Dan Snyder

[deanpet21]

Then why do we have the lowest attendance in the NFL even though MULTIPLE teams had worse records?

The NFL is a business and each team is part of that business.

Ravens took alot of fans away with their success. Plus you add that we havent had a championship in a long while will do the trick also. The younger fans today jus follower winners. The days of the de-hards are gone. Heck, even some older fans went to the Ravens that is how bad the losing has been here.

 

[duke1861]

Ravens took alot of fans away with their success. Plus you add that we havent had a championship in a long while will do the trick also. The younger fans today jus follower winners. The days of the de-hards are gone. Heck, even some older fans went to the Ravens that is how bad the losing has been here.

You are assuming quite a bit here.

Multiple fans on this board have said otherwise.

DarrellGreenFan and I have said Snyder is the main cause.

Skinsdad has stated that the name change is giving him pause.

Sty has indicated that he is confused and finds his loyalty in question due to Snyder and RR.

None of us mentioned team success. PLEASE correct me if I am wrong Sty, Skinsdad, and DarrellGreenFan. I apologize if I am misspeaking.

You continue to absolve Snyder of causing the fan exodus.

 

[duke1861]

They would of gotten the same money or even more if they went elsewhere. They CHOSE to STAY here. Im not arguing that Dan is a bad owner but these two guys like what they see football wise with RR or they would have never resigned here. Fact!

You don't know what money they could or could have not gotten. They clearly like RR, which I do not understand given his terrible track record as a coach. Again, I have stated I do NOT understand why they signed here. RR is a player's coach but has failed to deliver on-the-field results. He only has 3 winning seasons in 11 as a coach. You have never addressed this.

I have also admitted that I would NEVER play for an owner like Snyder. Clearly, Allen and TMac feel differently.

You never answered my questions above. I answered your question but you failed to answer mine.

 

[deanpet21]

You are assuming quite a bit here.

Multiple fans on this board have said otherwise.

DarrellGreenFan and I have said Snyder is the main cause.

Skinsdad has stated that the name change is giving him pause.

Sty has indicated that he is confused and finds his loyalty in question due to Snyder and RR.

None of us mentioned team success. PLEASE correct me if I am wrong Sty, Skinsdad, and DarrellGreenFan. I apologize if I am misspeaking.

You continue to absolve Snyder of causing the fan exodus.

No its part of the problem, the majority of the problem is losing. Everyone has there own reasons but this is not an expansion team like skinsdad says.

 

[deanpet21]

You don't know what money they could or could have not gotten. They clearly like RR, which I do not understand given his terrible track record as a coach. Again, I have stated I do NOT understand why they signed here. RR is a player's coach but has failed to deliver on-the-field results. He only has 3 winning seasons in 11 as a coach. You have never addressed this.

I have also admitted that I would NEVER play for an owner like Snyder. Clearly, Allen and TMac feel differently.

You never answered my questions above. I answered your question but you failed to answer mine.

I dont care what RR track record is stat wise. He was a former coach of the year, that is good enough for me. Of course they would of gotten more money if they held out. Both signed below market deals. Why? b/c they wanted to stay here. Who cares what you think. Our star players wanted to play for RR. That's what matters. You cant accept that so be it.

 

[duke1861]

I dont care what RR track record is stat wise. He was a former coach of the year, that is good enough for me. Of course they would of gotten more money if they held out. Both signed below market deals. Why? b/c they wanted to stay here. Who cares what you think. Our star players wanted to play for RR. That's what matters. You cant accept that so be it.

So he had 1 good year in 11 years and that is what is important? That is odd. If the stats don't matter, what matters? Emotion and loyalty? Were you this loyal to Zorn and Gruden?

They got market value deals and Skinsdad proved that.

You care what I think because you asked me????? You literally asked me why they signed here????

Are you going to answer these or not?

Now you answer:
Are the Commanders the most toxic organization in the NFL?
Name another pro sports team with a worse owner?
Name another pro sports team who has a worse on-field/off-the-field situation?

 

[deanpet21]

So he had 1 good year in 11 years and that is what is important? That is odd. If the stats don't matter, what matters? Emotion and loyalty? Were you this loyal to Zorn and Gruden?

They got market value deals and Skinsdad proved that.

You care what I think because you asked me????? You literally asked me why they signed here????

Are you going to answer these or not?

Now you answer:
Are the Commanders the most toxic organization in the NFL?
Name another pro sports team with a worse owner?
Name another pro sports team who has a worse on-field/off-the-field situation?

Market value was the Brown deal and Tmac didnt get it. Allen deal was not market value either. I dont care what skindsdad said. That is a fact. The organization is bad never doubted that but our star players are still signing here. We have a bad owner yes. Never disputed that. I have siad Zorn and Gruden were bad coaches. IMO RR is better than both of them. Im saying the team doesnt care what you think Tmac and Allen resigned here. IF you calim this team is all doom and gloom why would they resign? You say money but that is bullshit b/c they would of gotten there money or more money elsewhere.

Football and RR trumped ownership and state of the franchise when Allen and Tmac resigned. Admit it!

 

[duke1861]

Market value was the Brown deal and Tmac didnt get it. Allen deal was not market value either. I dont care what skindsdad said. That is a fact. The organization is bad never doubted that but our star players are still signing here. We have a bad owner yes. Never disputed that. I have siad Zorn and Gruden were bad coaches. IMO RR is better than both of them. Im saying the team doesnt care what you think Tmac and Allen resigned here. IF you calim this team is all doom and gloom why would they resign? You say money but that is bullshit b/c they would of gotten there money or more money elsewhere.

Football and RR trumped ownership and state of the franchise when Allen and Tmac resigned. Admit it!

I am not responding because you will not answer my questions. You refuse to answer the questions I have asked.


You have been and do continually get corrected. I have corrected you at least a handful of times. You literally argue with every poster here and nobody agrees with you.

I am done. Peace out.

 

[skinsdad62]

No link to the past but its the same players. Ok big guy.

sonny jurgensen nor john riggins played for the commanders and i can go on . no link to native american tradition even the colors arent the same

 

[deanpet21]

I am not responding because you will not answer my questions. You refuse to answer the questions I have asked.


You have been and do continually get corrected. I have corrected you at least a handful of times. You literally argue with every poster here and nobody agrees with you.

I am done. Peace out.

well learn how to read. already answered your questions. You are wrong b/c our star players resigned here where you said they wouldnt b/c of the current state of the franchise. you corrected nothing. You are wrong. you dont like being a fan then move to another team.

 

[deanpet21]

sonny jurgensen nor john riggins played for the commanders and i can go on . no link to native american tradition even the colors arent the same

Are the Cleveland Guardians a expansion team?

 

[skinsdad62]

I respect that. I just dont think its one in the same. You dont have to boycott the team if you hate Dan b/c the only loser becomes you and the fans. The name change was just a matter of time. Deep down inside you had to know it was coming. Sure I like Redskins but I know why it was changed and I actually like the name Commanders. It could of been a lot worst. I actually like the new helmets. The unis are going to take some time for me.

You are exactly right with the expansion team non-sense. Skinsdad doesnt get it. The Cleveland Guardians are not an expansion team just like we are not.

yes they are the guardians arent the indians

 

[deanpet21]

yes they are the guardians arent the indians

they are not an expansion team. That is the whole point

 

[duke1861]

well learn how to read. already answered your questions. You are wrong b/c our star players resigned here where you said they wouldnt b/c of the current state of the franchise. you corrrect nothing. You are wrong

Learn to read?

No you did not. I never said Allen would not sign here?

Where are the answers to these questions?

Are the Commanders the most toxic organization in the NFL?
Name another pro sports team with a worse owner?
Name another pro sports team who has a worse on-field/off-the-field situation?

 

[skinsdad62]

I dont care what RR track record is stat wise. He was a former coach of the year, that is good enough for me. Of course they would of gotten more money if they held out. Both signed below market deals. Why? b/c they wanted to stay here. Who cares what you think. Our star players wanted to play for RR. That's what matters. You cant accept that so be it.

stop lying , both signed market value contracts . why did the others leave dean ? that door swings both ways

 

[duke1861]

well learn how to read. already answered your questions. You are wrong b/c our star players resigned here where you said they wouldnt b/c of the current state of the franchise. you corrected nothing. You are wrong. you dont like being a fan then move to another team.

I corrected you on:
1. Counsins leading us to the playoffs.
2. Jon Bostic did a "decent job"
3. 80% of fans approved the Wentz trade.
4. Multiple teams approached the Colts about Wentz.

 

[skinsdad62]

they are not an expansion team. That is the whole point

again if you dont know what i mean by expansion team i cant help you , both are new teams with their histories gone i dont care who plays for them its immaterial

 

[deanpet21]

Learn to read?

No you did not. I never said Allen would not sign here?

Where are the answers to these questions?

Are the Commanders the most toxic organization in the NFL?
Name another pro sports team with a worse owner?
Name another pro sports team who has a worse on-field/off-the-field situation?

Fine already did but you cant comprehend. Yes, I cant right now, I cant right now. Nothing to do with football. You try to say you cant be a fan b/c of Dan which is total bullshit.

 

[deanpet21]

stop lying , both signed market value contracts . why did the others leave dean ? that door swings both ways

They didnt, Brown was the market deal. tmac got less. Allen wasnt market value. it was very team friendly. those are not lies.

 

[deanpet21]

I corrected you on:
1. Counsins leading us to the playoffs.
2. Jon Bostic did a "decent job"
3. 80% of fans approved the Wentz trade.
4. Multiple teams approached the Colts about Wentz.

Who cares the fans wanted Wentz over Ryan. Who gives a shit about Bostic. Yo u still on the the Wetnz trade? lol