Series Thread: ECF: 2) Boston Celtics vs 8) Miami Heat

[The Q]

Yeah I think both crews been solid this series. My only beef was the amount of offensive fouls I thought they missed in game 1 but overall they been solid

By this point you should be down to a select few crews. The best of the best

 

[thunderc]

Yeah that speaks to their chances if they make the finals. The Heat are certainly favored to beat the Celtics now.

 

[LogicMan]

Yeah that speaks to their chances if they make the finals. The Heat are certainly favored to beat the Celtics now.

Unbeatable odds at this point and ESPN wants to say the Celts should win ? Just stupid thinking. Heat are on a run

 

[tlance]

Unbeatable odds at this point and ESPN wants to say the Celts should win ? Just stupid thinking. Heat are on a run

Of course Miami is the favorite at this point.

But Boston was heavy favorites going into the series for a reason. They are the deeper team and have more ways to win games than the Heat do.

7% of teams win after going down 2-0, but that number is basically irrelevant to this situation.

Most of the teams who go down 0-2 weren’t heavy favorites.

If Boston wins game 3, this still has potential to be a long series. And even from an 0-2 hole, I would put the Celtics odds at closer to 30% to win the series.

 

[Gman]

This is the best version of a Tatum/Brown-led Celtics team that has been put together... but it still has all the same problems that have plagued this version of the Celtics. Even with Tatum and Brown being smack in the middle of their prime years... (they're not kids anymore)... even with a bevy of veterans surrounding them...

• Boston can't consistently beat a zone defense
• Boston can't consistently execute in the clutch

I have to say, though... Jimmy Butler is a marvel. I can't help but admire him even as he's killing my team. The combination of confidence, competitiveness, leadership and joy that he brings to the basketball court is amazing.

Anywho... unless the Celtics are winning by 20+ points with any less than 5 minutes to go in a game, I wouldn't bet money on them earning the W.

 

[LogicMan]

This is the best version of a Tatum/Brown-led Celtics team that has been put together... but it still has all the same problems that have plagued this version of the Celtics. Even with Tatum and Brown being smack in the middle of their prime years... (they're not kids anymore)... even with a bevy of veterans surrounding them...

• Boston can't consistently beat a zone defense
• Boston can't consistently execute in the clutch

I have to say, though... Jimmy Butler is a marvel. I can't help but admire him even as he's killing my team. The combination of confidence, competitiveness, leadership and joy that he brings to the basketball court is amazing.

Anywho... unless the Celtics are winning by 20+ points with any less than 5 minutes to go in a game, I wouldn't bet money on them earning the W.

Could not say it better GMan

 

[thunderc]

Of course Miami is the favorite at this point.

But Boston was heavy favorites going into the series for a reason. They are the deeper team and have more ways to win games than the Heat do.

7% of teams win after going down 2-0, but that number is basically irrelevant to this situation.

Most of the teams who go down 0-2 weren’t heavy favorites.

If Boston wins game 3, this still has potential to be a long series. And even from an 0-2 hole, I would put the Celtics odds at closer to 30% to win the series.

Another irrelevance with that 7 percent number is the fact that Boston lost 2 at home. I seriously doubt anyone has ever overcame the 0-2 after losing the first 2 at home. The real number is likely 0.

 

[DJ]

Man, that is so disrespectful!

They are basically saying the only reason the Heat are in these games is because of super hot shooting.

Can’t believe the nerve of these guys!

LOL.

 

[tlance]

Another irrelevance with that 7 percent number is the fact that Boston lost 2 at home. I seriously doubt anyone has ever overcame the 0-2 after losing the first 2 at home. The real number is likely 0.

Well, you would be wrong.

27 teams (out of 312) have come back from 0-2.

That is 8.7%

5 of the 27 had home court advantage. Almost 20% of the teams to do it.

The Clippers did it in 2021 and the Celtics did it in 2017 with a few key players still on the roster today.

It is unlikely for a heavy favorite to lose the first 2 at home. Almost never happens.

But when they do?

They are also more likely to come back.

And the numbers seem to bear that out.

 

[thunderc]

Well, you would be wrong.

27 teams (out of 312) have come back from 0-2.

That is 8.7%

5 of the 27 had home court advantage. Almost 20% of the teams to do it.

The Clippers did it in 2021 and the Celtics did it in 2017 with a few key players still on the roster today.

So if true the real number is 1.6 percent. Got it.

 

[Pastafazul]

Well, you would be wrong.

27 teams (out of 312) have come back from 0-2.

That is 8.7%

5 of the 27 had home court advantage. Almost 20% of the teams to do it.

The Clippers did it in 2021 and the Celtics did it in 2017 with a few key players still on the roster today.

Yes he is , just ask the jersey devils after losing 1st 2 at home and winning series vs rangers 2 weeks ago.

Ohh wait , I’m wrong , hockey and basketball completely different , do not share the same blueprint for winning in any way .

Wtf is wrong with me…. Back to my lane

 

[tlance]

Yes he is , just ask the jersey devils after losing 1st 2 at home and winning series vs rangers 2 weeks ago.

Ohh wait , I’m wrong , hockey and basketball completely different , do not share the same blueprint for winning in any way .

Wtf is wrong with me…. Back to my lane

Please do.

They are completely different.

 

[tlance]

So if true the real number is 1.6 percent. Got it.

Wrong again.

Because the vast majority of the 312 teams to go down 0-2 were not the teams with home court advantage.

So way bigger than 1.6%

 

[tlance]

So if true the real number is 1.6 percent. Got it.

On top of that, three of the Celtics starters were on a team that did it.

And Jimmy Butler was the best player on the team they beat.

 

[bksballer89]

Another irrelevance with that 7 percent number is the fact that Boston lost 2 at home. I seriously doubt anyone has ever overcame the 0-2 after losing the first 2 at home. The real number is likely 0.

Dallas did it once and the rockets did it in one of those title years. Kenny Smith always bring it up when a team loses the first 2 at home. Those are the only 2x i remember

 

[thunderc]

Wrong again.

Because the vast majority of the 312 teams to go down 0-2 were not the teams with home court advantage.

So way bigger than 1.6%

No, based on your numbers, which aren’t correct anyway but we will go with them. 5/312 is 1.6 percent like I said.

 

[bksballer89]

Of course Miami is the favorite at this point.

But Boston was heavy favorites going into the series for a reason. They are the deeper team and have more ways to win games than the Heat do.

7% of teams win after going down 2-0, but that number is basically irrelevant to this situation.

Most of the teams who go down 0-2 weren’t heavy favorites.

If Boston wins game 3, this still has potential to be a long series. And even from an 0-2 hole, I would put the Celtics odds at closer to 30% to win the series.

Boston shouldn't have been heavy favorites going into this series

 

[trojanfan12]

Yep....but only $10.

In that case....your bet too. lol

 

[thunderc]

Boston shouldn't have been heavy favorites going into this series

I have no problem with Boston being heavy favorites going in, at least the books make adjustments based on betting and what happens.

 

[trojanfan12]

ESPN is about making money.

Lakers vs Celtics for #18 is ratings gold.

Too bad the Heat and Nugz don’t give a shit.

Those selfish bastards.