Eric Winston wants to see playoff seeding changed...

[rmilia1]

Personally I'd rather just get rid of divisions altogether . You play everyone on your

The NFL is borderline NBA-like in terms of lack of parity. The only thing keeping any resemblance of randomness is that the playoffs are a knockout tournament; and even then the top 2 seeds get freaking byes. MLB is far more equitable in terms of sport. The Yankees are never winning 120 games a year even if they outspend #2 by 300M

Or in other words: The better team wins far more often in the NFL and NBA than most any other sport.

NHL and MLB probably are on the other end of the scale if anything.

I guess it depends on how you define best teams

Since playoff ecpansion you rarely see the 1 overall seed win a SB. And that's with the Pats incredible consistency . It's true you see more 1s and 2s but the bye is huge in that . Baseball went through a little stretch where the WC fared well but that was pre WC game . Since that's been in place the top teams have won the WS

 

[Manster7588]

The only thing if be interested in is just putting the 12 best teams in. 8 division winners and the 4 teams with the best records after that. But that'll never happen so leave it alone

If you suggesting the possibility an NFC team plays versus a AFC team before the super bowl, then congratulations you just came up with a dumber idea than the OP did.

 

[rmilia1]

If you suggesting the possibility an NFC team plays versus a AFC team before the super bowl, then congratulations you just came up with a dumber idea than the OP did.

Well there wouldn't be conferences if you just took the best 12. But I think all pro sports should get rid of conferences or leagues . It's an old tradition with no value other than nostalgia

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

Well there wouldn't be conferences if you just took the best 12. But I think all pro sports should get rid of conferences or leagues . It's an old tradition with no value other than nostalgia

No.

 

[rmilia1]

No.

Like I said . It'll never happen .

 

[PhilSimms11]

I'd rather they got rid of the wildcard teams and just the eight division winners go to the playoffs.

And you guys think seeding the playoff teams by W-L record is fucked up.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

Like I said . It'll never happen .

Nor should it.

 

[rmilia1]

Nor should it.

It's just my opinion man. Conferences ( or leagues in baseball ) are redundant and useless . You've already got divisions . No need for anything else . The only reason people think otherwise is conditioning . They're just used to it. But that doesn't mean it makes sense , especially when superior teams miss the playoffs in favor of lesser teams .

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

It's just my opinion man. Conferences ( or leagues in baseball ) are redundant and useless . You've already got divisions . No need for anything else . The only reason people think otherwise is conditioning . They're just used to it. But that doesn't mean it makes sense , especially when superior teams miss the playoffs in favor of lesser teams .

Rarely does an important team miss the playoffs. Sure there is probably a team better not in the playoffs than the worst team in the playoffs but rarely is that ever a real title contender.

There is a lot of fun in an us versus them setup. I don't think there is a better version of this than the mlb where there are even different rules. Teams mainly only play their own league/conference. This gives fans of other teams one reason or another to care about the championship. Why anybody would want to take that away is beyond me.

 

[broncosmitty]

Well there wouldn't be conferences if you just took the best 12. But I think all pro sports should get rid of conferences or leagues . It's an old tradition with no value other than nostalgia

It's something to win.

That's the point of divisions and conferences.

Nostalgia isn't a factor.

 

[broncosmitty]

It's just my opinion man. Conferences ( or leagues in baseball ) are redundant and useless . You've already got divisions . No need for anything else . The only reason people think otherwise is conditioning . They're just used to it. But that doesn't mean it makes sense , especially when superior teams miss the playoffs in favor of lesser teams .

We should still have rainbows for posts like this.

 

[rmilia1]

We should still have rainbows for posts like this.

I don't think it's dumb at all to want the best teams in every sport in the playoffs . I'm not sure why anyone would disagree actually . This isn't college sports where different teams play vastly different schedules .

 

[Manster7588]

Well there wouldn't be conferences if you just took the best 12. But I think all pro sports should get rid of conferences or leagues . It's an old tradition with no value other than nostalgia

Congratulations you can now take the Dunce cap off of Phil and wear it yourself.

 

[Ricky Roma]

More teams in the playoffs? Bad idea.
Revising the seeding by records in the playoffs? Good idea.

 

[PhilSimms11]

More teams in the playoffs? Bad idea.
Revising the seeding by records in the playoffs? Good idea.

If they want to add one more team to the playoffs, fine. If they don't, I'm good with that as well. It's hilarious how people react when you hint at not giving a division winner a home game. Jesus. They act as though you're hacking into their bank account. I love the snarky responses. If you're going to steal my money (seed teams by record) let's just get rid of banks (divisions). Banks aren't broken so stop trying to fix them.

 

[Ricky Roma]

If they want to add one more team to the playoffs, fine. If they don't, I'm good with that as well. It's hilarious how people react when you hint at not giving a division winner a home game. Jesus. They act as though you're hacking into their bank account. I love the snarky responses. If you're going to steal my money (seed teams by record) let's just get rid of banks (divisions). Banks aren't broken so stop trying to fix them.

Winning a division should get you a playoff ticket....and that's about it. Some team that wins a terrible division with an 8-8 record hosting a team that wins 12 games? That doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Nosferatu]

And you guys think seeding the playoff teams by W-L record is fucked up.

Seeding by W/L is fine, of the four division winners in each conference 1v4 & 2v3

 

[PhilSimms11]

Winning a division should get you a playoff ticket....and that's about it. Some team that wins a terrible division with an 8-8 record hosting a team that wins 12 games? That doesn't make sense to me.

Careful. You'll raise the ire of the T-GRODs (Then Get Rid Of Divisions). If a team is 9-7 or 8-8 and a division winner it should have no bitch about traveling in the playoffs. It should be grateful it's in the playoffs with such a mediocre record. Case closed. This is why I tip my hat to the NBA. Do people realize the Orlando Magic (42-40) was a 7-seed (out of 8) in this year's playoffs? THEY WON THEIR DIVISION. Did anybody cry about it?

 

[PhilSimms11]

Seeding by W/L is fine, of the four division winners in each conference 1v4 & 2v3

(1)KC (12-4) vs (4)BAL (10-6)
(2)NE (11-5) vs (3)HOU (11-5)

LAC (12-4) and IND (10-6) left out.

(1)NO (13-3) vs (4)DAL (10-6)
(2)LAR (13-3) vs (3)CHI (12-4)

SEA (10-6) and PHI (9-7) left out.
Doesn't work for me. That's how MLB did it until 1994. In 1993, SF went 103-59 (2nd best record in MLB) and missed the playoffs. Holy shit, that's brutal. If they had a 4-team playoff in each league that season and seeded them by record:

AL
(1)*TOR (95-67) vs (4)TEX (86-76)
(2)*CHW (94-68) vs (3)NYY (88-74)

NL
(1)*ATL (104-58) vs (4)MTL (94-68)
(2)SF (103-59) vs (3)*PHI (97-65)
*division winner

 

[rmilia1]

Congratulations you can now take the Dunce cap off of Phil and wear it yourself.

I dont expect people to agree . People grow accustomed to how things are ( even if they don't make sense )

If you'd never heard of pro sports and someone said should A. The best teams make the postseason or B. Should we randomly divide teams into conferences and award postseason bids even if a team from one conference has a worse record than a team from the other . You ( and everyone ) would say A.

There's no benefit to conferences . Especially after you've already separated teams once .

If you disagree go ahead and offer w few advantages of conferences that are more important than having the better teams make the playoffs